Teen stabbed to death as seven people knifed in London in 24 hours

Is this just teen and young hood summer violence or something more?

Some psychologists believe you have to be really whacked to stab someone up close and personal unless it's in self-defense.


Teen, 17, stabbed to death as seven people knifed in capital in 24 hours

It is the seventh stabbing to have occurred in the capital in 24 hours, reports The Express.


The first incident took place around 2pm yesterday (June 17) in Bromley, south London, where a man in his 20s was rushed to hospital after being found with multiple stab wounds.

Police were then called to reports of a double stabbing in Hackney on Friday afternoon.

Two men were taken to hospital with non life-threatening stabbing injuries and both were arrested.

Last night, two teenagers aged 17 and 18 suffered stab wounds after a fight at Hampstead Heath and were taken to hospital.

Later on Friday evening, a 16-year-old boy was treated at hospital after being knifed at Crystal Palace Parade.

a reply to: putnam6

Interesting.

Almost 47 years ago, as a young man in London, I once saw a fight take place, saw my first stabbing.

It was on Finchley Rd. Right near Hampstead Heath.

a reply to: putnam6

Ban all pointy things! (oops, the fools are aren't they?)

Make all UK citizens walk with their hands up above their head, hands open.

That will fix it!

a reply to: putnam6

Are they going to ban knives?

Guaranteed it was the 'cultural enrichers',all gangsta and trousers hanging off their ass.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: putnam6

Are they going to ban knives?

Make more sense to ban importing 'cultural enrichers' from Asia and sub Saharan Africa but if you say or think it you are oh so racist.

No, they are not going to ban knives.

But if I'm going to get attacked in a school, church, or supermarket, I'd rather it be by a guy with a knife than one with an AR-15 for obvious reasons.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: putnam6

Interesting.

Almost 47 years ago, as a young man in London, I once saw a fight take place, saw my first stabbing.

It was on Finchley Rd. Right near Hampstead Heath.

err this sound a tad like a serial killer confession...

Seriously though hope it wasn't anybody you knew.

I got a buddy permanently scarred, guy sliced his chin and up to his cheek in a fight one time.

But, what about the background checks when the knives were purchased? Something has gone wrong with how the government does the background checks.

We're any of the weapons of the dark and military kind? Assault knives?

They must ban large capacity knife holders. Too many knives in one place is too dangerous..

a reply to: putnam6

Back in the Victorian era all manner of self defence weapons were created for the public such as Sword's disguised as walking stick's and even umbrella's, small self defence pistols etc.

So knife crime is nothing new but we are seeing it reaching epidemic proportions and mostly it is happening in relation to the ethnic minority's and new migrants to our nation.

Hate to say it and he is wrongly vilified as a fascist (And his words were abused by the likes of real fascists such as the NF which is shameful since he was NOT an evil man just a very patriotic one and had been actually in the running for leadership of the Conservative party until he spoke the unpleasant truth) which he most certainly was not but old Enoch Powell was absolutely correct.

This was his actual speech in full.

The woman he mentioned but would NOT name since he was her MP and wished to protect her has since been proven to have been real and he was accused of having made up the story though we now know it was factual.

But to point out the obvious poverty drives crime and we have gang crime mostly ethnic or drug related in origin also now having a foothold in British society.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: putnam6

Ban all pointy things! (oops, the fools are aren't they?)

Make all UK citizens walk with their hands up above their head, hands open.

That will fix it!

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: putnam6

Are they going to ban knives?

Hum that would be a long road Lol!

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: putnam6

Back in the Victorian era all manner of self defence weapons were created for the public such as Sword's disguised as walking stick's and even umbrella's, small self defence pistols etc.

So knife crime is nothing new but we are seeing it reaching epidemic proportions and mostly it is happening in relation to the ethnic minority's and new migrants to our nation.

Hate to say it and he is wrongly vilified as a fascist (And his words were abused by the likes of real fascists such as the NF which is shameful since he was NOT an evil man just a very patriotic one and had been actually in the running for leadership of the Conservative party until he spoke the unpleasant truth) which he most certainly was not but old Enoch Powell was absolutely correct.

This was his actual speech in full.

The woman he mentioned but would NOT name since he was her MP and wished to protect her has since been proven to have been real and he was accused of having made up the story though we now know it was factual.

But to point out the obvious poverty drives crime and we have gang crime mostly ethnic or drug related in origin also now having a foothold in British society.

Thanks, love hearing and reading about history it's why I asked.

So eloquently put and rationally discussed by the honorable Enoch Powell. Makes me wonder is immigration one thing America is actually ahead of the UK. After all, we were immigrants ourselves, and we have received the Dutch, Irish, Germans, Italians, and so on, from every corner of the globe, pretty much non-stop. Sure we have loads of crime in some communities and cities too, but we also have immigrant areas that are doing very well and have become assimilated.

