Painful Osteoarthritis. Seeking advice.

I’m so sorry to hear about what your friend is going through. I have osteoarthritis, mostly in my knees and ankles, but it has been creeping up into my shoulders and elbows. There are days when the pain is pretty nasty, and I hate taking pills. If it’s a bad day, I’ll take ibuprofen or naproxen sodium.

I have found that drinking plenty of fluids helps with the joint pain and inflammation. It sounds like your friend is on the right track with healthy eating and drinking tea. Green tea has anti inflammatory compounds. I try to drink a couple of cups of that a day. In addition, if your friend likes fish, eating lean fish may help as fish is high in omega 3’s which also help with your joints. Otherwise if they can tolerate it, taking fish oil or krill oil supplements also is helpful. I take 1000 mg of krill oil every day. I have less pain and inflammation in my joints now.

I also take turmeric curcumin supplements. That helps with inflammation. It can be hard on the stomach for some though. I don’t want to be taking pain killers on a regular basis. I try to do some walking every day. I find the walking can also help with the stiffness and pain from osteoarthritis.

It sounds like your friend is on the right track. I hope she feels better real soon.

Look up taurine and osteoarthritis. Even if she is eating healthy foods, she may not be eating enough meat or maybe she is missing adequate enzymes to create taurine in her body. A deficiency in a couple of different enzymes can cause this. Also, a glutamine supplement can also lower joint inflammation in some people. I would not recommend more than a five hundred mg capsule of these to experiment with. Glutamate too high without enough glutamine can cause inflammation. This is a complex cycle with ties to a lack of adequate enzyme called glutaminase I think that balances the two..

Just something to look at, homeostasis of this kind of stuff in the body is dependent on balanced diet that matches your genetics somewhat. Molybdenum cofactors are necessary for taurine metabolism and some foods can deactivate glutaminase and other enzymes in the body.

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I've heard a keto diet can help arthritis and swelling in general

Exercise is also supposed to be helpful within limits. It gets the joints moving again and that flexibility can help with the pain.

My grandmother used to have a home wax bath, and it was good for her hands. She had particularly bad osteoarthritis. I don't know if they sell them anymore, but you could look at what the benefits were supposed to be, how they were supposed to work and find something that would approximate the effects.

I'm overwelmed with the respones, advice and help you're are giving. This site is more than just Conspiracies & Cover-Ups.

Diet seems to mentioned a lot, which is good. She eats very well, but i'm sure there are things that she would change if it meant less pain in her hand.
The links you have provided are great reads. I'm learning more about Osteoarthritis all the time. There is so much information out there, it can sometimes get too much if you are searching in the wrong place. You can easily go around in circles.

Thanks again for your help. It's most appreciated.

I got my mom and sister DMSO cream as both have arthritic conditions, Mom's is in her hands and my sister has a knee problem. Just be careful and read the directions, I use it for my chronic pain too it helps big time, as does D8 and D9 and CBD as a tincture.

It helps, as does diet changes

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I've never heard of DMSO cream. I'll have a look and see if it's something she can use. Thanks for the advice. I always make sure it's safe and read the directions first. You never know these days.

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Here's a link I hate Amazon, but other places have it as well.

www.amazon.com...

I believe I have arthritis in my lower back. In research I realized that fruit isn't really that "healthy". Modern fruits have been bred to have very high sugar content, be very large, and it's not really natural to have them all at all times of the year. Less sugars help with inflammation.

I have arthritis in my hands and when it gets painful I use a CBD/arnica stick called "the Cure" that tends to get rid of the worst of the pain within abput 15 minutes.

I avoid things with nitrites in them like deli meat and pickles

I have not personally tried it, but my cousin's husband is an internationally known expert in the rehab and sports medicine field, and he says that Voltaren gel (diclofenac sodium topical gel) gets good results. I don't know what brand name it might be sold under in other parts of the world, but it's Voltaren in the US. He recommended it to my mom.

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Here's a link I hate Amazon, but other places have it as well.

www.amazon.com...

Thanks for the link. I hate Amazon too haha

originally posted by: JourneyAbout
I believe I have arthritis in my lower back. In research I realized that fruit isn't really that "healthy". Modern fruits have been bred to have very high sugar content, be very large, and it's not really natural to have them all at all times of the year. Less sugars help with inflammation.

I know that my friend eats a lot of fruit everyday. It's a good point about the high sugar content. Something to look at I think.
Thanks

originally posted by: Aliquandro
I have arthritis in my hands and when it gets painful I use a CBD/arnica stick called "the Cure" that tends to get rid of the worst of the pain within abput 15 minutes.

