Chris Evans Homophobic Lightyear Critics Are ‘Idiots’ Who Will ‘Die Off Like Dinosaurs’

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: DBCowboy

Every movie has to have minorities, BLT representation, etc.

Now I'm offended there is BLT in movie. That is not halal.

I thought Halal was that computer in "2001 A Space Odyssey".

I didn't know it was gay.

Are the Pixar movies even that popular anymore? the last few I saw were meh, with or without the PC tropes. Coco is the most recent non sequel 50 million opening weekend Pixar movie and that was 2017. 68 million is the average Pixar opening weekend only one post 2014 non sequel reaches that and it was "Inside Out" in 2015 now 7 years ago.


It doesn't bother me too much now and even when our kids were younger though if they wanted to see a Pixar movie we would have probably watched it.

They are doing it now for the buzz it creates, the paradox is this movement won't be considered normal, till every LBGTQ scene isn't presented as some half-baked milestone for the cause.

Shortly, I liked the days when there were LGBT film festivals and art-house venues set aside at cinemas for more adult content.
Although a lot of those movies were actually quite boring, and you had to sit a long time for a kiss or a bare bottom. Mostly it was students and pensioners who had the patience and time for it.

Although concerning Saudi Arabia, I'm waiting for a Disney interpretation of this topic:



Of course Apartheid South Africa pre-1994 was highly into censorship, and the political power was Calvinist (the NGK, or in English, Dutch Reformed Church).
This led to situations where soldiers who had seen dead and burning bodies in the Border War being turned away from cinemas, because Women In Love had a 2-21 age restriction, and they were only 18.
Although the main banned movie of that era was The Passion of the Christ, which had two art-house screenings, both of which were attacked by Christian fundamentalists with stink-bombs.
Although some theologians argued it wasn't really blasphemous at all.
I just recalled it was so boring, I fell asleep when I saw it a bit later.

Although as far as adult jokes and overlooked moments in Disney cartoons, and homoerotic mainstream movie moments - that's nothing new.
There's entire collections of the stuff on YouTube going back to the 1950's.

On Islamic film, there was an issue regarding a Shia film titled Lady Of Heaven which was largely banned by Sunni protestors recently in Britain.
I haven't seen any of the latest films in question, just sharing the debates about them.


So here Western culture (albeit individual cinemas, not necessarily, or blatantly the state) is asked to make a censorship decision based on sectarian interests in a majority non-Western religion.

Oh well, a kiss is just a kiss ... a beheading on the other hand.
No, let's capitulate.

But then again the real reason we never got a World War Z Two is apparently because the Chinese Communist Party told Hollywood they didn't want any more movies with ghosts and zombies.

Yep, heterosexual people will eventually die off like dinosaurs. It's not like they can reproduce or anything.

originally posted by: vNex92
In Other Words Chris Evans says Critics are Idiots who will eventually die off like dinosaurs

No.

Only homophobic ones

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: DBCowboy

Every movie has to have minorities, BLT representation, etc.

Now I'm offended there is BLT in movie. That is not halal.

I thought Halal was that computer in "2001 A Space Odyssey".

I didn't know it was gay.

Im like Patrice O'Neal I should care but I just don't

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: vNex92

Well there's a theory that societies by default evolve towards personal freedom.
And there's no reason why that shouldn't be true. Actually we should thrive for that.

Homosexuality is not a recent invention by the liberal parts of the USA. Some Egyptian pharao had a story about him climbing through the window of his favourite general.
Men have always preferred the company of other men. Even the straightest guy longs for bis buddy to share a beer and BBQ. All men have at least latent homosexual feelings.
The bond of the ditch.
War especially has a tendency to create a homoerotic atmosphere.
During peace it manifests more in domination games, like who's best at the job, karate, drinking, ... whathaveyou. Also always has at least homoerotic undertones.
The question is not really is someone gay, ie enjoying the company of men over women, because that's like 95%. The true rarity, and often only for while the offspring is still dependent, is how many men enjoy the company of women more than of men.

You can fight that, but you can't win.
If the whole world would turn right wing and you guys get your wet dream and are dominated by this strong, powerful, sexy man you've always wanted, it will collapse again and again.
Because it's frustrating even to the most romantic loyal follower eventually.
Procrastination rather sooner than later always leads to indifference. And that means people shut down, stagnation, the only creative output you get is from outside.
While all those strong sexy power men, like Putin, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, or your bishop enjoy their pick among the young and willing of their flock. Or the most nasty of their opponents if they got a more sadistic bent.

