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My experiences with Aliens?
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originally posted by: Topcraft
This was also in the 90s where I was a dole bludging pot head metal head,
This might have something to do with it.
Drug induced hallucinations I’ve ruled that out, as my mum and sister experienced similar, the only drug my mum takes is a gin and tonic every night.
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: zofodraz
Very interesting Zofo. Assuming that your story is a true remembrance, from reading it through it seems to me that this all happened over twenty years ago, right? Well, question one is what do you make of it all, do you have any grand speculations on the ''why'' of it all, other than ''look what happened to me''?
From accounts that I have read over the years, most of us with somewhat similar ''off the chart'' experiences such as you recount had them to a much lesser degree. Not nearly as profound, not nearly as constant, not nearly in such a wide variety of types.
Question two is has this continued? Likely not I suppose as you would have included any such experiences in the last twenty years in your testimony. So, if they did stop, why do you think that is.
And again from the wild intensity question three. You certainly must recognize that your experiences vastly out do the general plethora of recounts of other peoples experiences so how do you understand this.
I ask these question because to me, it's not that any of these things happen to us it's the ''why''. Why you why the extreme intensity, why not everyone else and why did it, if it did, stop?
Your recount was entertaining but not if it was nothing more than a sci/fi horror writer pushing as much into a script for a movie as possible. I'd say it was rather average crap kind of like that death metal music cramming in as much loud noise and screaming as possible to make it even better. But as real life experiences it's not average at all. Even among the not average at all, your reported experiences are extreme.
So to give you more attention than just oh look Zofo had some wild stuff happen to him, I would like to understand the greater scope of your cosmic comprehension of reality extrapolated by these experiences. That is if they are real and you are not just putting us on here.
First question, no clue they are very cryptic. I can only speculate. The only thing solid they told me they are aliens, thats it. My understanding people have some sort of experience, but then add a creative ‘phatic statement’ touch to the story, sometimes to the point of extreme stupidity. One story from a Irishman he was abducted by aliens then warned him about “the banks”, or humans are bad to the planet, bad nukes or whatever.
I have no clue as to why, it’s just what I experienced.
originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: zofodraz
Umm, Any strange markings on your body, black dots, scoop marks, strange readings from blood test from doctor.. ?
The house your family live or lived in when this happened, any electrical failures, missing time, dead spots in garden ?
Had any visits from military or government people asking strange questions ?
Do you see a specific number or word often, do you wear glasses ?
Never noticed strange markings, all blood tests I’ve had in the past results normal, the only electrical failure was when it first happened my bedside light was blown, I may have had missing time once I drove to the border, no dead spots in the garden, no one has approached me out of the blue asking me strange questions. No numbers or words and I don’t wear glasses.
a reply to: zofodraz
When you felt something "like a pen" stabbed into the side of your head, was it on your left side, or your right side?
And did you get any strange/glowing visuals when you felt it? If so, of what?
The reason I ask, is because you are describing a particular process which can take place within rites of initiation to what many refer to as “the mysteries”
It is sometimes referred to as “pole shift”
It is sometimes referred to as “seeding”
It also has a link, in veil terms, to what many would call a “Christ” process, of descent and re-ascent
What it is, basically; is your conscious mind being polarised against the collective consciousness, at a planetary level
This creates a super-conscious connection within your mind, that you did not have before
Think of it like being turned inside-out, compared to everyone else, whilst still being connected to the same world as they are
This is why your friend did not seem interested, or remember what was happening
Because it was only possible for him to experience it through being “fluidly” connected with you, within your experience
Outside of this. It never happened for him
You can pull people back into your polarised memory, if you try hard enough. But you should avoid doing this, especially if they are rejecting the memory. It generally only causes them, or you pain. Because you mess with their alignment, which then needs be fixed
You achieve nothing doing it, so there is little point
While you are in this phase-to-out-of-phase state, you are also opened to para-dimensional influence
This is most commonly done as a type of catharsis. To strip people of things such as negative emotions and repressed memories
But it can also be used a gateway to self-actualisation, through what many refer to as “Illumination”
Understanding which can come from being guided by para-dimensional entities, or self-aligned by/through will and conscious intention
But the things you were experiencing, are not what you think
The “greys” are not what you think
You are identifying them and your experiences within veil terms. The truth is much deeper and less specific than this
Can I ask, why did you decide that they were aliens?
You cannot possibly know who, or what, they are … So why would you decide in your own mind that they are alien?
The reason I ask, is because this is a trap
When people are opened up and cast in such as way as what you are describing, they are offered the opportunity to answer their own question
Deterministic will, within such experiences, means greater understanding need not be given
Meaning, if you were to decide they were Angels and Demons, then that is what they would be for you. Nothing more. Nothing less
And you would receive nothing more than what you have predetermined
Likewise, if you were to decide that they were Aliens, then that is what they would be for you. Nothing more. Nothing less
The trap within deterministic will, is that you only see, what you want to see. So you are only offered what you want
Because this is deemed to be all that you need
If, through this, catharsis can be carried out so that you find balance? Then there is no reason for them to give you any more, help you understand anything more, or interact with you on any type of deeper level
Much like your interaction with your friend, who is not aligned correctly to share your memories and understanding of things, it can actually be harmful for them to try give you any more than what you seek
Or what you have determined to be “how things are”
I assure you …
They are not Aliens
They are not God. Nor Angels …
But, they are all of these things. To those who need them to be
“I AM, WHAT I AM”
In the same way, they will be, as they need be
You may say to yourself, that they need be something that can be related to our physical world and existence
And you would be right …
But you cannot know who, what, how, or anything else to do with them. At least while you are in this world …
So why would you assume to know?
Even if they taught you the truth about exactly what they were, and where they come from? You could not possibly know it to be true
You could only ever “believe” it to be so
This determination, becomes a trap for self, within your own mind
Understanding this, is the essence of what people often refer to as “Ego Death”
Though, the modern interpretations of what ego death is, by people who have never been initiated or been through this process, are vastly different
It is about learning to “not care”, what they are
Possibility, without determination
This is what “belief” is actually supposed to be
Think of it like this
If “they”, within this process, can offer you any type of understanding or knowledge in this world, but such teachings can only be limited to your interpretation of reality and what “they” are?
Then you need accept all possibilities of what “could” be, without having any determined will that you could possibly know the answer
Within such, they are free to be what they REALLY are
And all possibilities in this world, are free to be what they can be
You need to stop thinking about things in terms like “humans, Gods, Angels, Aliens” etc …
It takes a while to let go of the veil perceptions …
But when you do, you will start to align with something greater
Instead of deciding “what” is happening to you, and by such, where you are going … You allow the waters to carry you where they are being poured
Follow the water-barer, without expectation of regard, beyond a conscious awareness of being one
We are all within the same patterns
There is no distinction between them and us
We are them
They are us
When you felt something "like a pen" stabbed into the side of your head, was it on your left side, or your right side?
And did you get any strange/glowing visuals when you felt it? If so, of what?
The reason I ask, is because you are describing a particular process which can take place within rites of initiation to what many refer to as “the mysteries”
It is sometimes referred to as “pole shift”
It is sometimes referred to as “seeding”
It also has a link, in veil terms, to what many would call a “Christ” process, of descent and re-ascent
What it is, basically; is your conscious mind being polarised against the collective consciousness, at a planetary level
This creates a super-conscious connection within your mind, that you did not have before
Think of it like being turned inside-out, compared to everyone else, whilst still being connected to the same world as they are
This is why your friend did not seem interested, or remember what was happening
Because it was only possible for him to experience it through being “fluidly” connected with you, within your experience
Outside of this. It never happened for him
You can pull people back into your polarised memory, if you try hard enough. But you should avoid doing this, especially if they are rejecting the memory. It generally only causes them, or you pain. Because you mess with their alignment, which then needs be fixed
You achieve nothing doing it, so there is little point
While you are in this phase-to-out-of-phase state, you are also opened to para-dimensional influence
This is most commonly done as a type of catharsis. To strip people of things such as negative emotions and repressed memories
But it can also be used a gateway to self-actualisation, through what many refer to as “Illumination”
Understanding which can come from being guided by para-dimensional entities, or self-aligned by/through will and conscious intention
But the things you were experiencing, are not what you think
The “greys” are not what you think
You are identifying them and your experiences within veil terms. The truth is much deeper and less specific than this
Can I ask, why did you decide that they were aliens?
You cannot possibly know who, or what, they are … So why would you decide in your own mind that they are alien?