I avoid things with nitrites in them like deli meat and pickles

Thanks. I'll take a look for it. If it gets rid of the pain, only for a while, it's worth a look. I think she doesn't much Deli meat or pickles to be honest.

Thanks

originally posted by: ketsuko
I have not personally tried it, but my cousin's husband is an internationally known expert in the rehab and sports medicine field, and he says that Voltaren gel (diclofenac sodium topical gel) gets good results. I don't know what brand name it might be sold under in other parts of the world, but it's Voltaren in the US. He recommended it to my mom.

That's interesting. I'll have to see if it's sold here in the U.K. Thanks for the recommendation. Good to hear it works and gets good results.

Thanks

Well, seeing how all the addicts are privy to pain meds has left those suffering from osteoporosis, rheumatoid arthritis, chemo , ✅✅✅a reply to: rhynouk

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ibuprofen

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Sadly, I don't know the cure for that particular ailment, but then again, we don't come to this planet to be perfectly painless and completely free - we have a job to do.

Perhaps it wil psychologically help you and her to realize she's here EXACTLY to experience that pain and suffering. It will end at some point, when the body dies.

If we didn't suffer, our lives might be completely meaningless, so at least she can be happy that she can have meaning in her life.

For my own pains, which are probably not comparable, I was able to alleviate them with 'Health Food Store medicines' that are made out of natural products and not the typical lab chemicals as the 'official drugs' are. Maybe you two could go to that kind of places and talk about what might help, cure or alleviate the symptoms at least.

One thing that helped a lot was green tea - more than the 'official drugs', in fact.

Another thing I used was a 'Yantra Mat' for its 'acupuncture spike' type stuff. Acupuncture and other 'alternative medicine' might also help - have you tried the ancient Chinese healing methods and medicines? Prayer and meditation are always a good idea in a crisis.

Then there are these methods, where you can just focus on other things - if you have a painful arm, you can focus on how good your toe feels, and so on. You can also 'become one' with the pain, and although it does not alleviate the pain itself, it changes the EXPERIENCE because your focus shifts, so now you are 'friends with the pain' and trying to experience it as fully as possible can make it 'more bearable', since you're not trying to escape it, but embracing it instead.

The only ailments I know how to cure are (please note, these work for me, they might not work for you, and I am not responsible for anything YOU decide to do):

- headache

Hold your right hand's palm against your forehead, left hand's palm at the back of your head so the palms face each other. Stay in this position as long as you can, or at least about a minute or more.

The theory is, your right palm gives healing energy, and your left palm 'balances it out' and helps direct it where needed. You don't have to believe in this theory for it to work, the physical doing is enough.

- stomach-ache

Same as headache cure, but of course with stomach and back - a bit cumbersome and painful position, but always make sure palms are facing each other. Right hand's palm on stomach, left hand's palm on the back.

- heartburn

Eat a lot of cucumber (or use the 'stomach-ache cure' I just mentioned - cucumber is as anti-acidic as it gets, so it neutralizes the acid, so it won't burn so much.

- back pain

The old QiGong-method of 'drumming' your lower back has often helped me.

- insomnia

Go to an acupuncturist, I got a long-lasting insomnia cured with one treatment, and it hasn't bugged me since. (This was many many many years ago)

- hiccups

You can either throw up, or almost throw up. If you can get the gag reflex going without actually throwing up (with practice, it's doable even without fingers in your throat, just gagging with your throat enough). Once you get one or two 'natural gag's happening, it stops the hiccup in my experience, every single time. This is infallible for me, at least.

- tooth ache (no cure, but temporary silencing of the pain)

There are many 'old cures' for sudden, sharp toothache - you can alleviate the pain with 'over-the-counter drugs', or you can use garlic that's cut .. err, was it vertically or horizontally? One of those directions works better. Just hold a cut garlic slice against the gum or the painful tooth until it starts burning so much you can't take it, try to hold as long as you can - the burning replaces the pain for awhile, then it subsides, and you should be pain-free at least for a short while. You can also use soaked-in-warm-water green tea bags in a similar fashion, just hold it in there.

I hope this helps at least someone in some way..

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I think she's tried that. She's going to try to find out how far down the waiting list she is I think. There are people with worse things happening to them, so as long as she's on the list somewhere, she's ok with that.

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Thanks for the post, that was an interesting read. She's tried so many things now that she forgets what she tried. There is no magical cure for it. Just pain relief meds and trying to eat and do the right things.