After you fast, you realize how bad our food is

I had a little bout of food poisoning over the Memorial Day weekend.

I basically just drank bone broth and had some crackers for a few days. A fast really helps reset the system.

Today I was feeling a lot better and I decided to have a little turkey sandwich.
I kid you not, that sandwich tasted like pure SUGAR. It really tasted like the bread was dipped in artificial sweetener.
I have no doubt they are messing with our food. I’ve heard when a lot of foreigners visit the US they ask what is up with our bread, it tastes like cake. Now I know exactly what they are talking about. YUCK!

It makes me wonder, how manipulated is the bread. Is it so bad that they have to disguise the actual flavor?

I’m a very good cook, I’d say well above average. One weakness that I have is bread making. I never really had much of an interest in it. After this week, there is no way I can go back to eating regular bread. Any advice from the seasoned bread makers out there is appreciated.

Also, if you’ve never done a fast, it might be eye opening. It really clears your palate.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
I had a little bout of food poisoning over the Memorial Day weekend.

I basically just drank bone broth and had some crackers for a few days. A fast really helps reset the system.

Today I was feeling a lot better and I decided to have a little turkey sandwich.
I kid you not, that sandwich tasted like pure SUGAR. It really tasted like the bread was dipped in artificial sweetener.
I have no doubt they are messing with our food. I’ve heard when a lot of foreigners visit the US they ask what is up with our bread, it tastes like cake. Now I know exactly what they are talking about. YUCK!

It makes me wonder, how manipulated is the bread. Is it so bad that they have to disguise the actual flavor?

I’m a very good cook, I’d say well above average. One weakness that I have is bread making. I never really had much of an interest in it. After this week, there is no way I can go back to eating regular bread. Any advice from the seasoned bread makers out there is appreciated.

Also, if you’ve never done a fast, it might be eye opening. It really clears your palate.

so does a sorbet`.

a reply to: network dude

I’ve been to my share of fancy restaurants with sorbet palate cleansers, and trust me it is nothing like a fast.

a reply to: JAGStorm
The 'sugar' is high fructose corn syrup.

High fructose corn syrup has crept into more of our foods over the last few decades. Compared with regular sugar, it’s cheaper and sweeter, and is more quickly absorbed into your body. But eating too much high fructose corn syrup can lead to insulin resistance, obesity, type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure.

health.clevelandclinic.org...

a reply to: JAGStorm

Happens with diet changes as well. Several years ago, I changed my diet considerably for the exercise regimen I was undergoing. Almost a year later, after I had lost the weight I wanted and could branch out into other foods as a treat to myself, I decided to have chicken and dumplings. It tasted shockingly sweet to me. As for our bread, typical white breads are pretty sweet. You can also see this in the Japanese milk bread, which is also very cake-like.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I haven't eaten store bought loaf bread in ages. I always say that I'd just as soon eat a napkin.

I was moving away from the crap years ago, but the final straw happened in the employee room of a warehouse where I was working. The manager (a woman whom I never considered to be particularly bright) had left a loaf of plastic wrapped store bought loaf bread on top of the refrigerator and forgotten about it. A couple of weeks later somebody (maybe me) noticed it and called attention to it.

We all figured it'd have been spoiled and mouldy. It wasn't! It was perfectly preserved.

I was appalled, but I remember this dullard of a woman saying, "That must be some really good bread; it didn't even go bad." I replied, "On the contrary! Bacteria and fungus won't eat that crap, but you'll stick it on your mouth and call it good! Seems bacteria have more sense than some people."

Seriously, when bacteria and bugs won't even eat something, that should tell people volumes about the alleged food. it's NOT food! And it's not good! And it's not good for your body.

My wife bakes bread. We usually have access to wheat that is not the GMO stuff they produce in the states.

No, I'll do without before I put that nasty pre-sliced frankenfood in my maw.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
It really tasted like the bread was dipped in artificial sweetener.

Wonder if you got something mis-packaged that was loaded with sweetener.

Anything with with literal candy chunks baked into the crust is not "bread".