The reason I ask, is because this is a trap
When people are opened up and cast in such as way as what you are describing, they are offered the opportunity to answer their own question
Deterministic will, within such experiences, means greater understanding need not be given
Meaning, if you were to decide they were Angels and Demons, then that is what they would be for you. Nothing more. Nothing less
And you would receive nothing more than what you have predetermined
Likewise, if you were to decide that they were Aliens, then that is what they would be for you. Nothing more. Nothing less
The trap within deterministic will, is that you only see, what you want to see. So you are only offered what you want
Because this is deemed to be all that you need
If, through this, catharsis can be carried out so that you find balance? Then there is no reason for them to give you any more, help you understand anything more, or interact with you on any type of deeper level
Much like your interaction with your friend, who is not aligned correctly to share your memories and understanding of things, it can actually be harmful for them to try give you any more than what you seek
Or what you have determined to be “how things are”
I assure you …
They are not Aliens
They are not God. Nor Angels …
But, they are all of these things. To those who need them to be
“I AM, WHAT I AM”
In the same way, they will be, as they need be
You may say to yourself, that they need be something that can be related to our physical world and existence
And you would be right …
But you cannot know who, what, how, or anything else to do with them. At least while you are in this world …
So why would you assume to know?
Even if they taught you the truth about exactly what they were, and where they come from? You could not possibly know it to be true
You could only ever “believe” it to be so
This determination, becomes a trap for self, within your own mind
Understanding this, is the essence of what people often refer to as “Ego Death”
Though, the modern interpretations of what ego death is, by people who have never been initiated or been through this process, are vastly different
It is about learning to “not care”, what they are
Possibility, without determination
This is what “belief” is actually supposed to be
Think of it like this
If “they”, within this process, can offer you any type of understanding or knowledge in this world, but such teachings can only be limited to your interpretation of reality and what “they” are?
Then you need accept all possibilities of what “could” be, without having any determined will that you could possibly know the answer
Within such, they are free to be what they REALLY are
And all possibilities in this world, are free to be what they can be
You need to stop thinking about things in terms like “humans, Gods, Angels, Aliens” etc …
It takes a while to let go of the veil perceptions …
But when you do, you will start to align with something greater
Instead of deciding “what” is happening to you, and by such, where you are going … You allow the waters to carry you where they are being poured
Follow the water-barer, without expectation of regard, beyond a conscious awareness of being one
We are all within the same patterns
There is no distinction between them and us
We are them
They are us
edit on 27 6 22 by Compendium because: Spacing
I’ve had many dreams where I encountered and interacted with multiple alien species in my dreams. Usually there is mutual respect. I had one dream
involving gray aliens. They captured my astral form on board a very large spaceship. Their paralyzing devices did not work on me and they ticked me
off. I proceeded to attempt to take over. I neutralized many of them. I telepathically controlled several of their minds reading their thoughts
which to my enjoyment terrorized them even more. I used to enjoy killing aliens on their spaceship in a pc game. It was fun but this dream seemed so
real. The grays had a hive type of collective. They had navigators that used some telepathy in their spaceship control system. I kept the
navigators alive. All others were prey. I could control a few of their minds but there were hundreds or thousands on board multiple levels of the
spaceship I was on.
The part I enjoyed was I was gaining control in bits and pieces. I had too much fun chasing a couple terrified grays down one corridor and another tricked me into walking past an emergency beam out device. I woke up in bed with a message they would never abduct me again. I sent a message back threatening their home star system. I could read their minds and get information hopping into minds on different ships if I wanted but wasn’t good enough to decipher their language from a brief encounter. Most other alien species I dreamed about were much friendlier.
One dream actually multiple dreams with a reptilian almost humanoid alien was purely talk with an exchange of some mental images via telepathy. It was a scientist about 37,000 light years away. I asked too many questions and I would have had to study our highest levels of physics and electrical engineering to get to within 6 more levels of understanding I would need to build a sub space instant communication device I asked about. These dreams were too much work when I’m supposed to be resting in a dream. I asked him to go contact another human with more advanced knowledge than me.
In another set of dreams, the weirdest alien mind I’ve dreamed about was not even necessarily from our time. It was a super advanced AI contacting me telepathically through a temporal or time disturbance. Why contact me? No idea. I don’t remember asking. It has made me wonder if we live in a simulation reality and the AI finds it amusing to make things glitch around me on occasion or do something weird. Maybe a higher power has been sending me messages in my dreams.
In another dream I was told that aliens communicate via telepathic networks across the galaxy and a few humans may unknowingly serve as hubs. I may have temporarily been a hub but information was leaking out into my conscious mind so I believe that stopped information transfer using me unknowingly. Strange dream. Thousands of intelligent civilizations in our galaxy using something like a telepathic Internet and many minds as conduits in different star systems.
If I hadn’t had a few different paranormal encounters, I might think I just have a really good imagination but the paranormal makes me realize there is something unknown about our world most don’t see.
I’ve also had dreams where I encountered creatures in different states of existence outside of our regular time and space but I didn’t consider them aliens since they were in their own world. I invaded their existence.
The most troubling thought remaining from those thoughts is the possibility of some type of specter insects and specter spiders and creatures that can live amongst us but we never see in our light but occasionally I can feel them on my legs or occasionally touching me. They live in our houses and all around. Most never have a clue.
The part I enjoyed was I was gaining control in bits and pieces. I had too much fun chasing a couple terrified grays down one corridor and another tricked me into walking past an emergency beam out device. I woke up in bed with a message they would never abduct me again. I sent a message back threatening their home star system. I could read their minds and get information hopping into minds on different ships if I wanted but wasn’t good enough to decipher their language from a brief encounter. Most other alien species I dreamed about were much friendlier.
One dream actually multiple dreams with a reptilian almost humanoid alien was purely talk with an exchange of some mental images via telepathy. It was a scientist about 37,000 light years away. I asked too many questions and I would have had to study our highest levels of physics and electrical engineering to get to within 6 more levels of understanding I would need to build a sub space instant communication device I asked about. These dreams were too much work when I’m supposed to be resting in a dream. I asked him to go contact another human with more advanced knowledge than me.
In another set of dreams, the weirdest alien mind I’ve dreamed about was not even necessarily from our time. It was a super advanced AI contacting me telepathically through a temporal or time disturbance. Why contact me? No idea. I don’t remember asking. It has made me wonder if we live in a simulation reality and the AI finds it amusing to make things glitch around me on occasion or do something weird. Maybe a higher power has been sending me messages in my dreams.
In another dream I was told that aliens communicate via telepathic networks across the galaxy and a few humans may unknowingly serve as hubs. I may have temporarily been a hub but information was leaking out into my conscious mind so I believe that stopped information transfer using me unknowingly. Strange dream. Thousands of intelligent civilizations in our galaxy using something like a telepathic Internet and many minds as conduits in different star systems.
If I hadn’t had a few different paranormal encounters, I might think I just have a really good imagination but the paranormal makes me realize there is something unknown about our world most don’t see.
I’ve also had dreams where I encountered creatures in different states of existence outside of our regular time and space but I didn’t consider them aliens since they were in their own world. I invaded their existence.
The most troubling thought remaining from those thoughts is the possibility of some type of specter insects and specter spiders and creatures that can live amongst us but we never see in our light but occasionally I can feel them on my legs or occasionally touching me. They live in our houses and all around. Most never have a clue.
originally posted by: Compendium
a reply to: zofodraz
When you felt something "like a pen" stabbed into the side of your head, was it on your left side, or your right side?
And did you get any strange/glowing visuals when you felt it? If so, of what?
The reason I ask, is because you are describing a particular process which can take place within rites of initiation to what many refer to as “the mysteries”
It is sometimes referred to as “pole shift”
It is sometimes referred to as “seeding”
It also has a link, in veil terms, to what many would call a “Christ” process, of descent and re-ascent
What it is, basically; is your conscious mind being polarised against the collective consciousness, at a planetary level
This creates a super-conscious connection within your mind, that you did not have before
Think of it like being turned inside-out, compared to everyone else, whilst still being connected to the same world as they are
This is why your friend did not seem interested, or remember what was happening
Because it was only possible for him to experience it through being “fluidly” connected with you, within your experience
Outside of this. It never happened for him
You can pull people back into your polarised memory, if you try hard enough. But you should avoid doing this, especially if they are rejecting the memory. It generally only causes them, or you pain. Because you mess with their alignment, which then needs be fixed
You achieve nothing doing it, so there is little point
While you are in this phase-to-out-of-phase state, you are also opened to para-dimensional influence
This is most commonly done as a type of catharsis. To strip people of things such as negative emotions and repressed memories
But it can also be used a gateway to self-actualisation, through what many refer to as “Illumination”
Understanding which can come from being guided by para-dimensional entities, or self-aligned by/through will and conscious intention
But the things you were experiencing, are not what you think
The “greys” are not what you think
You are identifying them and your experiences within veil terms. The truth is much deeper and less specific than this
Can I ask, why did you decide that they were aliens?
You cannot possibly know who, or what, they are … So why would you decide in your own mind that they are alien?
