Poland Ukraine

a reply to: andy06shake

yes their fake and here is the original of the other video that was posted of him in this thread " spinning around in his chair acting loopy"

you can see that the white thing that is circled in the one posted here in this thread is again is distorted. also in if you look at the lines that were pointed / mentioned out in the video you posted, there visible in the original but they also run behind the picture on his desk. their also circled in the fake video.

i think the white thing is a charger or converter for some sort of device and if you look real close at the white lines,i think their reflections of the lights overhead. you can also see the reflection of the picture frame.

left is the original, rightis the fake



here are the links for the 2 videos.

the original

Zelenskyy instagram post

the one posted on here, for those that are having catbox loading problem try closing the space on the h ttps, and replace
files. with de., like this de.catbox.moe... if link doesn't work.

the Zelenskyy acting all loopy video.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: MissVocalcord

What is on the black slab?

Can't see; could be a logo could be something; resolution is to low to say anything;
But you claim this is coc aine and half of your story is based on this sole picture; just laughable.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Your the one claiming Zelenskyy is a junkie.

Need i remind you of how the burden of proof works around these here parts?

Because the onus is on you to provide credible evidence to support your claims.

And not fake video which you clearly know is fake and has been debunked from numerous different sources.

Again good luck punting your next bucket of Russian poop.

Because i think we all know it will simply be more lies, fake nonsense and tomfoolery.

a reply to: Grimpachi

A company logo.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

Cheers for the input and info.

Its not even the first time claims like this have been made regarding Volodymyr Zelenskyy being a drug addict. LoL

And Grimpachi knows fine well he is punting lies and nonsense.

Putin's minions and sycophants are simply grasping at straws, pun intended.

And all it really serves to achieve is to scream desperation in spades.

a reply to: andy06shake

your welcome,
i got no problems with people not liking somebody or what is happening. i do got problems with using fake made up BS to try and prove it.

a reply to: MissVocalcord

It doesn't look at all like a company logo to me.

It looks like a slab that people use to break up chunks of co ke to me and the "logo" looks raised to me. It even looks like it has a reflection on the slab.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

Exactly.

Adding fake fuel to the fire serves no other purpose than to muddy the water and detract from the real situation.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy is probobly lots of things some good, some bad, but the Mans not running a country, and fighting a war whilst stating the day off will a kilo of cha, that's for sure.

He was an actor/comedian. The chances of him using coke is very high.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: MissVocalcord
It looks like a slab that people use to break up chunks of co ke to me and the "logo" looks raised to me.

It's all in the eye of the beholder....

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Case closed, then?

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Quite the difference between having used the substance possibly in the past, to have what looks to be a kilo of the stuff lying around on your desk.

The fact is there are plenty of actors and comedians in the world that are not junkies, drug addicts, or choose to use Coca ine.

originally posted by: Subsonic

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Subsonic

The current Ukraine is too large,....

So your solution would be to break it up and give parts of it to other countries one of which, Russia, is far larger than Ukraine?

.... it's made up of portions of stolen land from other countries.

Any supportive evidence?
How did Ukraine 'steal' this land and when?

The eastern portions are almost entirely ethnic Russian and should be handed back over to Russia,.....

Err, no they aren't.
58% of people in both Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts are Ukrainian, 38% are Russian.
People of Russian ethnicity are concentrated in the larger cities and in some of these they are in the majority, but not by much.

.... and the northwestern portion is almost entirely ethnic Polish and should be handed back over to Poland.

Is it?
en.wikipedia.org...#/media/File:UaFirstNationality2001-English.png
There are approximately 140,000 Poles living in Ukraine, about 0.3% of the overall population.
I very much doubt that equates to 'almost entirely ethnic Polish' of anywhere.

The southwestern portion should be given back to Romania.

Why?

There's even a good argument for Kiev going back to Russian control, it's been part of Russia for almost the entirety of it's existence,.....

And what is that 'good argument'?
If anything its been part of Lithuania in one form or another for longer than it has been under Russian control.

Kiev predates the existence of Russia by a few hundred years.

Ukraine should be about half its current size,.....

According to who?

... this has been an area ripe for war for a long time.