Always has been that way, probably always will.
The recent hype around it from the bible folks and Russian trolls like you is just because they got in their head that their numbers will dwindle if it's normal part of the freedom package society allows. A conspiracy as old as homosexuality and just false.
Because man actually do have a procreation drive stronger than women even if somewhat more subconscious.
So just chill. Stick your thumb in your mouth and imagine it's Putin.

What's going to happen is we will take back a step of the globalisation and liberalisation in movement we enjoyed for the last 30-50 years or so. And you know what will happen?
The West will prosper due to creativity from liberty.
And the East and the South will super quickly be at below dirtass poor superfast again.
You know why?
Lack of personal freedom always leads towards stagnation. No matter what the reasons for it are.

Shields up Mr Sulu. If we all need a quick reminder why Russia and China and Arabia and Africa needed that much foreign money to get on their feet.... fine.

well said!

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: vNex92
At the end of the day there are those LGBT folks that also came through from straight families as well.

I have no idea what this comment means. Presumably families do not have a sexual preference collectively. If they do it's probably not legal.

He's right. Getting upset over gays or anything else that's mostly a private matter is silly. I have no idea if that's the case in this movie, but if they aren't acting inappropriately on screen there's more harm in focusing on it than ignoring it.

I have no issue with gay, trans, whatever on whichever spectrum.

The issue is the obsession with projecting it on children in ways that are inappropriate, aka fetish shows, or intrusive to their normal life. There is no need for overt sexuality to be shoehorned into otherwise non-sexual things.

People can be gay in movies. That shouldn't be an identity though. People shouldn't be making what they happen to be, gay trans boy girl nonbinary, into who they are. This is the message they're sending to kids. Like gay is an identity, the most important facet of your being behind color. It's not, nor is gender or race. We're all people and some of us are gay or trans or whatever the hell we want to be. Some are different colors. Some have different cultural beliefs. We're all still people and unique even within our groups.

It's so bizarre that this movement in Hollywood does the exact opposite of what they claim their goal is and the victim groups support it. We're told race, sexuality, gender, all don't matter. Simultaneously we're being inundated with crappy and lazy mary- sue characters in media who's only real quirky traits are belonging to a victim group. It doesn't matter or it does. It can't be both, which is what the progressive movement has mastered. There is a complete disconnect between neoprogressivism and reality.

The proliferation of minoroity status as a substitute for character development is merely a more sophisticated form of blackface. These people, human beings who happen to have some minority status, are reduced to memes and inserted into places they don't belong.

I'm sure somebody will have an issue with this, likely somebody that's not a member of any of these groups. I don't care. I would tell them to talk to some artists who happen to be gay or trans or whatever, that haven't made it their artistic identity, and you'll probably find they can't get anybody to promote their material. They're essentially telling artists their work isn't good enough if it isn't gay enough or trans or black or ? enough. It's dumb.

so Captain america likes gay kissing?

it must be ok.

thor transitioned. i always thought it would be loki.

did the hulk give iron man monkey pox?

a reply to: sarahvital

Wait till you see the new ET reboot. Breaking down all the barriers 😎

I think in the past with some Disney, cartoon and even movies like ET was that they aimed for a dual audience.

Both the kids obviously, but also the adults who had to take them to the cinema.

So yeah, there were some jokes only adults would get, and it was assumed that kids at that time were simply to "innocent" to catch them.
And we were.

Back then the point was simply not to bore either the kids or their adult minders.
And it largely worked.

Now with ET at the time the main problem I recall was the volunteer mom dropping off 4 boys who were all crying inconsolably.

I recall getting home, and I was blubbering all the way to bed.
And my parents thought I watched some war movie, and I'm never to go to the cinema again.
Meanwhile I cried because ET and the boy lost each other as friends.
Well, try and explain that to somebody who didn't see it at the time.

Only later did I see in an American Christian book that the term "p****-breath" was used in the film, but this was cut from the SA edition.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Ksihkehe

He's right. Getting upset over gays or anything else that's mostly a private matter is silly.

Getting upset and suggesting like that Straight people/Straight families would die like Die Off Like Dinosaurs is an over reaction and Hollywood is showing who they are trying aim for.

Pulling strings for the agenda just look at how they are trying to push the children into drag shows.

I'm not giving Variety a click, but I agree with him. People getting upset about gays will fade away. It's been fading away. It would probably be gone if not for this push to use it as a wedge, like race. Liking his overall sentiment or wrapping it up with drag shows for kids doesn't change the truth of his statement.