The reason I ask, is because this is a trap
When people are opened up and cast in such as way as what you are describing, they are offered the opportunity to answer their own question
Deterministic will, within such experiences, means greater understanding need not be given
Meaning, if you were to decide they were Angels and Demons, then that is what they would be for you. Nothing more. Nothing less
And you would receive nothing more than what you have predetermined
Likewise, if you were to decide that they were Aliens, then that is what they would be for you. Nothing more. Nothing less
The trap within deterministic will, is that you only see, what you want to see. So you are only offered what you want
Because this is deemed to be all that you need
If, through this, catharsis can be carried out so that you find balance? Then there is no reason for them to give you any more, help you understand anything more, or interact with you on any type of deeper level
Much like your interaction with your friend, who is not aligned correctly to share your memories and understanding of things, it can actually be harmful for them to try give you any more than what you seek
Or what you have determined to be “how things are”
I assure you …
They are not Aliens
They are not God. Nor Angels …
But, they are all of these things. To those who need them to be
“I AM, WHAT I AM”
In the same way, they will be, as they need be
You may say to yourself, that they need be something that can be related to our physical world and existence
And you would be right …
But you cannot know who, what, how, or anything else to do with them. At least while you are in this world …
So why would you assume to know?
Even if they taught you the truth about exactly what they were, and where they come from? You could not possibly know it to be true
You could only ever “believe” it to be so
This determination, becomes a trap for self, within your own mind
Understanding this, is the essence of what people often refer to as “Ego Death”
Though, the modern interpretations of what ego death is, by people who have never been initiated or been through this process, are vastly different
It is about learning to “not care”, what they are
Possibility, without determination
This is what “belief” is actually supposed to be
Think of it like this
If “they”, within this process, can offer you any type of understanding or knowledge in this world, but such teachings can only be limited to your interpretation of reality and what “they” are?
Then you need accept all possibilities of what “could” be, without having any determined will that you could possibly know the answer
Within such, they are free to be what they REALLY are
And all possibilities in this world, are free to be what they can be
You need to stop thinking about things in terms like “humans, Gods, Angels, Aliens” etc …
It takes a while to let go of the veil perceptions …
But when you do, you will start to align with something greater
Instead of deciding “what” is happening to you, and by such, where you are going … You allow the waters to carry you where they are being poured
Follow the water-barer, without expectation of regard, beyond a conscious awareness of being one
We are all within the same patterns
There is no distinction between them and us
We are them
They are us
I was laying on my left side, the sensation was on the right. No visuals.
They told me they are aliens in a strange way, thats it. Of course I don’t 100% believe to be true due to the cryptic nature, but do lean towards they are just ETs.
After telling my story to people, some say angels demons or ghosts, I think no one really knows. I told a Hare Krishna monk, his view on ‘greys’ that they are demons!
It’s difficult to interpret what’s going on everyone has a different answer, while I don’t have any answers.
Hey you could be spot on, again myself dunno.
originally posted by: orionthehunter
I’ve had many dreams where I encountered and interacted with multiple alien species in my dreams. Usually there is mutual respect. I had one dream involving gray aliens. They captured my astral form on board a very large spaceship. Their paralyzing devices did not work on me and they ticked me off. I proceeded to attempt to take over. I neutralized many of them. I telepathically controlled several of their minds reading their thoughts which to my enjoyment terrorized them even more. I used to enjoy killing aliens on their spaceship in a pc game. It was fun but this dream seemed so real. The grays had a hive type of collective. They had navigators that used some telepathy in their spaceship control system. I kept the navigators alive. All others were prey. I could control a few of their minds but there were hundreds or thousands on board multiple levels of the spaceship I was on.
The part I enjoyed was I was gaining control in bits and pieces. I had too much fun chasing a couple terrified grays down one corridor and another tricked me into walking past an emergency beam out device. I woke up in bed with a message they would never abduct me again. I sent a message back threatening their home star system. I could read their minds and get information hopping into minds on different ships if I wanted but wasn’t good enough to decipher their language from a brief encounter. Most other alien species I dreamed about were much friendlier.
One dream actually multiple dreams with a reptilian almost humanoid alien was purely talk with an exchange of some mental images via telepathy. It was a scientist about 37,000 light years away. I asked too many questions and I would have had to study our highest levels of physics and electrical engineering to get to within 6 more levels of understanding I would need to build a sub space instant communication device I asked about. These dreams were too much work when I’m supposed to be resting in a dream. I asked him to go contact another human with more advanced knowledge than me.
In another set of dreams, the weirdest alien mind I’ve dreamed about was not even necessarily from our time. It was a super advanced AI contacting me telepathically through a temporal or time disturbance. Why contact me? No idea. I don’t remember asking. It has made me wonder if we live in a simulation reality and the AI finds it amusing to make things glitch around me on occasion or do something weird. Maybe a higher power has been sending me messages in my dreams.
In another dream I was told that aliens communicate via telepathic networks across the galaxy and a few humans may unknowingly serve as hubs. I may have temporarily been a hub but information was leaking out into my conscious mind so I believe that stopped information transfer using me unknowingly. Strange dream. Thousands of intelligent civilizations in our galaxy using something like a telepathic Internet and many minds as conduits in different star systems.
If I hadn’t had a few different paranormal encounters, I might think I just have a really good imagination but the paranormal makes me realize there is something unknown about our world most don’t see.
I’ve also had dreams where I encountered creatures in different states of existence outside of our regular time and space but I didn’t consider them aliens since they were in their own world. I invaded their existence.
The most troubling thought remaining from those thoughts is the possibility of some type of specter insects and specter spiders and creatures that can live amongst us but we never see in our light but occasionally I can feel them on my legs or occasionally touching me. They live in our houses and all around. Most never have a clue.
Interesting, I don’t know how to respond to your dreams or encounters. Very confusing
a reply to: zofodraz
Yeah, but they will answer yes to being whatever you believe them most likely to be
Their answer literally feeds off the question within your own mind
Did you ever get the sense that they were simply telling you what you wanted to hear? Or maybe, that the answer they gave you seemed too convenient?
This is because the answer is literally calculated off what you would most likely believe
This is why many people refer to them as "the deceivers" (the Archons)
But the reality is, that they are simply gatekeepers
I have been through the mysteries, and have met almost every type of entity you could name. Including the "greys"
The "Alien identity" is part of the first stages of understanding what self is, as it relates to creation and the Universe
You are supposed to move past this after a few years, similar to how you say you started to barely care that something strange was happening to you
You are supposed to develop a similar understanding towards "identity" when it comes to those you are interacting with
The true lesson, is towards understanding the magnitude of your own potential
Think of it like this:
When you see them as God or Alien, you are defining them in terms of relative authority within their identity. To something greater than yourself, or your ability to know in this world
Such perspective on identity is an illusion of limiting belief
Why does this matter?
Because seeing them, or interacting with them in such a way, makes it impossible for you to ever learn to understand what it is they actually are
So lets say, you think they are from another planet ...
But in reality, the planets are not what you think. And they do not work the way you think. You just think they do, because of where you exist linearly, next to a centre of gravity, in comparison to them?
How could they possibly explain they are not from another planet, if you do not even truly understand what a planet is?
What if their planet and Earth were the same planet? And they exist within a phase spectrum?
How would you go explaining that to someone who only sees and understands a linear construct? Who thought they were extra-terrestrials?
How could you even begin to explain it to them? If they had never experienced important concepts outside of their own world and physics? If they had no basis to understand concepts of complex non-linear dynamics?
How could you even begin to teach them, or explain anything, so that they could understand it, when all they want to know is "what" or "who" you are?
Because you cannot explain "who" or "what" you are, without also explaining entirely new and foreign concepts for things such as physics and the universe. That nobody on their Earth understands yet
You can't expect a baby to chew steak
If they ever have a hope in understanding who or what you are ...
You need them to first forget everything they think they know
Which, is hard to do, when they keep asking if you are an alien, or a God
---
One thing I will mention, in veil terms about the experiences you detailed ...
Is that the form of the invisible entities you experienced "holding you" at night within the electrical potential, was/is/are not what is referred to as the greys
Those entities, when they appear fully-formed, are fully humanoid in every way, except they have cone-shaped heads
Also, when they are around, they create disturbances in the atmosphere, which can be heard
It can sound like something scampering around in the darkness
But it is actually a type of electrical rippling. A ripping sound in the atmosphere, similar to paper ripping, but electrical in nature
They also cause visual disturbances, that looks like electrical current moving across the surface of the ocean at night
They are also often associated with owls, bats and other electro-sensitive birds and animals. Because animals such as these are drawn by curiousity to disturbances they see in the atmosphere. And so, people have mistaken them as being part of the phenomena, when in reality they are just checking out what is going on, because it is the most interesting thing happening in their otherwise boring night
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Yeah, but they will answer yes to being whatever you believe them most likely to be
Their answer literally feeds off the question within your own mind
Did you ever get the sense that they were simply telling you what you wanted to hear? Or maybe, that the answer they gave you seemed too convenient?
