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2nd Company of the 46th Rifle Battalion

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posted on May, 29 2022 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Kenny2xx
Isn’t Russia only using like 25-30% or their fighting force and equipment? That’s a little alarming that they are taking out NATOs best trained army like this. Also I’m kind of mad we have been led to believe Russia is some incompetent country with old clunky equipment. It’s dangerous to underestimate your enemy like that.


Definitely not NATO's best trained army, lol. That would be the armed forces of actual NATO countries.

Consider Russia's gains versus casualties taken in manpower and equipment since February. You make it sound like Ukraine is getting mopped on the floor and that's not even close to the case.

Disclaimer: I'm not a pro-Ukraine pumper/Russia hater in the keyboard warrior crusade that's being fought over "who's winning" and who is wrong/right. I could care less about how it is perceived on the internet. That is a complete waste of personal time and emotion. You'll never convince anyone of anything.

This is done best with the barrel of a gun on playstation or xbox with the Russia flag team versus the blue and yellow one.
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posted on May, 29 2022 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: Thrumbo

Ukraine was selected by NATO to fight Russia. They have been trained and equipped since 2014 for this war. And their men have been rotated for them to get modern fighting experience. They aren’t traveling thousands of miles to a different country to fight a inferior enemy, this is a group of men who are fighting for their country, meaning they are fighting harder than ever. When is the last time any of the NATO country had to fight a modern war against a opponent with just as good equipment?

And if you take out the early part of the war when Russia was basically fighting with one hand behind its back. No they aren’t mopping the floor with them, I’m sure they could if they went all out. But that’s what I like about the Russian style of war. They didn’t fly in blowing the whole country up to the point it can never be rebuilt. They are slowly taking it inch by inch.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

All the weapons sent to Ukraine by NATO countries. You don’t think they are directing them how to use it. Foreign generals from Canada being captured. I mean if you think openly about it for a sec and not let MSM control your narrative you can kind of put two and two together. Sure they can’t openly say NATO is leading Ukraine in the war but it’s obvious they are involved.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Kenny2xx

You like the Russian kind of war?!!!!

They don't have air superiority so rely on indiscriminate shelling by heavy artillery and rockets targeting residential areas.

And you like that?

T & C's prevent me from saying what I think about that.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: starshift

Things currently for the West/US isn't going well in Ukraine or the middle east.. Yet they are still trying to regime change Belarus.

They have money for wars, regime changes but not for the populations huh.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: Kenny2xx

Try not lapping up Russia's lies and propaganda and their ridiculous narrative?



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2




They don't have air superiority so rely on indiscriminate shelling

The Russians have air superiority? are you serious? the Ukrainians had lost majority of their air power. Maybe the Russians wouldn't had to shell areas in residential areas if the Ukrainian forces didn't put their forces so close to the residential buildings?



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Russia's lies and propaganda?
You mean like how the Russians arent winning the conflict yet it took the media a few months late that Russia is already gaining?



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: Kenny2xx

Exactly they had been training and arming them to fight the Eastern Ukrainian Ethnic Russians who lived there for more many years.
The far right groups had been effective in 2014.

I suppose you could consider they had been trying to provoke Russia into a conflict with Ukraine it appears that this provoking had worked.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

Did they take Kyiv then? Etc.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

Stingers and Starstreaks. Russian air force is notably mostly absent.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

Like how up to the day before they invaded they denied any intention to invade and claimed it was all a training exercise?

You mean like that?



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2



Russian air force is notably mostly absent


Because like Ukraine its actually not necessary unlike in Syria.
Remember Syria? look at the history how the Russians had helped Syrian forces agaisnt the Jihadist rebels.

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posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I don’t think the plan was to take Kyiv, but they wanted to tie up the forces there so they couldn’t be sent out to help others UAF. It was smart if you ask me. Just like how they move back and let UAF gain ground thinking they are retreating only just to surround them with the cauldron style artillery.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: vNex92

Did they take Kyiv then? Etc.

How are those lovely sanctions been working out? oh yeah it seems its hurting he west/US more than Russia.

The fact is you had the Greeks sending the US oil/gas supplies to US shows how desperate the US is at for the oil despite the tough stance agaisnt Russia etc.




Did they take Kyiv then?

You are repeating what you are seeing on the media and not the full picture not surprising.
From what i had seen from the conflict Kiev wasn't to important.


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posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf




Lastly who is sending T-50 tanks into battle its not nato sending 60 year old pieces of equipment.


This one I have to see to believe. Do you have a link?



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

And I’m suppose to lap up MSM narrative and propaganda. At least I’m honest with myself and not underestimating a major opponent like Russia. Should have never played with them like they are Iraq or Afghanistan and gave them the proper respect if we were going into a war with them. Maybe we would have done better in this war if soldiers and mercs actually knew what they were fighting against.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Why is UAF setting up their artillery in residential areas?Kicking families out of their homes so they can use it for position. Then complain when Russian artillery hits the same building their shooting from. It’s like some people can’t critically think for themselves anymore. It’s like bots just spamming saying the same MSM narrative over and over. Makes you think your going back and forth with a bot who can’t think for themselves.



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

Sorry I was wrong t-62 got my numbers crossed up before waking, what I get for typing before caffeine has hit my system.

MSN




Numerous Cold-War era Russian T-62 tanks have been photographed at Melitopol railway station in southeastern Ukraine near the current front lines of the three-month-old conflict in the country. Whether the tanks will be used by Russian forces or turned over to local separatist groups is currently unclear,



posted on May, 29 2022 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: Kenny2xx

Hmmmm. Pot, kettle?

Any evidence for your claim?



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