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Noam Chomsky called insanity the suppression of the words of Lavrov in the United States

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posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 04:16 AM
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Hello ATS!

The American historian, philosopher and linguist Noam Chomsky, in an interview with Massachusetts Peace Action, seeing how the United States is blocking information that does not coincide with the position of Washington, called what is happening "pure madness."



"Why can't we know what they are saying?" the expert asked.

As an example, he cited the recent statement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov regarding the food crisis in the world. The Minister told how to solve the problem. But the Americans did not find out about this, and Chomsky had to look for information on the Al Jazeera website.



"The situation with Ukrainian grain has nothing to do with the food crisis," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said after talks with his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu.

According to the Russian minister, the EU is drawing a "catastrophe on a global scale" from this situation. At the same time, the share of Ukrainian grain in question is "less than 1% of the global production of wheat and other cereals," Lavrov stressed.

He also noted that if Ukraine is ripe to resolve the issue with the export of grain, then Russia will be happy to cooperate."


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"People in the US should be aware of what is happening," - said Noam Chomsky.

Want to add. Literally today, I received a comment from one ATS user, in which he tried to refute my words that now the peoples of Russia are united as never before. He motivated his disagreement with me by the fact that he sees only Russian oppositionists on YouTube and therefore believes that all Russians in Russia are oppositionists.

Of course, if you watch YouTube, there will be no other opinion. Just because YouTube, like Twitter, and Facebook, and Instagram and many other platforms simply block all accounts, opinions and videos that are objectionable to Washington. They are simply not there. In all Western countries, all Russian news agencies and TV are blocked. Therefore, I can state that YouTube and Western mainstream media have defeated this ATS-er.

Interestingly, Twitter and Facebook are blocked in Russia for numerous violations of Russian law. Google constantly pays multi-million dollar fines based on Russian court decisions. He suffers, but pays and continues to pay. Apparently they think it's better to pay than to keep the law and give people freedom of speech. In the West, of course, nothing is known about this, that Google constantly pays fines to Russia. Let him pay.

Such is the freedom of speech in the West.

Thank you.



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

There can be no peace in the world when peace itself threatens the USA's global hegemony. Constant war and threat of war is the American way and if not present must be created. It is a cancer on the world and should be dismantled. All the nations of the world should unite and stand against this tyranny.



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 05:14 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

In all Western countries, all Russian news agencies and TV are blocked.


I've just logged on to;

-Russia Today
-The Moscow Times
-Pravda
-Meduza
-Russia Insider

Any more you want me to try?



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 05:24 AM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

VPN has not been canceled yet)))

EU authorities decide to ban RT

"Don't be like them."


edit on 14-6-2022 by RussianTroll because: Add


The Moscow Times, Pravda, Meduza, Russia Insider are opposition media, whose editorial offices are located outside Russia.
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posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 05:32 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

I don't have a VPN.

What else you got?

Edit to address your edit: Russia Today still worked. You also claimed all Russian news agencies and TV are blocked in the West. So I'll ask again, what other ones do you want me to try? Or do you just want to admit now that you made a grand statement, were incorrect and your government blocks more websites than mine?
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posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 05:37 AM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I wrote above about the ban on RT in Europe.

Russia n TV channel RT ceases operations in the US



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 05:42 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I wrote above about the ban on RT in Europe.

Russia n TV channel RT ceases operations in the US



And I'm ecstatic for you, truly. But this is what you said;


originally posted by: RussianTroll

In all Western countries, all Russian news agencies and TV are blocked.


Additionally, the title of that link says RT ceased operations in the US.

The holes getting deeper, you can show a tiny bit of humility and admit you made a grand and incorrect statement or keep digging. Happy to throw you a hand to pull you up on to some common ground or provide an extra shovel to help you keep digging.
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posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 05:45 AM
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originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I wrote above about the ban on RT in Europe.

Russia n TV channel RT ceases operations in the US



And I'm ecstatic for you, truly. But this is what you said;


originally posted by: RussianTroll

In all Western countries, all Russian news agencies and TV are blocked.