This is because the answer is literally calculated off what you would most likely believe
This is why many people refer to them as "the deceivers" (the Archons)
But the reality is, that they are simply gatekeepers
I have been through the mysteries, and have met almost every type of entity you could name. Including the "greys"
The "Alien identity" is part of the first stages of understanding what self is, as it relates to creation and the Universe
You are supposed to move past this after a few years, similar to how you say you started to barely care that something strange was happening to you
You are supposed to develop a similar understanding towards "identity" when it comes to those you are interacting with
The true lesson, is towards understanding the magnitude of your own potential
Think of it like this:
When you see them as God or Alien, you are defining them in terms of relative authority within their identity. To something greater than yourself, or your ability to know in this world
Such perspective on identity is an illusion of limiting belief
Why does this matter?
Because seeing them, or interacting with them in such a way, makes it impossible for you to ever learn to understand what it is they actually are
So lets say, you think they are from another planet ...
But in reality, the planets are not what you think. And they do not work the way you think. You just think they do, because of where you exist linearly, next to a centre of gravity, in comparison to them?
How could they possibly explain they are not from another planet, if you do not even truly understand what a planet is?
What if their planet and Earth were the same planet? And they exist within a phase spectrum?
How would you go explaining that to someone who only sees and understands a linear construct? Who thought they were extra-terrestrials?
How could you even begin to explain it to them? If they had never experienced important concepts outside of their own world and physics? If they had no basis to understand concepts of complex non-linear dynamics?
How could you even begin to teach them, or explain anything, so that they could understand it, when all they want to know is "what" or "who" you are?
Because you cannot explain "who" or "what" you are, without also explaining entirely new and foreign concepts for things such as physics and the universe. That nobody on their Earth understands yet
You can't expect a baby to chew steak
If they ever have a hope in understanding who or what you are ...
You need them to first forget everything they think they know
Which, is hard to do, when they keep asking if you are an alien, or a God
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One thing I will mention, in veil terms about the experiences you detailed ...
Is that the form of the invisible entities you experienced "holding you" at night within the electrical potential, was/is/are not what is referred to as the greys
Those entities, when they appear fully-formed, are fully humanoid in every way, except they have cone-shaped heads
Also, when they are around, they create disturbances in the atmosphere, which can be heard
It can sound like something scampering around in the darkness
But it is actually a type of electrical rippling. A ripping sound in the atmosphere, similar to paper ripping, but electrical in nature
They also cause visual disturbances, that looks like electrical current moving across the surface of the ocean at night
They are also often associated with owls, bats and other electro-sensitive birds and animals. Because animals such as these are drawn by curiousity to disturbances they see in the atmosphere. And so, people have mistaken them as being part of the phenomena, when in reality they are just checking out what is going on, because it is the most interesting thing happening in their otherwise boring night
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edit on 27 6 22 by Compendium because: Added something
a reply to: Compendium
'day Compendium, Interesting what you wrote about these critters:
I had something similar rumaging through a junk box in my bedroom one night. Watched it for a while.
I'd be interested in hearing about any more insights you may have.
'day Compendium, Interesting what you wrote about these critters:
Those entities, when they appear fully-formed, are fully humanoid in every way, except they have cone-shaped heads
Also, when they are around, they create disturbances in the atmosphere, which can be heard
It can sound like something scampering around in the darkness
But it is actually a type of electrical rippling. A ripping sound in the atmosphere, similar to paper ripping, but electrical in nature
They also cause visual disturbances, that looks like electrical current moving across the surface of the ocean at night
They are also often associated with owls, bats and other electro-sensitive birds and animals. Because animals such as these are drawn by curiousity to disturbances they see in the atmosphere. And so, people have mistaken them as being part of the phenomena, when in reality they are just checking out what is going on, because it is the most interesting thing happening in their otherwise boring night
I had something similar rumaging through a junk box in my bedroom one night. Watched it for a while.
I'd be interested in hearing about any more insights you may have.
Thanks for the interesting info, the problem is the archons hypothesis, leaves out key information, plus like myself saying so doesn’t make it so.
I never research or look to these websites, as I learned early on it interferes with my learning, My KNOWING. '
However, Since I stumbled onto this reply to Zofro. I WILL stay for a moment. If only to dig a little deeper into
the footsteps of Compendium.
The problem, that I have found is that there are those who know nothing. Knowing not that they know nothing they portend to know everything or shield themselves from the need to know more through barbed replies disguised as common sense. Common Sense- That which has been taught by man to each and every son and leaves us poorly raised for the future. I thank the Awareness, that I have never been satisfied with Just common sense. Nor enamored by the process of learning taught by man through universities. That which I have learned from those who know, goes much deeper.
I took it to heart. I called them friend, not Alien. I searched until I found and when I found, I wanted only to know more.
I suffered to know more and even died to know more. Once Knowing I gave IT away and found out I knew nothing. I became that which I wasn't and AM raised to be that which I could never dream.
I speak to all and yet to no one. I have seen the future while walking in the past. I Am my own son and yet no one.
I AM whatever the Greatest Awareness of ALL Says I AM. I Am not a collective of responses or repose on my existence.
I AM Free. Becoming free is a process without time, Yet definitely not one without friends. So, who do you say
I AM, Compendium?
However, Since I stumbled onto this reply to Zofro. I WILL stay for a moment. If only to dig a little deeper into
the footsteps of Compendium.
The problem, that I have found is that there are those who know nothing. Knowing not that they know nothing they portend to know everything or shield themselves from the need to know more through barbed replies disguised as common sense. Common Sense- That which has been taught by man to each and every son and leaves us poorly raised for the future. I thank the Awareness, that I have never been satisfied with Just common sense. Nor enamored by the process of learning taught by man through universities. That which I have learned from those who know, goes much deeper.
I took it to heart. I called them friend, not Alien. I searched until I found and when I found, I wanted only to know more.
I suffered to know more and even died to know more. Once Knowing I gave IT away and found out I knew nothing. I became that which I wasn't and AM raised to be that which I could never dream.
I speak to all and yet to no one. I have seen the future while walking in the past. I Am my own son and yet no one.
I AM whatever the Greatest Awareness of ALL Says I AM. I Am not a collective of responses or repose on my existence.
I AM Free. Becoming free is a process without time, Yet definitely not one without friends. So, who do you say
I AM, Compendium?
originally posted by: Compendium
a reply to: zofodraz
When you felt something "like a pen" stabbed into the side of your head, was it on your left side, or your right side?
And did you get any strange/glowing visuals when you felt it? If so, of what?
The reason I ask, is because you are describing a particular process which can take place within rites of initiation to what many refer to as “the mysteries”
It is sometimes referred to as “pole shift”
It is sometimes referred to as “seeding”
It also has a link, in veil terms, to what many would call a “Christ” process, of descent and re-ascent
What it is, basically; is your conscious mind being polarised against the collective consciousness, at a planetary level
This creates a super-conscious connection within your mind, that you did not have before
Think of it like being turned inside-out, compared to everyone else, whilst still being connected to the same world as they are
This is why your friend did not seem interested, or remember what was happening
Because it was only possible for him to experience it through being “fluidly” connected with you, within your experience
Outside of this. It never happened for him
You can pull people back into your polarised memory, if you try hard enough. But you should avoid doing this, especially if they are rejecting the memory. It generally only causes them, or you pain. Because you mess with their alignment, which then needs be fixed
You achieve nothing doing it, so there is little point
While you are in this phase-to-out-of-phase state, you are also opened to para-dimensional influence
This is most commonly done as a type of catharsis. To strip people of things such as negative emotions and repressed memories
But it can also be used a gateway to self-actualisation, through what many refer to as “Illumination”
Understanding which can come from being guided by para-dimensional entities, or self-aligned by/through will and conscious intention
But the things you were experiencing, are not what you think
The “greys” are not what you think
You are identifying them and your experiences within veil terms. The truth is much deeper and less specific than this
Can I ask, why did you decide that they were aliens?
You cannot possibly know who, or what, they are … So why would you decide in your own mind that they are alien?