The MS-13 is on the rise, but definitely, we have homegrown issues with poverty, drugs, and guns here too plus we have become extremely desensitized, and prone to rage violence, for lack of a better term. Im not sure we would even hear about 7 people stabbed in any city the size of London if it was here in the states. Hell the shootings in Chicago are so frequent it's not major news even on Illinois

a reply to: putnam6

I live in the UK. I was brought up on a council estate that was very violent. Caucasian people are violent too. It was so horrible and it ruined all my childhood. Now I live in a beautiful place by the ocean.

It is the environment mainly I believe. Inner cities divorce us from reality into too much a human construct that is very ill.

You forget just how bad it was in Caucasian Victorian Britain. Dickens told us all about it. Bill Sykes was evil and exploited children for crime as did Fagin. That stuff was really happening to the street kids. They were in gangs run by adults.

These kids are just the same. They are being run and organised by adults. It is the gangster market doing all this. Wherever it is you will find violence. Look at how the mobsters behaved in Chicago. You can't blame Afro people for that. Look how a whole country behaved when it used others as slaves and treated them like animals.

You see yourselves as whiter than white, but you are not. Your history is even more violent and the damage it has done to the world that is still ricocheting.

Don't you know what the Kray twins did in London, what the Mexican cartels do now? The Krays were into child prostitution rackets for business people and some very high ups too. Prince Andrew was using a human trafficked under age girl as a sex slave. This has always been. In Bible times it was bandits on the road in the hills who would beat you to death and rob you. This has always been with us.

STOP projecting it and scapegoating one particular people. You are doing it unconsciously because you are prejudiced against them. You pick them out for what is universal in all humanity and cultures.

When we accept others we have to accept what is good and bad about them. If Spain accepts ex pat British it takes on both sides of what they are, the rudeness and sense of entitlement, et c, the invasion of their culture by migrants. There are plenty of British criminals who have hid out in other countries. You keep making it all about you, that you are the good guy and everyone else is not as good as you. It is not self aware. It is unfair and prejudiced and will not be tolerated in the modern world.

I put both gangster violence, racial and other prejudices in the same garbage can for the bin men to carry away from us. Enoch Powell was a bigot. His world never was. It never existed. He is an illusion. There have always been migrants. That is how humans came from Africa in the first place. It will always happen. We are all Africans in the beginning. Migration has to keep happening as it is important to our continued evolution. Evolution doers not stand still. You can't have a picture postcard perfectly maintained white world that never changes and is always boom time economy. If you believe in that you really are not living in the real world.

If we marry a person we accept their shadow and their angel side. We have to because all humans have it. We accept the darker areas of our children's natures.

If you want this to end you must all concentrate and focus on it. You must put resources into it. You must engage with your young people. If you do not they will make their own social structures to survive. That is gangs. They will make their own rules. That is control of business with threat of violent repercussions if you screw a deal up. The mob were like it, just the same.

It was machine guns in Chicago, much worse. If you want it to stop you must vote for it to stop. You must keep choosing the candidates who will bring us investment in our kids, structure and law and order from the state, not from the law of the jungle and street justice. You vote for politicians who don't care and let it happen. That must be because you don't care and let it happen then.

At a minimum assault knives should be banned immediately. I think we can all agree on that. Lots of controls on purchasing kitchen knives should be put in place as well. You shouldn’t be able to just walk in the store and grab a set of knives since they’re obviously so dangerous.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: putnam6

Are they going to ban knives?

If they did they'd also have to ban forks to avoid forkings , chisels to prevent chiselings and skewers to stop skewerings.

They need to address the cause not the effect but sadly the Met police have their hands tied by bleeding heart Liberals and BLM supporters.

originally posted by: Tarantula777
a reply to: putnam6

I live in the UK. I was brought up on a council estate that was very violent. Caucasian people are violent too. It was so horrible and it ruined all my childhood. Now I live in a beautiful place by the ocean.

It is the environment mainly I believe. Inner cities divorce us from reality into too much a human construct that is very ill.

You forget just how bad it was in Caucasian Victorian Britain. Dickens told us all about it. Bill Sykes was evil and exploited children for crime as did Fagin. That stuff was really happening to the street kids. They were in gangs run by adults.

These kids are just the same. They are being run and organised by adults. It is the gangster market doing all this. Wherever it is you will find violence. Look at how the mobsters behaved in Chicago. You can't blame Afro people for that. Look how a whole country behaved when it used others as slaves and treated them like animals.

You see yourselves as whiter than white, but you are not. Your history is even more violent and the damage it has done to the world that is still ricocheting.

Don't you know what the Kray twins did in London, what the Mexican cartels do now? The Krays were into child prostitution rackets for business people and some very high ups too. Prince Andrew was using a human trafficked under age girl as a sex slave. This has always been. In Bible times it was bandits on the road in the hills who would beat you to death and rob you. This has always been with us.

STOP projecting it and scapegoating one particular people. You are doing it unconsciously because you are prejudiced against them. You pick them out for what is universal in all humanity and cultures.

When we accept others we have to accept what is good and bad about them. If Spain accepts ex pat British it takes on both sides of what they are, the rudeness and sense of entitlement, et c, the invasion of their culture by migrants. There are plenty of British criminals who have hid out in other countries. You keep making it all about you, that you are the good guy and everyone else is not as good as you. It is not self aware. It is unfair and prejudiced and will not be tolerated in the modern world.