I’ve tried fasting for different reasons but it always makes me hangry.

a reply to: gb540
High fructose corn syrup is artificial sweetener.

a reply to: JAGStorm

So a couple of years ago I got hit with Ulcerative Colitis. I was in the hospital for about a week. After I came out. I could taste everything in my food. I can taste food coloring in the foods & drink. And it's just gross and makes me feel bad. If I eat something cooked in vegetable oil. It leaves a funky taste in my mouth and then it feels just foreign in my intestinal tract. Food with too much sugar also makes me feel crappy.

I stopped drinking soda, gatorade or overly sweet drinks. If I want carbonation I stick with beer. I try to stay away from food cooked in vegetable oil. And I check my food for food coloring.

And you're right about the bread. They add some things into the bread to help preserve it. I got myself a bread maker some years ago. It's so easy to just drop the ingredients into the pan and leave it to make overnight and wake up with fresh hot bread. Bread tip. Add a little bit of vinegar in with your ingredients. Adding it to your bread dough can help with good rise, moist crumb, airy texture, and it also enhances the flavor.

There is a kind of bread you can get usually in the grocer’s freezer section. It’s an ancient grains kind of bread, like Ezekiel. You keep it in your freezer, because unlike room temp bread, this stuff is perishable. It doesn’t have any high fructose corn syrup or preservatives. I have bought this kind of bread, and will put it in the toaster to thaw it out. Makes for terrific sandwiches. Much healthier than the room temp crap. Any bread you buy, make sure it states that it doesn’t have high fructose corn syrup, and never eat white bread. That’s all sugar.

I had norovirus a couple of times, and not by choice, but by necessity, I was on a liquid diet for a couple of days. The thought of eating any solid food during that time made me want to hurl. I found that food tasted really good after the fasting. And I ate slowly, because my stomach was telling me to.

a reply to: ChiefD

I do love Ezekiel bread but it is not easy to find here. I bought tofu from the store and another customer put his dirty finger and jiggled the package and asked me what it was. So that gives you a clue to how expansive the food scene is out here.

I think my only option is actually just baking my own.

a reply to: grey580

I stopped drinking soda, gatorade or overly sweet drinks. If I want carbonation I stick with beer. I try to stay away from food cooked in vegetable oil. And I check my food for food coloring.

Yes I can taste food coloring also, it tastes like peppery chemicals.

If you read the ingredients in some plain white breads and it has cellulose in it, that is actually sawdust!

I've always made homemade bread, but must admit I never liked the yeasty flavor- which seems to come from not enough kneading.
I finally got a Kitchenaid mixer which kneads it on low for 10 minutes. BEST BREAD EVER!

I like to experiment with fancy bread recipes, but my tried-and-true one was taught by Grandma: yeast sprinkled on warm water with a t. of sugar; when frothy I add it to flour, with more warm water in which about 1-2T lard has melted and knead the dickens out of it.
It's one of those 'dash of this, pinch of that' recipes that can only be handed down by doing it.

You'll have a hard time eating any other kind of bread now!

a reply to: JAGStorm

I gave up added sugar, sugary drinks, candy, etc a while back. I snack on prunes or a more sweeter fruit if I get a craving. But every once in a while I'll have some root beer with cane sugar and I can barely handle the sweetness of it, and then I crave sugar for about a day or two.

I also noticed after about a year or so of cutting back sweetness from onions, carrots, root veggies, etc really shines in cooking. Sugar took over food, it's hard to find anything in the middle section of a grocery store without tons of sodium nitrates and sugar in it.

I also entered the wonderful world of enjoying wine for its taste and could pair eith foods much easier.

Sugar is the devil.

a reply to: strongfp

I don’t like American candy so I rarely eat it. I do enjoy some Korean and Japanese candy and of course Belgian chocolates. All of which are significantly less sweet than the American counterparts.

Root beer is way too sweet for me. I do like Mexican Coke, but I can’t tolerate caffeine much anymore.

I'm making homemade bread today, it is presently rising. We just got back from the fishhouse here, bought eight and a half pounds of whole whitefish....it went up a buck a pound this year. I got four smaller whitefish, that will be probably be eight meals for the wife. It cost about fifty two bucks.

