Does the COVID Jab Kill More People Than It Saves?

a reply to: MiddleInsite

Pretty sure the answer you are seeking is an increase of 4

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: enament

And yet the morgues or mortuaries are not overflowing or our hospitals overwhelmed with the dead and dying.

If mortality rates had gone up "400%" or "40%" don't you imagine people would notice?

www.reuters.com...

I've noticed. After two years, I can still count the number of people I know who got covid on both hands. None got it serious, none died. Most people here would say the same.

I have noticed excess deaths ranging from heart attacks to sudden cancers as well as drug overdoses and suicides that were compounded by the fact two years of our lives were spent in lockdown. Maybe not 40% but higher than usual.

Where I live (vancouver island, canada) we had a severe doctor shortage before the pandemic. Now it is so bad that walk in clinics get booked for the day before they open and people turned away after waiting in line for hours. People haven't been getting routine treatment, follow ups, or pre screening to the level is was before. Our government really doesn't care.

My mom worked as a stockbroker/financial planner and she used to tell me to make sure I saved for retirement as there likely would be no pensions left after her generation (boomers). She really just meant that her generation was so big compared to mine that it would eat up any surplus but now I wouldn't be surprised if the governments worldwide are doing this on purpose to offload any extra people. It doesn't matter if people here in BC believe covid is dangerous or it's the vaccines, it's the lack of health care that will finish many off and that might be where this rise is coming from.

Oddly, there's always enough money for Ukraine!

Some things really stand out from reading the blogs on the thousands of people who claim to have been vaccine injured.
In over half the cases, they weren't seriously affect until the second vaccine, with some not until they got the booster.

In most cases, their doctor and the multitude of specialists they saw determined their inability to function was due to anxiety, and refused to report their case to the CDC. In cases that were reported, there was either no follow-up, or a call to acknowledge receipt of the report.

Most people who reported to VAERS received no acknowledgment, although a few did get a follow-up call asking what their symptoms were.

Quite a few had mild, well-controlled underlying conditions for which they were receiving minimal treatment for things such as asthma, thyroid issues, type II diabetes, etc.

The most reported symptoms seem to be whole body pain, heart palpitations, inability to walk for a period of time, breathlessness, inability to sleep, severe migraines, weakness and/or numbness in extremities, severe digestive issues and brain fog. Odd how they mimic 'Long Covid' symptoms.

It seems their health slowly begins to improve after about 11-13 months.

I don't know if people are asked to list any medicines they take or health issues they have before getting vaccinated, but this seems like it would be important information to be collecting data on, since a lot of drugs are known to have adverse when combined.
The ads for the latest, greatest prescription drugs on TV often have a warning like 'may reduce ability to fight off infection'.

There's no way possible the C19 vaccine was studied long term for adverse effects from being combined with prescription or over-the-counter drugs or supplements. I'm not sure that data- which I would think was critical- was even collected. Heck, even autopsies were not performed on people who died either 'with' or 'from' covid. That's a LOT of data that was deliberately left out of the equation.

For those who got vaccinated, did they make a written report of your medical history? Did they make a written report of all the medicines and supplements regularly taken? Without this information, the 'study' would be seriously flawed from the beginning, IMO.

There was a large chunk of people that got the jab, that were never in real danger from the virus.

there is always a risk from taking medicine you dont need, wouldnt surprise me if the 12-40 age group had a higher-than-expected death rate.

a reply to: 727Sky

The only way to truly know would be to have another pandemic but without anyone being vaccinated

a reply to: UpThenDown

I'm still waiting for the first one.

Someone show me evidence there was one.
It should be really easy.
Dancing nurses and empty hospitals or the word of a computer nerd wannabe killer busted at and divorced because of his extensive philandering at pervert Island don't count.

Show me the money
Argh where are you?

Added..furthermore, someone show deaths above normal flu deaths.
Especially considering the c test shows positive for covid when you have the flu.
...or are a papaya, whiskey or goat

a reply to: nugget1

4.5 Interaction with other medicinal products and other forms of interaction:
No interaction studies have been performed.

www.gov.uk... zerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

a reply to: igloo

Oddly, there's always enough money for Ukraine!

Sad but true fact of the matter is that they will always have money for war.

Despicable really.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: enament
I literally just posted a link

sTaNd4FrEeDoMnB sounds like a totally reliable and unbiased source.

It was a group formed in my province during the mandate protests for news distribution on events and news. You see I live in a Country where 99% of the news is state sponsored and all we have left is non-legacy media, and is proven more reliable than the CBC etc.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Sorry, calling BS on the 400%. Why?

