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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: carewemust
I think republicans make actually have a shot to take everything if they distanced themselves from people like Mitch and Trump. M.A.G.A. is far too TRUMP obsessed.
Trump failed to drain the swamp and his four years was filled with trolling and controversy.
And feel free to disagree and say Trump was great. That doesn't matter because half the country dislikes him. Controversy and division is going to get the country nowhere. And Trump has all of that surrounding him.
If republicans could get a middle ground going and kick out the corrupt old timers. Meanwhile, if Trump had any true desire to Make American Great Again, then he would not run again and give support to Republicans who want to work together with moderate democrats who want a better American. Not political agendas and war.
MAGA is not Trump obsessed. That is a mistake too many liberals make in thinking. Trump started MAGA and the part of this country that cares about the US and its people agree with it. We are MAGA obsessed, and that is a good thing. Making America Great Again is a good thing to be obsessed with. There would be no MAGA without Trump and he did make strides in that direction. Its too bad he had to spend so much of his time defending himself against every dirty trick in the book pulled by democrats or he could have accomplished so much more. Especially if those democrats, who whine constantly about republicans who never reach across the aisle, had reached across the aisle.
As for moderate democrats - there is no such thing except in name. Liberalism is a constant never ending shift to the left. In order to be considered liberal, especially progressive, you must constantly march to the left on a never ending migration toward a more liberal ideology. To be happy where you are and not seek further change is the definition of conservative. Even if a liberal felt that way they would be eaten alive by their own kind for being a traitor to the agenda.
This constant migration to the left is why what used to be extremist liberals are now considered to be mainstream or even moderate. They haven't changed as individuals, the whole liberal scale has shifted to the left making their position, previously on the fringe, appear more central. The fringe or extremist liberal of today will eventually be considered mainstream or moderate as the scale of liberalism continues its never ending march to the left. That is why each successive generation of liberal seems more and more unhinged and detached from reality. Liberalism began as social programs for the needy. Now its drag queen story time for 5 year olds, and men can get pregnant...
originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: shooterbrody
what's a woman?
Shouldn't it just be People Of Color?
/s
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy
I have no idea why you leftists want America not to be great.
Again
Make America Great Again
So when, exactly, was the period of time we're trying to get back to again? The 1950s, before The Civil Rights Act, before a women could get credit without a man's signature and before it was illegal for a man to rape his wife?
I'm a progressive. I want to Make America Better than ever.
originally posted by: sarahvital
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy
I have no idea why you leftists want America not to be great.
Again
Make America Great Again
So when, exactly, was the period of time we're trying to get back to again? The 1950s, before The Civil Rights Act, before a women could get credit without a man's signature and before it was illegal for a man to rape his wife?
I'm a progressive. I want to Make America Better than ever.
no, you leftists' want to make the usa in your own image the ultra lgbqrst+ gay tranny woked everything, rainbows and uiicorns. you know 8 yo girt stuff. a pony in every garage.
Ultra MAGA TRON is trump.
ulra maga is a time of rosebud, casablanca, the ugly american.
san juan hill, the civil war. 40 acres and a mule.
the alamo. trail of tears, moon landing.
WW1+2, china towns, little italy's, markets for every ethnicity
when people knew what woman is. when God was The power and in all lives. family started with mom and dad, not my two dads or two moms.
the rule of law meant something no matter who you are.
when we could make everything we needed as a country, energy, tech, schools were top. and focus was learning to be productive. borders tat were open if you came the right way.
originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: shooterbrody
what's a woman?
Shouldn't it just be People Of Color?
/s
It's about small government, low taxes, secure borders, a strong foreign policy, taking care of our vets . . . . . .
- June 17, 1932: U.S. Senate defeated a bill that would have advanced the date of payment of bonuses to the veterans. Two veterans and two D.C. police officers die in the ensuing protest.
- July 29, 1932: On the order of President Hoover, through Sec. of War Hurley, U.S. Army troops commanded by Maj. George S. Patton attack the veterans forcing them from their encampments and effectively ending the crisis. A total of 55 veterans were injured and another 135 were arrested.
Fallout:
- President Hoover was defeated by Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1932 presidential election.
- Roosevelt immediately reserved jobs for 25,000 WWI veterans in his New Deal program.
- In January 1936, WWI veterans were paid over $2 billion in promised combat bonuses.
originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: Vroomfondel
When one doesn't have any criticism about Trump and says all democrats are bad whats the point of arguing?
You say maga is not trump obssessed but you guys treat him as an infallible leader and you say you want change, but really you just want democrats to lose.
Republicans FLIP the 2nd Largest Hispanic District in the USA from BLUE to RED - 6.14.2022.
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: carewemust
If we have fair elections and not fraudulent mail in voting this time around.
originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: DBCowboy
Lol ok.. obama was about change and hope. Do you not want change and hope!?!!!
MAGA is a slogan created by Trump and team.
Your argument is childish and everyone knows maga is a political movement, not a virtous patriotic non partisan ideology.