Also stopped at Menards since we needed vacuum sealing rolls for the filets. Those were twenty bucks, and we got some pectin for jam and a couple of bottles of refined coconut oil. With our thirty dollar rebate it came out to twenty bucks. Then since we were down there already we stopped at the Chinese buffet....It was pretty good, but not at all real food.

We are eating more natural homemade foods. most of commercial stuff has tasted like crap for a while, but people do not taste it because they are so used to it. I remember the old days when a banquet three piece TV dinner actually tasted half way decent, now all the tv dinners taste like crap. We still use shake and bake on oven fried chicken, adding a little sea salt makes it taste like it used to. We buy whole chickens and I cut them up and make broth out of the bones and save a little chicken scraps to make soup out of from trimming the bones.

We just finished making our bone broth last weekend...grass fed organic marrow bones. We made french onion soup out of some and froze about four more quarts of bonebroth to add to our last batch of three quarts for soups throughout the summer. We usually do it when the weather is cool, you don't want to boil bones for eighteen hours in the middle of the summer. Homemade broths taste way better than the canned broths in the store or even the organic broths. Ours are concentrated more than the canned stuff or stuff in cartons you can buy.

We don't eat much store bought junk food anymore, we have time to cook the good stuff. Sure we buy chips and stuff like organic tomatoes and sauces....that muir glen tomato stuff sure is good compared to the commercial stuff, I like it more than hunts....but we can't buy the tomato paste here in muir glen. So we buy hunts or contadina.

Taste is important in choosing food...natural taste from properly cared for products. We will be getting the garden planted this weekend, mostly potatoes, cherry tomatoes, cucumbers, and a few cabbage and rutabagas.

We do not buy all organic, we taste things and if the organic is not much more, we buy organic because many things like carrots taste better organic. Cabbage is better organic but the cost is way more. If you are making soups, commercial is fine, if you are making coleslaw, the organic cabbage has more flavor just like carrots have more flavor.

Glad you figured out how crappy the commercial stuff really is Jagstorm....you can't taste the difference till you get away from it for a while.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Wife is European and I grew up over there- when we shop for bread in the Sates we have to check the labels for corn syrup or high fructose corn syrup like hawks.

The local bread companies around here are really good, but if you just buy whatever you are going to be eating too much sugar.

Same thing with deli meats. Have to find not just the organic ones, but if possible heritage breed and check the ingredients (again).

Due diligence and all that.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Most food you buy in the store now isn't real. It's mostly multiple forms of preservstives and sweeteners.

I've worked in multiple food industries which has lead me to no longer buying food from grocery stores.

I either hunt my food, make my own food, or buy it from people who grow and hunt their own food and sell off their surplus.

I also only eat one meal a day.

I also eat a mostly raw diet. Mostly nuts, fruits, grains and vegetables flowers and such

The only meat I eat for the most part is when I know where it came from and I just so happen to be hungry while I come across it while camping.

Mostly small game like squirrel, the occasional snake or turtle, frogs, crawdads, certain birds and fish, mostly small or medium critters like rabbits, squirrel, and mice.

The only birds I eat are pretty much just duck, grouse, and turkey.

As far as scaley things go I don't tend to eat them, but snake isn't too bad, and neither is gator or turtle if it comes from clean water.

Same goes for frogs and fish. As long as they haven't been living in dirty/tainted ass water. They usually taste fine.

I don't mind eating certain things like crawdads or crab or similar things, but only if I'm hungry or it's polite due to tradition.

I also don't care much for eating predator type animals or larger animals. Too much meat for me, and predators have a weird taste to them. Not bad, just not preferable.

Oh, and the place I currently work is a industrial bread bakery.

The only thing that's real with the bread you buy in the store is the water, flour, yeast, and sometimes honey.

They add like five or six different preservatives and chemicals that make the bread fluffy. They add gluten. They add corn syrup/HFCS. And some other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head.

Just do yourself a favor and make real bread at home. It's not hard.