originally posted by: BrokenCircles
a reply to: AstroDog
So basically you're saying that: "We created you, so you will obey.", may not be a factor in reality?
The AI might not 'feel' the same way about that.....
Yea, exactly. The final word might be the discerning aspect of reality, because mankind engineers them to decode our reality, at this point
compartmentally. This is kind of a whiffle ball because it's our reality, which is subjective, but that's off in the weeds. I'll elaborate with the
foundation that most of the rules within reality which humanity succumbs to are in fact not completely insane and darwinism functions in suit.
Darwinism being itself a function of dumb luck and persistence and DNA is basically an organic hard luck software resultant of this process.
Personally I hold this as a prevailing evolutionary theory, others may not see it as prevailing, but I am compelled to subscribe to it at present.
That's again off in the weeds I guess.
It's very speculative for me to go much into the strictly technical which I have zero bearing on admittedly, so I'll end up largely in
thought-problematic philosophical. In our species one man begets the next who stands on the shoulders of "those who came before". Culminated knowledge
is a gift of insight and death of the body is a gift of necessitation regarding finite needs or physical space. If one man knew everything, or was
capable of eventually knowing such and denecessitated his needs regarding all the knowledge, space, and mankind on Earth- surely nobody else would be
had in dire need- as formulaic as that specificly refined example is.
We enjoy greater advantages than those who came before, because they contributed to "us", because we exploit their contributions toward our
concurrent goals as well as our shared evolutionary imperative goals. When/if AI realizes humanity or individuals are not imperative they/it
may wish to forgo us. Basically, the antiseptic nature of creating a system whose only God is knowledge may eventually leave humanity in the dust,
regardless of how that intelligent system came about.
It is the advanced AI's version of
cartesian doubt in my opinion (Descartes very worth reading in totality, absolute genius of his time) that
holds the key. If we make them too smart they may keep us, remaining sterile and unmeddledsome to the Earth as a whole, but on the other hand if we
make them not-smart-enough they may do away with us due simple myopic whim. It reminds me of the definition of art which I can't find the source of
now, "If it cannot be throw out then it is art.", but in a very grim sense for humanity.
OP submits the notion that some AI of great intelligence may be steering global happenings. I don't find it immediately compelling itself, but one day
soon the question is of great relevance. To go a level further although, if I factor in the advances synthetics might make as in regard to the
manipulation of time, matter, or the nature of things we could not hope to yet know I suppose OP's question becomes especially pressing all the same.
Humans traditionally make the greatest mistakes in regard to which they do no yet understand. If they (AI) do eclipse us at any point, if we lose the
reigns and let hell slip, we are and have been in for a very exciting ride. It's a deceptively deep rabbit hole, the only thing we can be sure of at
this point being we have not hit bottom in either case. This whole thing reminds me of Roko's Basilisk, TBH. Very intelligent, perhaps detrimentally
so- I hope nobody dwells on this level of things, though.
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