Additionally, the title of that link says RT ceased operations in the US.

The holes getting deeper, you can show a tiny bit of humility and admit you made a grand and incorrect statement or keep digging. Happy to throw you a hand to pull you up on to some common ground or provide an extra shovel to help you keep digging.


If you read only the headlines, and you are too lazy to read the text itself, then these are only your problems.


On March 1, DirecTV, the largest satellite television operator in the United States, announced that it was being removed from its RT America network, Axios reported. Before this decision, the National Association of Broadcasters of the United States, against the backdrop of events in Ukraine, called for the cessation of broadcasting all programs "related to the Russian government or its agents."

At the end of February, a ban on RT broadcasting was announced in the European Union. “The state-owned Russia Today and Sputnik, as well as their subsidiaries, will no longer be able to spread their lies,” said Ursula von der Leyen, head of the European Commission.

Later, Google and Apple announced the blocking of RT and Sputnik applications in Europe.


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posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 06:02 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I wrote above about the ban on RT in Europe.

Russia n TV channel RT ceases operations in the US



And I'm ecstatic for you, truly. But this is what you said;


originally posted by: RussianTroll

In all Western countries, all Russian news agencies and TV are blocked.


Additionally, the title of that link says RT ceased operations in the US.

The holes getting deeper, you can show a tiny bit of humility and admit you made a grand and incorrect statement or keep digging. Happy to throw you a hand to pull you up on to some common ground or provide an extra shovel to help you keep digging.


If you read only the headlines, and you are too lazy to read the text itself, then these are only your problems.


On March 1, DirecTV, the largest satellite television operator in the United States, announced that it was being removed from its RT America network, Axios reported. Before this decision, the National Association of Broadcasters of the United States, against the backdrop of events in Ukraine, called for the cessation of broadcasting all programs "related to the Russian government or its agents."

At the end of February, a ban on RT broadcasting was announced in the European Union. “The state-owned Russia Today and Sputnik, as well as their subsidiaries, will no longer be able to spread their lies,” said Ursula von der Leyen, head of the European Commission.

Later, Google and Apple announced the blocking of RT and Sputnik applications in Europe.


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There it is, the ever predictable insult from someone who's made a grand claim, been corrected and can't accept it. That's ok though I'm not offended.

I've never disagreed with you about the US and EU may or may not be banning, this is what I disuputed (and provided a reasonable and growing list of examples where you were incorrect);


originally posted by: RussianTroll

In all Western countries, all Russian news agencies and TV are blocked.


I'm in the a 'Western' country and can access multiple Russian news agencies.



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I already wrote to you that all the agencies you mentioned, except for RT, are outside Russia, they are oppositional Meduza - not a Russian agency at all, but a Latvian agency from the day it was founded.

There are many agencies in the world that work in English, but this does not mean that they are all from Britain or the USA.



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 06:24 AM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I Live in Sydney and most people i know,when asked, are we East or West , they response i hear is....

Nah Mate where Aussies......

Now yes we are classed as a western country , but only because of British Colonialism

We are not part of Western Europe..

We are South........ But your just being pedantic, as you know what the OP was meaning

Stay Safe

Riouz



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: Riouz5

About the hemispheres. Recently, Biden said that the Western Hemisphere is the most democratic of all the other hemispheres in the world.

I, frankly, fell into a stupor. Will Biden order all the balls in the world to consist of many hemispheres? And how many hemispheres are there on Earth?)))




posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 07:02 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Chomsky wasn't such a fan of human rights for COVID, but he has a problem with foreign news being blocked?

He can take a long walk off a short pier.

I haven't watched this video and I disagree with blocking news, but I can think of no reason to listen to what he perceives as the injustices of the West after he advocated for starving out the unvaccinated. He's not qualified to inform me about right and wrong. He's scum.

If you want him he's all yours. I don't agree with blocking news in my country, but as I have respected not dictating to you what is right and wrong for your country I'm a little irritated you feel you can do it to mine and exponentially more irritated you did it with this scumbag.

