The west, at least the people or majority of us do NOT want to harm Russia or it's people, all we want is for Russia to live in peace with us and it's
neighbours.
BUT there are a strong core of people in many nations that DO hate Russia, some with a passion, most of these are in former Soviet occupied states
that were annexed after WW2 by the Soviet's and had puppet governments installed.
For those people the Soviet union is a very recent memory and one they do not want to ever be placed under again.
Then there are nations that had traditional war with Russia AND the Ukraine, nations that were raided by Cossacks for example and for some of those
nation's they see the Russians and the Cossack's (mostly of Ukraine not Russia I know) in a similar light to how more southerly eastern nations see
the Turk's, with suspicion and a long traditional hatred born of conflict and past crimes.
BUT here is the crux of that with the Exception of the US were Soviet Russia was ingrained through anti communist propaganda and ideology as THE
enemy to be feared and fought during the cold war (not so much in western Europe though we did see Russia at that time as an oppressive and cruel
state BUT hardly any of us though badly of the Russian people so remember that) anti Russian sentiment is mostly in central eastern European states,
those that were invaded, had history of conflict with and were oppressed by Russia.
However remember Russia was not necessarily the bad guy at those times, many times the invasions, raid's and worse happened the other way around and
it was Russia and it's villages that were attacked.
But also remember that Russia is not unique, every nation in Europe even those whom are close friends today was invaded by it's neighbours, Britain
even though we are an Island is no exception though once we built a strong navy we were able to stop that, the last successful invasion that I know of
was a Dutch invasion in 1688, it was not to conquer our country but over a matter of succession if I Recall, then there was a failed invasion by the
French in 1797 when a Welsh Woman Thwarted the French invasion though that was only a small one of 1400 men.
But for many nations in that region the history is much more recent.
The age of Empire despite claims and name calling the US Calling it an empire has mostly past, Russia sadly however seems hell bent on restoring ITS
empire BUT is it Russia or just one man and his cliques dream of becoming an emperor in all but name.
Every age it seems has it's Nero who will burn down HIS Rome to build his fantasy of a greater one, a dream that never succeeds.
The truth is the Russians though broadly brainwashed by there state media propaganda engine are Victims in this just as the Ukrainians are.
There ARE Neo Nazis in the Ukraine that is a fact, BANDERA was an utterly despicable man and he and his followers committed some truly appalling
crimes during the WAR when they sided with the Germans BUT it is also a fact that today there are probably MORE Neo Nazi's in Russia.
The other sad truth is this, they are the same people Russians and Ukrainians, they have a slightly different language and history but Russia BEGAN
in the Ukraine and is arguable a Colony OF the Ukraine, they have split before then got back together over the course of there history but that is
mainly ancient history.
The world has been drawn into what is basically a family fight, ok so it's not a nice family fight with Kid's being raped and murdered and yes it is
not propaganda by badly disciplined Russian soldiers and civilians regularly being murdered by them.
But remember the Ukraine has it's own rapists and murderers and if they were the once invading Russia we would see the same atrocity's because they
are the SAME bloody people, different accents and regional dialect but the same, Russia and the Ukraine have not been democracy's for very long and in
fact BOTH of them are arguably NOT democracy's as they both have had a history of democracy being overthrown or undermined by powerful interests, in
the Ukraine a democratically elected leader was overthrown by a coup that Russia claimed was staged and backed by western powers, meanwhile in Russia
Elections have been rigged and political opponents of the sitting government have been imprisoned (But only when they were a serous challenger and
posed a real threat of taking power).
Should we really be getting involved in EITHER of these unstable country's or should we welcome a new Iron Curtain to keep them out?.
After all it is only really the Elite that gain from having them fall in line, the rest of us were doing perfectly fine without them.
During WW2 the Ukrainian Nationalists under Bandera targeted ethnic minority's inside the Ukraine including Polish whom had lived there forever since
borders between the two country's had often been fluid in the past, the perpetrated horrific acts against them and butchered baby's and hung the
children's body's on trees, do WE really want to help people that WORSHIP Bandera?.
justiceforpolishvictims.org...
inian-nationalists/
justice4poland.com...
Remember whom we are giving weapons to, is this the right choice or in truth should we just NOT be involved?.
Now remember the Russians are NO better, they did the same exact things time and again mostly during Pogrom's.
I pray for peace between them, for the innocent victims killed by Russia AND for the innocent Russian conscripts that have been thrown into this war
often without there mother's knowledge, for the family's on both sides as they spill there own family's blood.
But I believe that we can not FORCE peace upon them, only the Almighty can and it has to come from God or else one side or the other has to win,
trying to fix it from outside is merely creating the danger of a far more unstable world and a much more dangerous future for everyone.
YES Sanctions are justified but is it right for us to intervene in ANY other way, I have my doubt's.
I think we need a NEW Iron Curtain to maintain the peace and let Russia stew in it's own, it's in the hands of the Russian people to retrieve there
nation from there tyrants and if they don't want to then why should we, let them live with there choice.
But if they step one foot over into the territory of any NATO nation or for that matter Finland or Sweden even if Turkey's veto does block them from
becoming members then we will be FORCED to take action, Russia will LOSE OUTRIGHT but we will suffer terribly simple as that, we could demolish there
conventional forces in week's but they have gone FULL Weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION, so it's back to MAD as far as I am concerned, we need to prepare
for a war I hope we never have to fight but if we do we need to win it FAST and that is to ensure the utter destruction of Russia.
But with there NERO in charge maybe that is exactly what he WANTS.
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