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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ColeYounger
While all the anti-vax guys went on as if any mandates were permanent and forever, this just proves that they never were.
Country after country are relaxing restrictions, all over the world, and have been for months.
And so now you claim that this is because of some weird and entirely antithetical 'twist' in your doom-porn fantasy?
Spin it how you want.
Everyone can see it now.
originally posted by: igloo
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ColeYounger
While all the anti-vax guys went on as if any mandates were permanent and forever, this just proves that they never were.
Country after country are relaxing restrictions, all over the world, and have been for months.
And so now you claim that this is because of some weird and entirely antithetical 'twist' in your doom-porn fantasy?
Spin it how you want.
Everyone can see it now.
Our country, leaders, media, citizens have treated the unvaccinated badly so there is a much bigger issue going on than just a pandemic coming and going. It was used to abuse and divide the people. That doesn't go away. It may recede somewhat but damage is done.
originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: ByteChanger
Covid has a 99% survival rate.
There NEVER was and still is not a "risk".
Government should have focused on those with pre-existing conditions, compromised immune systems and the elderly.
Governments did exactly NOTHING for these groups.
And with respect to hospital capacity, two years into this circus and governments have done, again, NOTHING to increase ICU hospital capacity. We are no better off than in 2019 while governments have spent Trillions since then !!!!
You can only conclude that governments WANT hospitals to be overwhelmed in the future
Because this was never about your health
Since Day 1, this hysteria was about control and only about control.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: ByteChanger
Covid has a 99% survival rate.
There NEVER was and still is not a "risk".
Government should have focused on those with pre-existing conditions, compromised immune systems and the elderly.
Governments did exactly NOTHING for these groups.
And with respect to hospital capacity, two years into this circus and governments have done, again, NOTHING to increase ICU hospital capacity. We are no better off than in 2019 while governments have spent Trillions since then !!!!
You can only conclude that governments WANT hospitals to be overwhelmed in the future
Because this was never about your health
Since Day 1, this hysteria was about control and only about control.
A 99% survival rate means that 1 in every hundred people doesn't survive. It would mean that out of a population the size of the USA's, 3,348,423 people will die as the disease becomes endemic. So, you might want to revise your baseless percentile.
Also, the government already pretty much had control over any individual they wanted, prior to the pandemic. And, after the pandemic there will be more people like you, who distrust your government, so their plan couldn't give them any extra control. It was a fairly stupid thing to do from the 'get-go', costing lots of money, time, and resource, and giving them nothing.
originally posted by: M5xaz
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: ByteChanger
Covid has a 99% survival rate.
There NEVER was and still is not a "risk".
Government should have focused on those with pre-existing conditions, compromised immune systems and the elderly.
Governments did exactly NOTHING for these groups.
And with respect to hospital capacity, two years into this circus and governments have done, again, NOTHING to increase ICU hospital capacity. We are no better off than in 2019 while governments have spent Trillions since then !!!!
You can only conclude that governments WANT hospitals to be overwhelmed in the future
Because this was never about your health
Since Day 1, this hysteria was about control and only about control.
A 99% survival rate means that 1 in every hundred people doesn't survive. It would mean that out of a population the size of the USA's, 3,348,423 people will die as the disease becomes endemic. So, you might want to revise your baseless percentile.
Also, the government already pretty much had control over any individual they wanted, prior to the pandemic. And, after the pandemic there will be more people like you, who distrust your government, so their plan couldn't give them any extra control. It was a fairly stupid thing to do from the 'get-go', costing lots of money, time, and resource, and giving them nothing.
You might want to revise your baseless statements.
No government (aside from communists) had ever before used "lockdowns"
, forcible house arrest for it's own population which had no impact on health but are DIRECTLY responsible for NEVER BEFORE SEEN:
- supply chain breakdowns
- employee shortages
- good shortage
- start of at least some food item shortage
- goverments printing never before amount of money
- resultant long term inflation
It did give more power to governments which were very reluctant to give back that power ( ex: travel measures, even when Covid largely over)
The province has recorded 2,061 deaths in 2021 where COVID-19 was a contributing factor through Dec. 12, meaning the novel coronavirus would rank second on Alberta’s most recent list of leading causes of death.
Alberta recorded its deadliest year on record for drug overdoses with more than 1,700 deaths in 2021.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: M5xaz
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: ByteChanger
Covid has a 99% survival rate.
There NEVER was and still is not a "risk".
Government should have focused on those with pre-existing conditions, compromised immune systems and the elderly.
Governments did exactly NOTHING for these groups.
And with respect to hospital capacity, two years into this circus and governments have done, again, NOTHING to increase ICU hospital capacity. We are no better off than in 2019 while governments have spent Trillions since then !!!!
You can only conclude that governments WANT hospitals to be overwhelmed in the future
Because this was never about your health
Since Day 1, this hysteria was about control and only about control.
A 99% survival rate means that 1 in every hundred people doesn't survive. It would mean that out of a population the size of the USA's, 3,348,423 people will die as the disease becomes endemic. So, you might want to revise your baseless percentile.
Also, the government already pretty much had control over any individual they wanted, prior to the pandemic. And, after the pandemic there will be more people like you, who distrust your government, so their plan couldn't give them any extra control. It was a fairly stupid thing to do from the 'get-go', costing lots of money, time, and resource, and giving them nothing.
You might want to revise your baseless statements.
What, about how percentages work?
No government (aside from communists) had ever before used "lockdowns"
That is pure nonsense.
In chapter 13 of book of Leviticus in the Bible, written about 3,000 years ago, has rules for isolating people with a number of diseases.
In Jesus' day, 1,000 years later, there are writings in the gospels about lepers that were isolated from the community and were forced to carry notifications for those who were well to keep away. Lepers tended then to exist in isolated colonies, something that continued right up to the 19th century, and even in America.
During the plague of Justininan in about 500 AD, areas affected by the plague were partitioned off from general public access and historians made special note of how only the Christians had the charity to give special aid to those in disease ridden areas, while most Roman officialdom kept well away.
In 1346, the Italian government implemented health policies in response to the black plague which closed sea ports, limited the travel of citizens between plague cities, and had restrictions to stop people congregating in crowds. Venice and Ragusa were the first cities to lock down and isolate in this way.
The book, The Decameron, written in late 1348, is about 10 citizens of Florence who escape the Black death ravaging their city, to the countryside, where they isolate for 10 days, and tell each other stories for entertainment.
Although during the first wave of the 1918 'Spanish' flu there was no official lock-down policy, 100 years later after a resurgence of the flu, theaters, churches, cinemas, dance-halls and other places where people congregated were closed down for months and people were encouraged to stay isolated indoors. Authorities also sprayed disinfectant and advised everyone to wear face masks.
Similarly, there have been lock-downs for Typhoid and Cholera in recent history.
Then there were the lock-downs after 911, where planes weren't allowed to fly and travel was curtailed, and there were curfews and other deprivations. Nothing to do with disease, but the response to the terrorist threat to the US was to lock-down.
, forcible house arrest for it's own population which had no impact on health but are DIRECTLY responsible for NEVER BEFORE SEEN:
- supply chain breakdowns
- employee shortages
- good shortage
- start of at least some food item shortage
- goverments printing never before amount of money
- resultant long term inflation
It did give more power to governments which were very reluctant to give back that power ( ex: travel measures, even when Covid largely over)
All of these additional points have occurred and to much higher levels throughout history, and are mostly unrelated to the COVID-19 pandemic.
COVID-19 isn't over. More people are infected in 2022 than there were in 2020.
Also, please explain how limitations on air travel and a weakened economy are of advantage to a government?