Has it?
So that justifies Putin invading, killing thousands, the displacement of millions, destroying huge swathes of land and causing untold amounts of human suffering?

Ukraine was never a separate country until the breakup of the USSR, except for a few short years after WWI. Just because it's been a country in its current form for 30 years doesn't mean it should stay that way. I know that part of the world, it's where my ancestry is traced back to. My maternal grandmother, who is Polish, was born in Lvov, which was part of Poland since the 1300s. It's always been a Polish city, never part of Ukraine until the last 30 years. I think part of the final plan with Ukraine is to return Lvov and northwestern Ukraine back to Poland.

As for eastern Ukraine, they even voted to join Russia several years ago by huge majorities but Ukraine wouldn't let them leave. All I'm advocating for is to allow folks to self-segregate and associate themselves with whatever country they please. You know, advocating for human freedom rather than forcing people to act as a puppet state for NATO and the western empires.

Absolutely correct. It's the history that people don't understand. Ukraine has been a mishmash of "countries" for a long time. Glad that someone around here understands the history.

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

The chances of him using coke is very high.

The chances of any politician/entertainer etc of using do dah is very high.
To be honest, the chances of anyone using it at some point in their life is pretty bloody high nowadays.

I have a photo on my laptop that is about as reliable as proof of Putin partaking as any of the 'evidence' shown in this thread of Zelensky doing so.

originally posted by: Phantom423

originally posted by: Subsonic

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Subsonic

The current Ukraine is too large,....

So your solution would be to break it up and give parts of it to other countries one of which, Russia, is far larger than Ukraine?

.... it's made up of portions of stolen land from other countries.

Any supportive evidence?
How did Ukraine 'steal' this land and when?

The eastern portions are almost entirely ethnic Russian and should be handed back over to Russia,.....

Err, no they aren't.
58% of people in both Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts are Ukrainian, 38% are Russian.
People of Russian ethnicity are concentrated in the larger cities and in some of these they are in the majority, but not by much.

.... and the northwestern portion is almost entirely ethnic Polish and should be handed back over to Poland.

Is it?
en.wikipedia.org...#/media/File:UaFirstNationality2001-English.png
There are approximately 140,000 Poles living in Ukraine, about 0.3% of the overall population.
I very much doubt that equates to 'almost entirely ethnic Polish' of anywhere.

The southwestern portion should be given back to Romania.

Why?

There's even a good argument for Kiev going back to Russian control, it's been part of Russia for almost the entirety of it's existence,.....

And what is that 'good argument'?
If anything its been part of Lithuania in one form or another for longer than it has been under Russian control.

Kiev predates the existence of Russia by a few hundred years.

Ukraine should be about half its current size,.....

According to who?

... this has been an area ripe for war for a long time.

Has it?
So that justifies Putin invading, killing thousands, the displacement of millions, destroying huge swathes of land and causing untold amounts of human suffering?

Ukraine was never a separate country until the breakup of the USSR, except for a few short years after WWI. Just because it's been a country in its current form for 30 years doesn't mean it should stay that way. I know that part of the world, it's where my ancestry is traced back to. My maternal grandmother, who is Polish, was born in Lvov, which was part of Poland since the 1300s. It's always been a Polish city, never part of Ukraine until the last 30 years. I think part of the final plan with Ukraine is to return Lvov and northwestern Ukraine back to Poland.

As for eastern Ukraine, they even voted to join Russia several years ago by huge majorities but Ukraine wouldn't let them leave. All I'm advocating for is to allow folks to self-segregate and associate themselves with whatever country they please. You know, advocating for human freedom rather than forcing people to act as a puppet state for NATO and the western empires.

Absolutely correct. It's the history that people don't understand. Ukraine has been a mishmash of "countries" for a long time. Glad that someone around here understands the history.

There are 15 independent countries as a result of the breakup of the USSR. Who's next?

Armenia
Moldova
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Georgia
Azerbaijan
Tajikistan
Kyrgyzstan
Belarus
Uzbekistan
Turkmenistan
Ukraine
Kazakhstan
Russia

originally posted by: Phantom423

originally posted by: Subsonic

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Subsonic

The current Ukraine is too large,....