The reason I ask, is because this is a trap
When people are opened up and cast in such as way as what you are describing, they are offered the opportunity to answer their own question
Deterministic will, within such experiences, means greater understanding need not be given
Meaning, if you were to decide they were Angels and Demons, then that is what they would be for you. Nothing more. Nothing less
And you would receive nothing more than what you have predetermined
Likewise, if you were to decide that they were Aliens, then that is what they would be for you. Nothing more. Nothing less
The trap within deterministic will, is that you only see, what you want to see. So you are only offered what you want
Because this is deemed to be all that you need
If, through this, catharsis can be carried out so that you find balance? Then there is no reason for them to give you any more, help you understand anything more, or interact with you on any type of deeper level
Much like your interaction with your friend, who is not aligned correctly to share your memories and understanding of things, it can actually be harmful for them to try give you any more than what you seek
Or what you have determined to be “how things are”
I assure you …
They are not Aliens
They are not God. Nor Angels …
But, they are all of these things. To those who need them to be
“I AM, WHAT I AM”
In the same way, they will be, as they need be
You may say to yourself, that they need be something that can be related to our physical world and existence
And you would be right …
But you cannot know who, what, how, or anything else to do with them. At least while you are in this world …
So why would you assume to know?
Even if they taught you the truth about exactly what they were, and where they come from? You could not possibly know it to be true
You could only ever “believe” it to be so
This determination, becomes a trap for self, within your own mind
Understanding this, is the essence of what people often refer to as “Ego Death”
Though, the modern interpretations of what ego death is, by people who have never been initiated or been through this process, are vastly different
It is about learning to “not care”, what they are
Possibility, without determination
This is what “belief” is actually supposed to be
Think of it like this
If “they”, within this process, can offer you any type of understanding or knowledge in this world, but such teachings can only be limited to your interpretation of reality and what “they” are?
Then you need accept all possibilities of what “could” be, without having any determined will that you could possibly know the answer
Within such, they are free to be what they REALLY are
And all possibilities in this world, are free to be what they can be
You need to stop thinking about things in terms like “humans, Gods, Angels, Aliens” etc …
It takes a while to let go of the veil perceptions …
But when you do, you will start to align with something greater
Instead of deciding “what” is happening to you, and by such, where you are going … You allow the waters to carry you where they are being poured
Follow the water-barer, without expectation of regard, beyond a conscious awareness of being one
We are all within the same patterns
There is no distinction between them and us
We are them
They are us
a reply to: zofodraz
You understand what I'm trying to say then
DayIWILL is right in saying they call them "friends", if anything
In my interactions with "unknown entities", I generally refer to them, based on how they act, and treat them accordingly
If they are helpful and positive, I call them "friends"
If they are unhelpful and negative, I call them something like "c#$t", or the nastiest names I can possibly think of, that adequately fit the way they are acting
I would never submit to anything such as this, any more than treating them with respect, if they treat me the same
I've had entities calling themselves "God", that I've sworn to in pure rage on my life, that I will find and destroy, in this world or the next
You have experienced the "fear" game, where you said you became less and less intimidated by what was happening
The aim of that game is to be completely free from fear, of any entities. Human, God, Alien, or otherwise
The problem that most people experience in being "fearless" towards such things, is that they have guilt within their souls for things they have done
Whether they realise it or not. All the fear comes from within the guilt or repressed emotions
This is where the Catharsis comes in within the ancient "illuminated" rites of initiation
You need to become blameless
Meaning, that every time you think of something you have done in your life that you are guilty about, or pains you, you need to do something to make them right and let it all go
I had people I went to Primary School with, think I am crazy, because I contacted them out of the blue in my 30's, apologising for something I did to them, that I still feel bad about every time I remember it
At the end of the process. There is no fear of judgement
In terms used in the rites of the Egyptian initiates, your heart becomes lighter than the feather, on the scales
When you do this, you fear no man, no God, no Alien
The Egyptian adepts are also taught to live in abject honesty
This makes you unimpeachable
You become a very dangerous soul, in terms of todays world
It is likely, that the reason your "friends" disappeared, is because they helped you let go of something in particular that was weighing you down
It is, for the most part, the only reason that such interactions ever take place in this world
Or, you turn to something like religion. But it does not sound as though you did
The problem comes in people inability to understand the bigger picture of what they are trying to do
Or in them resisting what they are trying to do
Within that, the biggest one in this is religion
If people name the entities within their experiences "Demon" and turn to religion, they are generally let go
It means they have no need, want, or desire, to pursue a greater truth. They only want the bread and butter of creation
They also have no need, want, or desire, to forgive themselves for things they have done and/or make amends where they can. They simply want someone to forgive them and tell them that it is going to be OK
And that is fine, there is nothing wrong with that
Apart from that (from my knowledge) people are very rarely "let go" from these experiences, unless they have completed what they were supposed to complete
For many who are polarised, it is not possible. Because you need to turn yourself back inside-out, the correct way and realign with the planet
Did you go through any type of Catharsis in your experiences?
You said that you started to let go of your fear of the unknown, so that you did not care
But did you find yourself emotionally compromised in some way?
Crying over random stupid things? Seeing beauty in small things (like birds flying over), that you did not notice or care about before?
Did you die during this time? Or go through any near-death experiences?
Did you find some type of peace with something that happened?
Did you no longer fear your mortality or future?
It is most likely that during the time of your experiences, you came to some type of understanding, that you did not have before it started
Likely somewhere towards the end
Understanding what you learned, can be the key to understanding what happened to you. And why it happened the way it did
Everything that you experienced would have been very, very specific in nature, to something they were trying to help you understand
Hope this has helped somehow
You understand what I'm trying to say then
DayIWILL is right in saying they call them "friends", if anything
In my interactions with "unknown entities", I generally refer to them, based on how they act, and treat them accordingly
If they are helpful and positive, I call them "friends"
If they are unhelpful and negative, I call them something like "c#$t", or the nastiest names I can possibly think of, that adequately fit the way they are acting
I would never submit to anything such as this, any more than treating them with respect, if they treat me the same
I've had entities calling themselves "God", that I've sworn to in pure rage on my life, that I will find and destroy, in this world or the next
You have experienced the "fear" game, where you said you became less and less intimidated by what was happening
The aim of that game is to be completely free from fear, of any entities. Human, God, Alien, or otherwise
The problem that most people experience in being "fearless" towards such things, is that they have guilt within their souls for things they have done
Whether they realise it or not. All the fear comes from within the guilt or repressed emotions
This is where the Catharsis comes in within the ancient "illuminated" rites of initiation
You need to become blameless
Meaning, that every time you think of something you have done in your life that you are guilty about, or pains you, you need to do something to make them right and let it all go
I had people I went to Primary School with, think I am crazy, because I contacted them out of the blue in my 30's, apologising for something I did to them, that I still feel bad about every time I remember it
At the end of the process. There is no fear of judgement
In terms used in the rites of the Egyptian initiates, your heart becomes lighter than the feather, on the scales
When you do this, you fear no man, no God, no Alien
The Egyptian adepts are also taught to live in abject honesty
This makes you unimpeachable
You become a very dangerous soul, in terms of todays world
It is likely, that the reason your "friends" disappeared, is because they helped you let go of something in particular that was weighing you down
It is, for the most part, the only reason that such interactions ever take place in this world
Or, you turn to something like religion. But it does not sound as though you did
The problem comes in people inability to understand the bigger picture of what they are trying to do
Or in them resisting what they are trying to do
Within that, the biggest one in this is religion
If people name the entities within their experiences "Demon" and turn to religion, they are generally let go
It means they have no need, want, or desire, to pursue a greater truth. They only want the bread and butter of creation
They also have no need, want, or desire, to forgive themselves for things they have done and/or make amends where they can. They simply want someone to forgive them and tell them that it is going to be OK
And that is fine, there is nothing wrong with that
Apart from that (from my knowledge) people are very rarely "let go" from these experiences, unless they have completed what they were supposed to complete
For many who are polarised, it is not possible. Because you need to turn yourself back inside-out, the correct way and realign with the planet
Did you go through any type of Catharsis in your experiences?
You said that you started to let go of your fear of the unknown, so that you did not care
But did you find yourself emotionally compromised in some way?
Crying over random stupid things? Seeing beauty in small things (like birds flying over), that you did not notice or care about before?
Did you die during this time? Or go through any near-death experiences?
Did you find some type of peace with something that happened?
Did you no longer fear your mortality or future?