I put both gangster violence, racial and other prejudices in the same garbage can for the bin men to carry away from us. Enoch Powell was a bigot. His world never was. It never existed. He is an illusion. There have always been migrants. That is how humans came from Africa in the first place. It will always happen. We are all Africans in the beginning. Migration has to keep happening as it is important to our continued evolution. Evolution doers not stand still. You can't have a picture postcard perfectly maintained white world that never changes and is always boom time economy. If you believe in that you really are not living in the real world.

If we marry a person we accept their shadow and their angel side. We have to because all humans have it. We accept the darker areas of our children's natures.

If you want this to end you must all concentrate and focus on it. You must put resources into it. You must engage with your young people. If you do not they will make their own social structures to survive. That is gangs. They will make their own rules. That is control of business with threat of violent repercussions if you screw a deal up. The mob were like it, just the same.

It was machine guns in Chicago, much worse. If you want it to stop you must vote for it to stop. You must keep choosing the candidates who will bring us investment in our kids, structure and law and order from the state, not from the law of the jungle and street justice. You vote for politicians who don't care and let it happen. That must be because you don't care and let it happen then.

Thank you for your post...I don't know how London is? It is why I asked.

Council estate? we have them here too, they are called Projects here in Atlanta they were all over the place. But we have slowly cut some of those areas and FWIW the crime just moves into another area.

But your post is so full of hyperbole as well as being misdirected as if I was saying society's violence is just the immigrants and minorities. All I was asking is this normal? Im not saying or suggesting America is better or we don't have issues too. However, this is a complex issue we have and solutions that work for the UK, might not fit here. Again here in America, our violence isn't because of immigration, it's already ingrained in our lifestyle

Sure we have racists and bigots in America but guess what so does the UK and every other country in the world, but it's a helluva lot less than in even the '70s, and it gets better every year.

Guns are in our culture here because we broke away from the monarchal system, that made sure the masses were not gonna be heavily armed ask Louie and Marie. Right or wrong early American settlers usually needed a rifle or atleast a pistol and if they didn't have one they might very well become dead American settlers.

You can not expect something ingrained in a society for a couple of hundred years to be abolished immediately without a severe snapback and unintended consequences. Alcohol prohibition is a prime example, in a lot of ways, this is where Chicago's and America's history of violence snowballed exponentially. Suddenly you were an outlaw if you drank the "Demon Rum" and throughout Appalachia and the deep south, thousands became illegal moonshiners. Now moonshiners aren't the issues it's Meth Heads and addicts and while there's some crossover the Meth Heads seem to be more a caucasian activity and are rampant not only in cities but in the suburbs and especially in rural America. We had 3 murders recently in a little peaceful burg, Meth head tried to rob them, killed a teen and his 2 Grandparents in the business they had run forever. All because of the perps drug addiction

FWIW here in America, once you introduce a little illegal activity in an area it makes it easier to get into more illegal activities just because you are around the criminal element. I get the feeling in the United Kingdom once you get out of the cities it's relatively peaceful, I live well outside of Atlanta in a nice area, but people get assaulted or killed frequently enough that it's not big news.

The same can be said to a certain extent about our drug issues. I have no doubt the majority of those shot in Chicago this weekend were drug-related or turf wars. You know because drugs are illegal and anything illegal is gonna attract a certain element.

If you ask any American the response time in an emergency from the police is embarrassingly long, I have no doubt with a wholesale ban on guns, petty crime would skyrocket, and consequently there we would have now even more unarmed law-abiding citizens getting killed by gun-toting criminals. FWIW it doesn't make the news often but plenty of times a shooter has been stopped because another citizen could and did engage them with a firearm.

On top of trying to make this a gun control issue, it's not that either it's a mental health issue, and it's the growing divide BETWEEN CLASSES, not colors, well at least in America. FWIW here in Georgia, we are about to find out, because a bill that would allow residents to carry a concealed gun in public without a permit is now law.

a reply to: putnam6

This is very interesting, who needs guns when you can do the same damage with knives, bombs or whatever can be made.

When it comes to violence is always a way to cause harm to others.

a reply to: putnam6

The problem was NEVER the immigrants but there culture, education and how far they would go to blend into British Society.

The Problem is rather those whom have foisted onto us a culture of inclusiveness were our OWN culture had to adapt to the cultures of others, were foreigners whom have come to live here often have not even bothered to learn to speak our language and go about there lives as if they were back in there own nations of origin OR take over entire town's and turn them into a foreign country in many respects such as for example Luton.


All I want is for them to become British and if they can NOT do that then they should have there British residence and British passports (if they have them) taken off them and be returned forcibly to there country of origin.

I do not care were a person comes from, what there ethnicity is so long as when they are in my house (country) they treat it and we that already live here with respect.

Which of course so very many of them, often second generation so born here but there parent's and imported culture is not from here often do not.