So your solution would be to break it up and give parts of it to other countries one of which, Russia, is far larger than Ukraine?

.... it's made up of portions of stolen land from other countries.

Any supportive evidence?
How did Ukraine 'steal' this land and when?

The eastern portions are almost entirely ethnic Russian and should be handed back over to Russia,.....

Err, no they aren't.
58% of people in both Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts are Ukrainian, 38% are Russian.
People of Russian ethnicity are concentrated in the larger cities and in some of these they are in the majority, but not by much.

.... and the northwestern portion is almost entirely ethnic Polish and should be handed back over to Poland.

Is it?
en.wikipedia.org...#/media/File:UaFirstNationality2001-English.png
There are approximately 140,000 Poles living in Ukraine, about 0.3% of the overall population.
I very much doubt that equates to 'almost entirely ethnic Polish' of anywhere.

The southwestern portion should be given back to Romania.

Why?

There's even a good argument for Kiev going back to Russian control, it's been part of Russia for almost the entirety of it's existence,.....

And what is that 'good argument'?
If anything its been part of Lithuania in one form or another for longer than it has been under Russian control.

Kiev predates the existence of Russia by a few hundred years.

Ukraine should be about half its current size,.....

According to who?

... this has been an area ripe for war for a long time.

Has it?
So that justifies Putin invading, killing thousands, the displacement of millions, destroying huge swathes of land and causing untold amounts of human suffering?

Ukraine was never a separate country until the breakup of the USSR, except for a few short years after WWI. Just because it's been a country in its current form for 30 years doesn't mean it should stay that way. I know that part of the world, it's where my ancestry is traced back to. My maternal grandmother, who is Polish, was born in Lvov, which was part of Poland since the 1300s. It's always been a Polish city, never part of Ukraine until the last 30 years. I think part of the final plan with Ukraine is to return Lvov and northwestern Ukraine back to Poland.

As for eastern Ukraine, they even voted to join Russia several years ago by huge majorities but Ukraine wouldn't let them leave. All I'm advocating for is to allow folks to self-segregate and associate themselves with whatever country they please. You know, advocating for human freedom rather than forcing people to act as a puppet state for NATO and the western empires.

Absolutely correct. It's the history that people don't understand. Ukraine has been a mishmash of "countries" for a long time. Glad that someone around here understands the history.

Wrong.

It's the history that nobody cares about, because it isn't justification for what russia has done to Ukraine.




Wanna talk about some uncomfortable russian history?

I live in the Gadsden Purchase.

Is Mexico gonna say, "We made a mistake (back there in history) -- we're gonna come take it back cuz culturally it belongs to Mexico."

Yeah, NO!

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: Phantom423

originally posted by: Subsonic

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Subsonic

The current Ukraine is too large,....

So your solution would be to break it up and give parts of it to other countries one of which, Russia, is far larger than Ukraine?

.... it's made up of portions of stolen land from other countries.

Any supportive evidence?
How did Ukraine 'steal' this land and when?

The eastern portions are almost entirely ethnic Russian and should be handed back over to Russia,.....

Err, no they aren't.
58% of people in both Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts are Ukrainian, 38% are Russian.
People of Russian ethnicity are concentrated in the larger cities and in some of these they are in the majority, but not by much.

.... and the northwestern portion is almost entirely ethnic Polish and should be handed back over to Poland.

Is it?
en.wikipedia.org...#/media/File:UaFirstNationality2001-English.png
There are approximately 140,000 Poles living in Ukraine, about 0.3% of the overall population.
I very much doubt that equates to 'almost entirely ethnic Polish' of anywhere.

The southwestern portion should be given back to Romania.

Why?

There's even a good argument for Kiev going back to Russian control, it's been part of Russia for almost the entirety of it's existence,.....

And what is that 'good argument'?
If anything its been part of Lithuania in one form or another for longer than it has been under Russian control.

Kiev predates the existence of Russia by a few hundred years.

Ukraine should be about half its current size,.....

According to who?

... this has been an area ripe for war for a long time.

Has it?
So that justifies Putin invading, killing thousands, the displacement of millions, destroying huge swathes of land and causing untold amounts of human suffering?