Because what you are saying is for every person who died before, 400 are dying now. YOU WOULD SEE THAT IN A VERY DRAMATIC WAY!

So no, I'm smart enough to know BS when I hear it.

Don't even have to look it up.

a reply to: enament

Your math is way off a 400% increase is only 4x so if ten people died a 400% increase is now 40 instead of 10.
You should really know what you are talking about if you want to argue facts with someone.

a reply to: ScepticScot

You probably don't live in my country or even my Province which this article is talking about, our health care system is packed and they don't know what to do. You can be a skeptic all you want but at least you should look at the attached data before you dismiss it since it is from vetted reliable government sources.

Have a nice day

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: ScepticScot

You probably don't live in my country or even my Province which this article is talking about, our health care system is packed and they don't know what to do. You can be a skeptic all you want but at least you should look at the attached data before you dismiss it since it is from vetted reliable government sources.

Have a nice day

The post you replied to was about a 400% increase in mortality If you have evidence for such an increase pleaee share, otherwise I stand by my description of it as nonsense.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: enament

People die mate.

I know 4 people that died of COVID 19.

Don't know anyone that died down to being vaccinated.

The worst ive heard of was some poor sod-developing bell's palsy for a week.

Obviously, there is a measure of risk involved in introducing anything into our systems down to the fact that no two people are the same.

But again enament if you don't have those massive big piles of dead bodies that would equate to a 400% increase in the mortality rate, i have to wonder why?

And like i suggest just about everyone vaccinated on this little island are doing just fine, and we are not special by any manner nor means.

I know of 3 people who died within days of getting the shots, i also know of more than one injury,. But I don't know any body who died of covid.

a reply to: ScepticScot

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: enament

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: enament

People die mate.

I know 4 people that died of COVID 19.

Don't know anyone that died down to being vaccinated.

The worst ive heard of was some poor sod-developing bell's palsy for a week.

Obviously, there is a measure of risk involved in introducing anything into our systems down to the fact that no two people are the same.

But again enament if you don't have those massive big piles of dead bodies that would equate to a 400% increase in the mortality rate, i have to wonder why?

And like i suggest just about everyone vaccinated on this little island are doing just fine, and we are not special by any manner nor means.

I know of 3 people who died within days of getting the shots, i also know of more than one injury,. But I don't know any body who died of covid.

Meh, I know 2 elderly who died, before the vax, they were old. I don't know a single solitary person injured by the vax..what now? place should be littered with bodies

I don't think the vax is great, and for free choice, but I also have a hard time believing these threads

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: ScepticScot

www.cbc.ca...

So not anything like a 400% increae then.

As I said ,nonsense.

a reply to: ScepticScot

The CBC are totally a state sponsored communist broadcaster you'll never get the whole truth from them. A lot of people died around here last year, I live in New Brunswick.

Here from the original article from Standforfreedom.
www.stand4freedomnb.com...

"What Have They Done? Deaths for the month of January 2022 jumped by over 400% in NB. "

Thats during one month and not the time in question from the CBC article.

Its almost like you never read the stand for freedom article and went to their sources of data backing their statements.

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: ScepticScot

The CBC are totally a state sponsored communist broadcaster you'll never get the whole truth from them. A lot of people died around here last year, I live in New Brunswick.

Here from the original article from Standforfreedom.
www.stand4freedomnb.com...

"What Have They Done? Deaths for the month of January 2022 jumped by over 400% in NB. "

Thats during one month and not the time in question from the CBC article.

Its almost like you never read the stand for freedom article and went to their sources of data backing their statements.

You provided the CBC link.

It's exactly like you posted a link without reading it.

a reply to: ScepticScot

You seem dense or something you really aren't seeing the big picture here. The CBC article was before the stand for freedom article, the CBC article shows a rise in mortality and thats in late 2021, the stand for freedom article is about Jan 2022 so you should see the correlation of events leading up to Jan 2022 backing up the stand for freedom article saying for the month of Jan moralities were up 400%. Stand for freedom also posted credible sources for that info. Its you who chooses not to look at the data they present.

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: ScepticScot

You seem dense or something you really aren't seeing the big picture here. The CBC article was before the stand for freedom article, the CBC article shows a rise in mortality and thats in late 2021, the stand for freedom article is about Jan 2022 so you should see the correlation of events leading up to Jan 2022 backing up the stand for freedom article saying for the month of Jan moralities were up 400%. Stand for freedom also posted credible sources for that info. Its you who chooses not to look at the data they present.

Again you linked the article.

I have looked up the data which is one of the reasons I can say the claim is nonsense.

www150.statcan.gc.ca... s=20220101%2C20220228