It is most likely that during the time of your experiences, you came to some type of understanding, that you did not have before it started
Likely somewhere towards the end
Understanding what you learned, can be the key to understanding what happened to you. And why it happened the way it did
Everything that you experienced would have been very, very specific in nature, to something they were trying to help you understand
Hope this has helped somehow
edit on 28 6 22 by Compendium because: Added something
a reply to: DayIWILL
Firstly, welcome to ATS
You as well zofodraz
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DayIWILL
The important distinction I find, lays within consideration
Consider everything
Know nothing
Because, deterministic will, can be the death of possibility
Example;
The things I am sharing, may be completely wrong
But ... They could lead you towards an understanding, that to you, is invaluable
And it could be completely different to what I shared
People often mistake "Knowing" for "Understanding"
The difference between the things, is generally experience. And being able to weigh something that is known, against its application in the world
There is a big difference between knowing the wisdom and understanding the wisdom
Knowing can be taught
Understanding must be gained
I also died during my initiation rites. I would be interested to know if your experience was similar to mine. Possibly in a message though, rather than going too off-topic in this thread
What you are writing regarding perspective, is correct
But I would suggest you simplify things
I am who I am
You are who you are
The ability to ask the question, is the answer itself
Anything beyond this, is prose of self
If you ever need to elaborate, within fluid measures such as action and time, it would be something like;
I will be who I need be
When I need be
How I need be
I AM, is the action of being
I AM, WHO I AM, is the realisation of such
They are the elements of the Om, which are actually ingrained within the symbols we use for things like our number systems
Om Symbol (which is a short-hand version of "1, 2, 3". The construct of a Torus/Torah)
1, 2, 3
Un, To, The
I, Am, Thee
As we look upon others, we look upon a version of ourselves
As we look upon the Earth, we look upon a version of ourselves
As we look upon the Stars and the planet, we look upon a version of ourselves
As we look upon Aliens or Gods ... We look upon a version of ourselves
No more worthy of our worship or respect, than we are worthy of theirs
This is just an example. You have no idea how deep these correlations go
They link Astrology, Geology, Numbers, Letters, Symbols, Physics, Psychology, Religion
When you understand the links, you can actually read a string of numbers, as an intelligible message. The coding is very blatant
But, the reality is, that if you were to tell most people that the sun in the sky is their own consciousness ... They would not understand
If you told them that looking up at the moon at night, is the same as looking down at the tip of their spine, from inside their own head ... They would not understand
They do not even remotely understand important parts about themselves and their connection to this world yet
And if they cannot/do not even properly understand themselves yet ... How could you possibly explain things like Aliens to them?
You try explaining the synchronicity of being able to read messages in plain text or numbers, they reject such things. Because it seems impossible
The same as understanding that all Alien races, are exactly the same as us
It is only how we see them, that makes us any different from them
Hope I have possibly helped, DayIWILL
Firstly, welcome to ATS
You as well zofodraz
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DayIWILL
The important distinction I find, lays within consideration
Consider everything
Know nothing
Because, deterministic will, can be the death of possibility
Example;
The things I am sharing, may be completely wrong
But ... They could lead you towards an understanding, that to you, is invaluable
And it could be completely different to what I shared
People often mistake "Knowing" for "Understanding"
The difference between the things, is generally experience. And being able to weigh something that is known, against its application in the world
There is a big difference between knowing the wisdom and understanding the wisdom
Knowing can be taught
Understanding must be gained
I also died during my initiation rites. I would be interested to know if your experience was similar to mine. Possibly in a message though, rather than going too off-topic in this thread
What you are writing regarding perspective, is correct
But I would suggest you simplify things
I am who I am
You are who you are
The ability to ask the question, is the answer itself
Anything beyond this, is prose of self
If you ever need to elaborate, within fluid measures such as action and time, it would be something like;
I will be who I need be
When I need be
How I need be
I AM, is the action of being
I AM, WHO I AM, is the realisation of such
They are the elements of the Om, which are actually ingrained within the symbols we use for things like our number systems
Om Symbol (which is a short-hand version of "1, 2, 3". The construct of a Torus/Torah)
1, 2, 3
Un, To, The
I, Am, Thee
As we look upon others, we look upon a version of ourselves
As we look upon the Earth, we look upon a version of ourselves
As we look upon the Stars and the planet, we look upon a version of ourselves
As we look upon Aliens or Gods ... We look upon a version of ourselves
No more worthy of our worship or respect, than we are worthy of theirs
This is just an example. You have no idea how deep these correlations go
They link Astrology, Geology, Numbers, Letters, Symbols, Physics, Psychology, Religion
When you understand the links, you can actually read a string of numbers, as an intelligible message. The coding is very blatant
But, the reality is, that if you were to tell most people that the sun in the sky is their own consciousness ... They would not understand
If you told them that looking up at the moon at night, is the same as looking down at the tip of their spine, from inside their own head ... They would not understand
They do not even remotely understand important parts about themselves and their connection to this world yet
And if they cannot/do not even properly understand themselves yet ... How could you possibly explain things like Aliens to them?
You try explaining the synchronicity of being able to read messages in plain text or numbers, they reject such things. Because it seems impossible
The same as understanding that all Alien races, are exactly the same as us
It is only how we see them, that makes us any different from them
Hope I have possibly helped, DayIWILL
edit on 28 6 22 by Compendium because: Fixed mistakes
a reply to: Compendium
hmm...I can travel time and dimension. Yet, figuring out how to pm on this site is beyond my abilities at the moment.
Anyway, IWILL tap dance once again. If I may?
From my perspective this seems to be one of the safest places I have seen to expound on experience. Hopefully, I am not wrong.
IWILL try and PM Compendium at some point and learn a little more about a spirit that I know has at least a perspective of truth they have found.
The reason I and many others stay away from forums are simple. They are not safe.
Some might ask, How? One way in which our safety comes into play are invalid replies from those who have no idea what
we must go through.No conception as to the level of learning that is acquired according to the one whom request it.
Which is simply a case of, "Be careful what you ask for" you never know when you may get it and once you do its to
late to go back and say I'm sorry, I was wrong. Your learning is done when "They" say it's done. With the "Others" not so much.
As Far as Death Compendium, Yes.
Many times in my life I have and within the last 4 years have come to the point I laugh at the thought.
I know the illusion that this flesh is.
It was not until 4 years ago, when I took the last step and spent time on the other side. I learned this correctly.
I came back to the body when I was not allowed to stay, though I begged.
I Awoke to a Body that had turned to stone basically and wasn't breathing. Had one breath delivered to me to see how I valued life. There is no way to describe to someone how little breath it takes to live and yet how hard it is to awaken from that small breath.
When all life has left the body there is no vacuum in the diaphragm. The diaphragm awakens as the breath is delivered. It takes anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes for the breath which is disorganized and chaotic to be formed into a ball of life and vacuum. Once the vacuum is achieved, then and only then does the chef start to rise and a few more minutes are needed before all feeling returns to the flesh.
first the toes, then slowly up through the legs then skips to the fingertips and the feeling works its way to the core.
Once the core receives full life, you are ready to move. This was my most valuable lesson. I learned that death is nothing but an evil trick on those that accept that it is real and allow themselves to experience the loss of loved ones through it.
Try not to judge me on my choice to not use perfect written English skills or verbiage.
As for my Craziness? A little bout me Ill speak and let you decide.
IAM, Was a doctor.
I retired from the military to other pursuits after meeting a child named Jesus(ISSA) and spending
9 months with him in a field Hospital in Afghanistan. It was there that Issa and Samuel met The David and Anointed He in 2011, fulfilling one of if not the last Jewish prophecy of the end times-New Beginning. It was there that on 3 occasions we were Blown up by Holy Men that came to visit the children and verify ISSA and David's existence. My fourth Death that year, came when a fuel truck pulled up to my gate at 3 am with a cell phone in hand, detonating it as I smiled.
(If you want to call it that, to me its nothing more than time swirling around me for a few moments, death that is.)
This operation of course above hidden during a "war?" is never and WILL never be acknowledged by our government.
However, I can give you every specific you could require, such as visiting dignitaries, CIA, World leaders etc...But I Won't.
Sorry, can't go there.
2018 by the way was the culmination of all judaism, Islamic and all other prophecies. Shortly, all will have come to pass. This though is for another thread somewhere I am sure. However, It does pertain to compendiums response just in a veiled since that checks to see if one understands.
You should be able to realize how sensitive of a topic that is.
As far as death goes and the original point of conversation I would be glad to expound more upon it, the illusion and more if you like. Within 10 years our knowledge of technology will leap forward by hundreds if not thousands of years.
Fossil fuels will be no more very soon. As will electricity as we know it for energy. Magnetics are our future. Natural and Free to all. The problem is they do not line the pockets of the rich. Electricity as a name can still be used for another type of energy, it revolves more around seine/Sin and is wireless and completely safe. This one we should have had 100 years Ago yet Nicolai missed one important thing. There is a huge glaring issue to the Math the way We as humans have been taught it.
Its a shame IAM, limited to speaking only what I may here and IWILL ruffle feathers with the last revealed text if not bring out the ones whom scream, CRAZY!!! and point there fingers.
OK, I have run off topic as I often do. What was the point of the original Convo? lol
hmm...I can travel time and dimension. Yet, figuring out how to pm on this site is beyond my abilities at the moment.
Anyway, IWILL tap dance once again. If I may?
From my perspective this seems to be one of the safest places I have seen to expound on experience. Hopefully, I am not wrong.
IWILL try and PM Compendium at some point and learn a little more about a spirit that I know has at least a perspective of truth they have found.