Ukraine was never a separate country until the breakup of the USSR, except for a few short years after WWI. Just because it's been a country in its current form for 30 years doesn't mean it should stay that way. I know that part of the world, it's where my ancestry is traced back to. My maternal grandmother, who is Polish, was born in Lvov, which was part of Poland since the 1300s. It's always been a Polish city, never part of Ukraine until the last 30 years. I think part of the final plan with Ukraine is to return Lvov and northwestern Ukraine back to Poland.

As for eastern Ukraine, they even voted to join Russia several years ago by huge majorities but Ukraine wouldn't let them leave. All I'm advocating for is to allow folks to self-segregate and associate themselves with whatever country they please. You know, advocating for human freedom rather than forcing people to act as a puppet state for NATO and the western empires.

Absolutely correct. It's the history that people don't understand. Ukraine has been a mishmash of "countries" for a long time. Glad that someone around here understands the history.

Wrong.

It's the history that nobody cares about, because it isn't justification for what russia has done to Ukraine.




Wanna talk about some uncomfortable russian history?

I never said it was a justification. What I said was that Russia and the Russian people have a history. That history defines how they think, just like every other nation. If we didn't understand the history of the Japanese and Germans, we never could have fought WWII effectively. History is the context of the future.

originally posted by: Phantom423

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: Phantom423

originally posted by: Subsonic

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Subsonic

The current Ukraine is too large,....

So your solution would be to break it up and give parts of it to other countries one of which, Russia, is far larger than Ukraine?

.... it's made up of portions of stolen land from other countries.

Any supportive evidence?
How did Ukraine 'steal' this land and when?

The eastern portions are almost entirely ethnic Russian and should be handed back over to Russia,.....

Err, no they aren't.
58% of people in both Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts are Ukrainian, 38% are Russian.
People of Russian ethnicity are concentrated in the larger cities and in some of these they are in the majority, but not by much.

.... and the northwestern portion is almost entirely ethnic Polish and should be handed back over to Poland.

Is it?
en.wikipedia.org...#/media/File:UaFirstNationality2001-English.png
There are approximately 140,000 Poles living in Ukraine, about 0.3% of the overall population.
I very much doubt that equates to 'almost entirely ethnic Polish' of anywhere.

The southwestern portion should be given back to Romania.

Why?

There's even a good argument for Kiev going back to Russian control, it's been part of Russia for almost the entirety of it's existence,.....

And what is that 'good argument'?
If anything its been part of Lithuania in one form or another for longer than it has been under Russian control.

Kiev predates the existence of Russia by a few hundred years.

Ukraine should be about half its current size,.....

According to who?

... this has been an area ripe for war for a long time.

Has it?
So that justifies Putin invading, killing thousands, the displacement of millions, destroying huge swathes of land and causing untold amounts of human suffering?

Ukraine was never a separate country until the breakup of the USSR, except for a few short years after WWI. Just because it's been a country in its current form for 30 years doesn't mean it should stay that way. I know that part of the world, it's where my ancestry is traced back to. My maternal grandmother, who is Polish, was born in Lvov, which was part of Poland since the 1300s. It's always been a Polish city, never part of Ukraine until the last 30 years. I think part of the final plan with Ukraine is to return Lvov and northwestern Ukraine back to Poland.

As for eastern Ukraine, they even voted to join Russia several years ago by huge majorities but Ukraine wouldn't let them leave. All I'm advocating for is to allow folks to self-segregate and associate themselves with whatever country they please. You know, advocating for human freedom rather than forcing people to act as a puppet state for NATO and the western empires.

Absolutely correct. It's the history that people don't understand. Ukraine has been a mishmash of "countries" for a long time. Glad that someone around here understands the history.

Wrong.

It's the history that nobody cares about, because it isn't justification for what russia has done to Ukraine.




Wanna talk about some uncomfortable russian history?

I never said it was a justification. What I said was that Russia and the Russian people have a history. That history defines how they think, just like every other nation. If we didn't understand the history of the Japanese and Germans, we never could have fought WWII effectively. History is the context of the future.

Everyone has a history.

Everyone.



Only the russian madman and his propagandists think that's justification for invading non threatening countries.

It is not.