What is a "straight family"?

Can you explain this?

Is there a family meeting where they vote or are you just meaning parents who's religious dogma makes them think they should force some expectations on their children? If so, just say religious.

Assigning a sexuality to a family unit is really weird, borderline creepy. If nothing else, it doesn't make sense.

E.T. - Henry Thomas audition for E.T.

The alien's my friend ... bugger off!
Although a bit "Puff the Magic Dragon" in retrospect.
I mean the trope is archetypal.

a reply to: sarahvital

so Captain america likes gay kissing?

They always start with something as a simple scene at first.

A small percentage of the population urging the majority of the rest of the population that they must accept their content? the more they use intimidation agaisnt such population.

Dude needs to pick up a biology book.
a reply to: vNex92

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

As someone who really likes cinema this is the way I look at it: does it advance the plot, yes or no?

When we look at a percentage of like 7% of the population for gays and like .0001 for trans every cinema event doesn't need a gay or trans plotline, but I do understand it. Hollywood in general has a very high percentage of gay and sexually progressive people, so that is the world they see and live in and it leaks into all their work. There was a syfy series where everyone was anything but straight. Had 2 guys, Jewish and Italian, on 1 Spanish girl then after the girl was tired the guys kept going with each other, had a trans Asian doctor, had a fat Spanish gay guy in love with the trans doctor who didn't really like him, had the Spanish dike lesbian, and a Black guy Robot. Ship's captain was straight and White female and was so in love with her husband and child, but had a relationship with a Korean guy.

The only person that was straight and sexually normal was the White guy asshole with a rich daddy. Everyone was getting some, but he was punished for being rich and got nothing...lol My wife at one point asked WTF are we watching...lol

I really don't think this type of situation is outside of Hollywood normal...

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

It's so bizarre that this movement in Hollywood does the exact opposite of what they claim their goal is and the victim groups support it. We're told race, sexuality, gender, all don't matter. Simultaneously we're being inundated with crappy and lazy mary- sue characters in media who's only real quirky traits are belonging to a victim group. It doesn't matter or it does. It can't be both, which is what the progressive movement has mastered. There is a complete disconnect between neoprogressivism and reality.

The proliferation of minoroity status as a substitute for character development is merely a more sophisticated form of blackface. These people, human beings who happen to have some minority status, are reduced to memes and inserted into places they don't belong.

I'm sure somebody will have an issue with this, likely somebody that's not a member of any of these groups. I don't care. I would tell them to talk to some artists who happen to be gay or trans or whatever, that haven't made it their artistic identity, and you'll probably find they can't get anybody to promote their material. They're essentially telling artists their work isn't good enough if it isn't gay enough or trans or black or ? enough. It's dumb.

As someone peripherally involved in one of the creative fields, I can tell you that this is 100% accurate. In publishing, it's an absolute obsession now to sign and publish work from ANYONE with an oppressed sticker stuck to their bottom, no matter the quality of the work. That work is then highlighted and promoted first and above all else. And guess what? It doesn't help sell the mediocre work even one little bit; and the good or superior work? It sells anyway. Because it's good. I'd actually argue that the "Special Me" spotlight actually turns many readers away, even from the good stuff. It's a signal that the book will have an agenda that more than likely interferes with the core greatness of a work of art. And in my admittedly limited indie experience, the best writers don't want to have anything to do with it, but rather wish to throw their hat into the ring without a special sticker advantage.

It's my understanding that he said critics of the lesbian kiss, i.e. people he regards as bigoted against gays, will die off like the dinosaurs, not heterosexual people in general. How he expects that bigoted people will somehow stop breeding, I do not know. Perhaps he's making a genocidal statement against bigots? a reply to: vNex92

I think Wahlberg is quite wrong; a lot of people apparently give a lot of crap about actors and everything they do and think, particularly the young generations that are someday supposed to step up and take the reins. Even politicians these days are actors, with the country being run like a reality tv show. a reply to: LSU2018

The fact that alphabets don't procreate is probably why they're driving recruitment in elementary school.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: DBCowboy

Every movie has to have minorities, BLT representation, etc.

Now I'm offended there is BLT in movie. That is not halal.

I thought Halal was that computer in "2001 A Space Odyssey".

I didn't know it was gay.

is that the one that refused to open the pod bay door?

yeah, acting like a little bitch.

makes me wonder about the google lambada AI.