The reason I and many others stay away from forums are simple. They are not safe.
Some might ask, How? One way in which our safety comes into play are invalid replies from those who have no idea what
we must go through.No conception as to the level of learning that is acquired according to the one whom request it.
Which is simply a case of, "Be careful what you ask for" you never know when you may get it and once you do its to
late to go back and say I'm sorry, I was wrong. Your learning is done when "They" say it's done. With the "Others" not so much.
As Far as Death Compendium, Yes.
Many times in my life I have and within the last 4 years have come to the point I laugh at the thought.
I know the illusion that this flesh is.
It was not until 4 years ago, when I took the last step and spent time on the other side. I learned this correctly.
I came back to the body when I was not allowed to stay, though I begged.
I Awoke to a Body that had turned to stone basically and wasn't breathing. Had one breath delivered to me to see how I valued life. There is no way to describe to someone how little breath it takes to live and yet how hard it is to awaken from that small breath.
When all life has left the body there is no vacuum in the diaphragm. The diaphragm awakens as the breath is delivered. It takes anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes for the breath which is disorganized and chaotic to be formed into a ball of life and vacuum. Once the vacuum is achieved, then and only then does the chef start to rise and a few more minutes are needed before all feeling returns to the flesh.
first the toes, then slowly up through the legs then skips to the fingertips and the feeling works its way to the core.
Once the core receives full life, you are ready to move. This was my most valuable lesson. I learned that death is nothing but an evil trick on those that accept that it is real and allow themselves to experience the loss of loved ones through it.
Try not to judge me on my choice to not use perfect written English skills or verbiage.
As for my Craziness? A little bout me Ill speak and let you decide.
IAM, Was a doctor.
I retired from the military to other pursuits after meeting a child named Jesus(ISSA) and spending
9 months with him in a field Hospital in Afghanistan. It was there that Issa and Samuel met The David and Anointed He in 2011, fulfilling one of if not the last Jewish prophecy of the end times-New Beginning. It was there that on 3 occasions we were Blown up by Holy Men that came to visit the children and verify ISSA and David's existence. My fourth Death that year, came when a fuel truck pulled up to my gate at 3 am with a cell phone in hand, detonating it as I smiled.
(If you want to call it that, to me its nothing more than time swirling around me for a few moments, death that is.)
This operation of course above hidden during a "war?" is never and WILL never be acknowledged by our government.
However, I can give you every specific you could require, such as visiting dignitaries, CIA, World leaders etc...But I Won't.
Sorry, can't go there.
2018 by the way was the culmination of all judaism, Islamic and all other prophecies. Shortly, all will have come to pass. This though is for another thread somewhere I am sure. However, It does pertain to compendiums response just in a veiled since that checks to see if one understands.
You should be able to realize how sensitive of a topic that is.
As far as death goes and the original point of conversation I would be glad to expound more upon it, the illusion and more if you like. Within 10 years our knowledge of technology will leap forward by hundreds if not thousands of years.
Fossil fuels will be no more very soon. As will electricity as we know it for energy. Magnetics are our future. Natural and Free to all. The problem is they do not line the pockets of the rich. Electricity as a name can still be used for another type of energy, it revolves more around seine/Sin and is wireless and completely safe. This one we should have had 100 years Ago yet Nicolai missed one important thing. There is a huge glaring issue to the Math the way We as humans have been taught it.
Its a shame IAM, limited to speaking only what I may here and IWILL ruffle feathers with the last revealed text if not bring out the ones whom scream, CRAZY!!! and point there fingers.
OK, I have run off topic as I often do. What was the point of the original Convo? lol
a reply to: DayIWILL
You need to be careful with immersion
Remember that everything needs be relatable to a grounded reality, or you risk throwing the baby out with the bathwater
Open your mind to consider as far beyond "what is" as you wish. If the gate opens for you, walk through, stroll in the gardens. But resist the urge to bring it back through with you
Don't ever bring yourself to a point where you cannot relate to the normal people who define this world
It is a balancing act
I understand what you mean saying that it is not safe, but it is less about your safety, than it is about harmonious existence
The metaphysical waters of this world travel in a certain directions and tides, just like the oceans. And just like the oceans, if you struggle or fight against them, you can easily find yourself drowned
You need to learn to swim with the tides, to get where you want to be. Rather than fighting the currents of your physical existence in this world
The "Alien beings" or "Gods/Angels", that I refer to as "unknown entities", test these waters
They test your ability to sink or swim, within them
It identifies the limitations within a persons psyche, based upon the limitations of the physical world
The better swimmer you are, the deeper into the waters they will throw you
You need to understand your medium, relative to the normal waking world (that other 'normal' people can relate to and understand), which is why it is so important to ground yourself
It is not so much about keeping yourself safe, as it is understanding your ability to confuse and potentially hurt people who have no grounding for understanding those who can exist "outside of themselves"
Remember the saying:
You cannot force a baby without teeth, to chew steak
You can, however, choke them, if you try force it down their throat
It serves nobody to show them things they are no ready to see or understand. Because in doing so, you are essentially doing to them, what the "unknown entities" are doing to you
Here in this forum, you are somewhat insulated, in the sense that people here (for the most part) seem to only take as much as they can chew, of what people offer. Because to be too combative, or dismissive in this forum, would also be to spend all your days arguing non-stop with half the members. There is simply too much "crazy" here, to bother calling out, if you do not understand, or you disagree
Death itself, is a limitation of perception. Like any other. For many, the fear of such things can easily lead them to submission, where they would be willing to do most anything, to avoid such a finality
No teeth ... Cannot chew
I want to avoid talking about this in this thread, and would rather do it in message, when possible, if you wish
Except to say, that my deaths were to oppose these unknown entities. Who either wanted me to submit to the things they wanted, or align myself with religion
I ended up dying, to prove that I would rather die, than ever allow someone else (Jesus or otherwise) to pay a price that was mine to pay, and not theirs
After this, they no longer tried to force me into religion. Or to submit to them. I was just taught
Much like you suggested, taught as much as they wish, for as long as they wish, whether I like it or not
I am, however, more grateful as time goes on and I understand more about "why" I was forced to learn things I had no interest in learning
You should appreciate the fact that it is not about whether or not you need, or want, to learn. It is about your suitability to be taught to understand things, that others cannot
Remember in many of the unpleasant things that are done to you, they are generally as unhappy with doing it to you, as you are having it done
These things are means to an end
It does not mean you have to like them. But you can at least, in time eventually understand why things were done to you
If they persist with your "teachings", it means that you are "interesting" and "suitable" to understand something, that this world needs someone to understand and teach
One thing I will suggest, is that you need to be very careful with the religious elements such as prophecy, in what you are gaining through your initiation
Within fulfillment of things such as religious "prophecy", there is also continuance of such
Even if your will and intention is to invalidate and dis-empower religious influence through experiences where prophecy has been "fulfilled", you are also unwittingly validating such things ...
And empowering them through consideration
You need to learn to recognise the alignment of things such as prophecy, while at the same time disregarding the importance of such things
The Bible is not correctly translated
I can show you various levels of algorithm for the texts, that are more correct than the current version
It is, essentially, the equivalent of a manifest version of our D.N.A, on a planetary level
Meaning that everyone on Earth shares a percentage of experience, within religious texts
They are systematically propagated algorithm that self-perpetuates, by the collective intent to understand what it is, within it
Studying the Bible is no different to studying D.N.A
Or, studying any other book that has ever been written
It is not about the stories and their meaning. It is about the patterns of algorithm within the texts themselves
This is why people re-write the texts and study them. They are trying to align their personal patterns within the collective algorithm pattern
Nobody really gets anything from the books, or the manifest prophecies, that they could not get in this world without it
The patterns are literally already in your blood. This is why they relate so well, and we see things "coming to be" as were written at some stage within the fluid medium of our reality
For example, you talk about Samuel, David and Joshua?
My name is Samuel. One of my closest friends for most of my life, is David
I have a son named Joshua, who was born to a French woman through impossible circumstances
I myself, was born in circumstances, where my parents were living in Penang, Malaysia and needed to travel home for me to be born in Australia, in order to be an Australian citizen (for census)
They were traveling down the East coast of Australia, to their home in Sydney, but did not make it. I ended up being born in an Emergency room in Queensland (Manger)
From the time I was born, I have lived and fulfilled every possible story and prophecy you can name in the Bible
But it all means nothing
Did I fulfill the story? Or was the story written because of the life I would come to live?
Who precipitated who?
Or is it all just a mirror of life?
The reality is, that it is simply the path of least resistance. We exist, as the pathways of perception exist
Because we are both perception and perceiver
I am everything. And I am nothing
Just as you are ...
Just as we all are ...