You're likely teetering on the edge of losing any support you have here. None of the knuckleheads that you're constantly arguing with will care about this and the people that are following for your otherwise great information will likely be put off by Chomsky.



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: Ksihkehe

Hello! I also disagree with Chomsky on many occasions, as well as with Baudrillard and other left-wing philosophers. But I admit that Chomsky is a great philosopher, and he almost never changed his principles. Therefore, I respect him. He does not change his principles because of external conjuncture.



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 07:37 AM
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Lavrov is notoriously unreliable though. I can see why people start to ignore him more and more.



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 08:08 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTrollIn all Western countries, all Russian news agencies and TV are blocked.


If I google TASS, I get this:

tass.com...

Is it fake then? Or is TASS no longer an official state-owned Russian news agency?



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 08:13 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Ksihkehe

Hello! I also disagree with Chomsky on many occasions, as well as with Baudrillard and other left-wing philosophers. But I admit that Chomsky is a great philosopher, and he almost never changed his principles. Therefore, I respect him. He does not change his principles because of external conjuncture.

His principles were that society should cast out the unvaccinated and let them starve. It appears to me he was wide open to propaganda. He does not have my respect. If you're trying to convince me of something it's completely irrelevant who you have respect for. It's who I have respect for that matters.

If his principles didn't change to get to his conclusion, then he was more of a scumbag than I thought for longer than I thought.

I'd prefer to believe at one time he wasn't a scared and senile old man who cares more about the rest of his short pathetic life than the children of his nation. I will keep that thought of him and afford him more dignity than he wished to afford me.
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posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: RussianTroll

Chomsky wasn't such a fan of human rights for COVID, but he has a problem with foreign news being blocked?

He can take a long walk off a short pier.

I haven't watched this video and I disagree with blocking news, but I can think of no reason to listen to what he perceives as the injustices of the West after he advocated for starving out the unvaccinated. He's not qualified to inform me about right and wrong. He's scum.

If you want him he's all yours. I don't agree with blocking news in my country, but as I have respected not dictating to you what is right and wrong for your country I'm a little irritated you feel you can do it to mine and exponentially more irritated you did it with this scumbag.

You're likely teetering on the edge of losing any support you have here. None of the knuckleheads that you're constantly arguing with will care about this and the people that are following for your otherwise great information will likely be put off by Chomsky.

Agreed 100%.

Chomsky's silence during covid, then slagging the unvaccinated, shows his position clearly. He's a complete sell out. Unfortunate waste of an alternative voice that had enough cred to actually get to be a heard. You might be right and he may not have changed his principles. I don't remember well enough but my impressions of long ago was that he stood up for the oppressed. There were a number of voices I had expected we'd hear from but, instead, crickets these last years. They could have been completely censored as much as I was.

I don't agree with the censorship anywhere. Just wish people worldwide could see the level to which we are all being played, but they never will as survival means the work treadmill keeps going faster to keep up with inflation, falling into bed dead tired at the end of a day with half an hour news propaganda to mull over in the dreams at night. We are not living life as it's supposed to be.



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

Clearly he's talking about media that touts news and information that is in line with theRussian government's take on things from within Russia, not just anything with the "Russia" in it.

You see, IAMALLYETALLIAM, there's this little thing called CONTEXT. Merriam-Webster defines CONTEXT as follows:


the parts of a discourse that surround a word or passage and can throw light on its meaning


Maybe you should show a tiny bit of humility and admit that you need to work on your reading comprehension.



posted on Jun, 14 2022 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Ksihkehe

So, Chomsky is a chump. But, as the old saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day. The fact that Chomsky said this does not in any way invalidate the truth of it. What's being focused on here is not Chomsky's integrity or consistency, but censorship of dissenting voices in the US media.

A thread disgusting Chomsky's inconsistencies and lack of integrity might be called for. Want to start one? But whether you like Chomsky is not the issue here; you can think him a complete anal orifice and still agree with him on this issue. Personal attacks in regards to philosophical issues expose small minds.



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