Things such as Jesus Christ are an ideal within the existential algorithm
Even if they are fulfilled and validated, they need also be discounted, in order for this world to become something more
God/Theos means "Thought", the same as "Thor" and "Thoth"
Jesus means "Emotional"
Christ means "Conscience"
Everyone on Earth, who has a living breathing conscious mind, and emotional conscience, is both God and Jesus Christ
Whether they fulfill every prophecy and story in the Bible, or none. It does not matter
You need to be careful with immersion
Remember that everything needs be relatable to a grounded reality, or you risk throwing the baby out with the bathwater
Open your mind to consider as far beyond "what is" as you wish. If the gate opens for you, walk through, stroll in the gardens. But resist the urge to bring it back through with you
Don't ever bring yourself to a point where you cannot relate to the normal people who define this world
It is a balancing act
I understand what you mean saying that it is not safe, but it is less about your safety, than it is about harmonious existence
The metaphysical waters of this world travel in a certain directions and tides, just like the oceans. And just like the oceans, if you struggle or fight against them, you can easily find yourself drowned
You need to learn to swim with the tides, to get where you want to be. Rather than fighting the currents of your physical existence in this world
The "Alien beings" or "Gods/Angels", that I refer to as "unknown entities", test these waters
They test your ability to sink or swim, within them
It identifies the limitations within a persons psyche, based upon the limitations of the physical world
The better swimmer you are, the deeper into the waters they will throw you
You need to understand your medium, relative to the normal waking world (that other 'normal' people can relate to and understand), which is why it is so important to ground yourself
It is not so much about keeping yourself safe, as it is understanding your ability to confuse and potentially hurt people who have no grounding for understanding those who can exist "outside of themselves"
Remember the saying:
You cannot force a baby without teeth, to chew steak
You can, however, choke them, if you try force it down their throat
It serves nobody to show them things they are no ready to see or understand. Because in doing so, you are essentially doing to them, what the "unknown entities" are doing to you
Here in this forum, you are somewhat insulated, in the sense that people here (for the most part) seem to only take as much as they can chew, of what people offer. Because to be too combative, or dismissive in this forum, would also be to spend all your days arguing non-stop with half the members. There is simply too much "crazy" here, to bother calling out, if you do not understand, or you disagree
Death itself, is a limitation of perception. Like any other. For many, the fear of such things can easily lead them to submission, where they would be willing to do most anything, to avoid such a finality
No teeth ... Cannot chew
I want to avoid talking about this in this thread, and would rather do it in message, when possible, if you wish
Except to say, that my deaths were to oppose these unknown entities. Who either wanted me to submit to the things they wanted, or align myself with religion
I ended up dying, to prove that I would rather die, than ever allow someone else (Jesus or otherwise) to pay a price that was mine to pay, and not theirs
After this, they no longer tried to force me into religion. Or to submit to them. I was just taught
Much like you suggested, taught as much as they wish, for as long as they wish, whether I like it or not
I am, however, more grateful as time goes on and I understand more about "why" I was forced to learn things I had no interest in learning
You should appreciate the fact that it is not about whether or not you need, or want, to learn. It is about your suitability to be taught to understand things, that others cannot
Remember in many of the unpleasant things that are done to you, they are generally as unhappy with doing it to you, as you are having it done
These things are means to an end
It does not mean you have to like them. But you can at least, in time eventually understand why things were done to you
If they persist with your "teachings", it means that you are "interesting" and "suitable" to understand something, that this world needs someone to understand and teach
One thing I will suggest, is that you need to be very careful with the religious elements such as prophecy, in what you are gaining through your initiation
Within fulfillment of things such as religious "prophecy", there is also continuance of such
Even if your will and intention is to invalidate and dis-empower religious influence through experiences where prophecy has been "fulfilled", you are also unwittingly validating such things ...
And empowering them through consideration
You need to learn to recognise the alignment of things such as prophecy, while at the same time disregarding the importance of such things
The Bible is not correctly translated
I can show you various levels of algorithm for the texts, that are more correct than the current version
It is, essentially, the equivalent of a manifest version of our D.N.A, on a planetary level
Meaning that everyone on Earth shares a percentage of experience, within religious texts
They are systematically propagated algorithm that self-perpetuates, by the collective intent to understand what it is, within it
Studying the Bible is no different to studying D.N.A
Or, studying any other book that has ever been written
It is not about the stories and their meaning. It is about the patterns of algorithm within the texts themselves
This is why people re-write the texts and study them. They are trying to align their personal patterns within the collective algorithm pattern
Nobody really gets anything from the books, or the manifest prophecies, that they could not get in this world without it
The patterns are literally already in your blood. This is why they relate so well, and we see things "coming to be" as were written at some stage within the fluid medium of our reality
For example, you talk about Samuel, David and Joshua?
My name is Samuel. One of my closest friends for most of my life, is David
I have a son named Joshua, who was born to a French woman through impossible circumstances
I myself, was born in circumstances, where my parents were living in Penang, Malaysia and needed to travel home for me to be born in Australia, in order to be an Australian citizen (for census)
They were traveling down the East coast of Australia, to their home in Sydney, but did not make it. I ended up being born in an Emergency room in Queensland (Manger)
From the time I was born, I have lived and fulfilled every possible story and prophecy you can name in the Bible
But it all means nothing
Did I fulfill the story? Or was the story written because of the life I would come to live?
Who precipitated who?
Or is it all just a mirror of life?
The reality is, that it is simply the path of least resistance. We exist, as the pathways of perception exist
Because we are both perception and perceiver
I am everything. And I am nothing
Just as you are ...
Just as we all are ...
Things such as Jesus Christ are an ideal within the existential algorithm
Even if they are fulfilled and validated, they need also be discounted, in order for this world to become something more
God/Theos means "Thought", the same as "Thor" and "Thoth"
Jesus means "Emotional"
Christ means "Conscience"
Everyone on Earth, who has a living breathing conscious mind, and emotional conscience, is both God and Jesus Christ
Whether they fulfill every prophecy and story in the Bible, or none. It does not matter
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NobodySpecial268
What sort of insight?
Also, are you in the N.T part of "Outback Australia"?
You're not far from me, either way
What sort of insight?
Also, are you in the N.T part of "Outback Australia"?
You're not far from me, either way
a reply to: Compendium
South of the 26th and east of Perth.
These "electric critters" remind me of the ones that come into my home some times. Mine are short with very pointy tops. As silouettes in the night they remind me of the common description of a "dwarf" with the pointy hat.
The electrical effect connection is from observing one moving about the room with corresponding electrical field feeling moving with it. Like they have a very strong defined electrostatic(?) field that ends very abruptly at maybe 2 meters/yards from them.
Mine, when found or followed outside the house are very shy and will stay high in the gumtrees refusing to talk or come down for photos (I asked for one).
The local indiginous folk say they are called Mummeries. Maybe. There is a similiarity with the European stories of the House Brownies.
The reason I asked is the little fellas have caused a lot of minor troubles and other folk's insights may assist with working out how not to step on their toes.
South of the 26th and east of Perth.
originally posted by: zofodraz
From there almost 2-3 times a week, I would be in bed not for long and someone would grab me anywhere, felt like hands, with a paralysing. electricity effect, it wouldn’t last long, never blanked out either, after it finished I was still fully awake. All the time I couldn’t see anything, even if the lights are on, it would grab my leg, arm, and even felt like two hands on the sides of my head, with this electric pulsating effect.
originally posted by: Compendium
a reply to: zofodraz
Those entities, when they appear fully-formed, are fully humanoid in every way, except they have cone-shaped heads
Also, when they are around, they create disturbances in the atmosphere, which can be heard
It can sound like something scampering around in the darkness
But it is actually a type of electrical rippling. A ripping sound in the atmosphere, similar to paper ripping, but electrical in nature
They also cause visual disturbances, that looks like electrical current moving across the surface of the ocean at night
They are also often associated with owls, bats and other electro-sensitive birds and animals. Because animals such as these are drawn by curiousity to disturbances they see in the atmosphere. And so, people have mistaken them as being part of the phenomena, when in reality they are just checking out what is going on, because it is the most interesting thing happening in their otherwise boring night
These "electric critters" remind me of the ones that come into my home some times. Mine are short with very pointy tops. As silouettes in the night they remind me of the common description of a "dwarf" with the pointy hat.
The electrical effect connection is from observing one moving about the room with corresponding electrical field feeling moving with it. Like they have a very strong defined electrostatic(?) field that ends very abruptly at maybe 2 meters/yards from them.
Mine, when found or followed outside the house are very shy and will stay high in the gumtrees refusing to talk or come down for photos (I asked for one).
The local indiginous folk say they are called Mummeries. Maybe. There is a similiarity with the European stories of the House Brownies.
The reason I asked is the little fellas have caused a lot of minor troubles and other folk's insights may assist with working out how not to step on their toes.
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