Footage of Ru forces destroying M777 howitzers with drone and artillery strikes

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Grimpachi

I can see why you would feel that way. When you stop eating all the lies from Putin you will feel much better.

All Western propaganda sources.

a reply to: Grimpachi


I have used the word repeatedly.

Because it accurately describes the russian tactics used in Bucha, Hostemel, Popasna, early Kharkiv, and large areas of Marioupol.


20 guns firing at the same city block or tower before moving on to the next one indiscriminately.

With complete disregard for who might be inside those city blocks and towers indiscriminately.

Indiscriminately.

a reply to: Xcathdra

So Ukraine hasn't been lying for 20 years? The US hasn't been lying for 20 years? The media hasn't been lying for 20 years? Do yo think any countries hands are clean?

If you think you can say that isn't what you said then what is the point of throwing stones from a glass house. You are being absolutely hypocritical to avoid directly addressing events as they happen.

they are not empty claims.

Then back them up with evidence.

Do you get your talking points directly from Peskov or Putin?

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

An easy claim to dismiss facts. Label everything as propaganda and only use the Russian government propaganda.

Russia is not going to broadcast their war crimes to the Russian people while Putin blocks all other sources of media.

Also if you actually checked the videos you would see there are videos from countries other than Western.

You guys only using Russian information is akin akin the having the SS investigate Auschwitz for war crimes.

a reply to: Grimpachi

No, Ukraine has not lied in order to invade another country.

a reply to: Xcathdra

1st video they show a "small factory" that took a hit and you can hear ammo cooking off.

That is ammo storage and far from indiscriminate.

2nd video show nothing but has a lot of talk and a statement from the cokehead and Chief of Ukraine.

3rd video is more of the same.

4th video is finally a little bit of action. But hardly proof of indiscriminate shelling. They did show a military base destroyed. That is a legitimate target.

5th video what may be actual indiscriminate shelling of one area in a city. What was going on in that area? Video from miles away while I have posted a video of homes being targeted holding enemy troops and video of homes being used as ammo storage points.

I am not going further.

You just gishgalloped me with over 50% trash and one even proving that it wasn't indiscriminate. It was an ammo storage point.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Do you get your talking points directly from Peskov or Putin?

So then your answer would be Yes, you get your info from Putin / Peskov. The only other explanation would be you guys are a lot dumber than I realized and lack the ability to exercise independent thought.


Yahoo News
'Capable of anything': How the '99 apartment bombings explain Putin's rise and regime

There is “no serious doubt that Putin came to power as the result of an act of terror against his own people,” says David Satter, who has investigated the apartment bombings perhaps more thoroughly than any other Western journalist. “Someone capable of such a crime is capable of anything,” Satter told Yahoo News in a telephone conversation from Paris. “And the proper attitude towards him is deterrence, not partnership.”

click link for article

a reply to: Xcathdra

No, Ukraine has not lied in order to invade another country.

I didn't ask you that and for you to avoid answering the question and trying to change it to something different means you know you are being a hypocrite.

a reply to: Grimpachi

and in all videos its shows Russia indiscriminately shelling cities in Residential / non military areas.

The fact Putin withdrew Russia from Protocol 1 supports the fact Russia is indiscriminately killing civilians.

a reply to: Grimpachi

and again Ukraine has never lied in order to invade a neighboring country. Russia on the other hand lied to justify thjeir invasion of Ukraine.

Ok we will turn the question back on you. Has Russia ever lied? Has the Russian media ever lied? Has Putin ever killed Russian citizens to achieve his political goal?

I look forward to how you wont answer the question using some bs excuse.

a reply to: Xcathdra

So then your answer would be Yes,

More dishonesty from you.

You seem to be incapable of having a real conversation or being honest.

Now you are trying to switch the subject again. Explain what your video has to do with the current war.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Just as I predicted. Thanks for confirming.

a reply to: Xcathdra

and again Ukraine has never lied in order to invade a neighboring country.

And again, I never claimed that. Your strawman tactics are not working.

Ok we will turn the question back on you. Has Russia ever lied? Has the Russian media ever lied? Has Putin ever killed Russian citizens to achieve his political goal?

I look forward to how you wont answer the question using some bs excuse.

Yes to all and that means your future site making statements of fact that I wouldn't answer makes you a liar.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Now you are trying to switch the subject again. Explain what your video has to do with the current war.

It supports my claim that Putin murdered 300+ Russian civilians. It also demonstrates that Putin is more than capable of killing Ukrainian citizens. I mean if Putin will kill his own civilians, no one is safe.

a reply to: Grimpachi

I see when you get boxed in and called out you do the right thing.

I love how you call me a liar even though I never answered your question to your satisfaction.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Grimpachi

Just as I predicted. Thanks for confirming.

We have confirmed that you lie, gish gallop with trash that doesn't show what was asked in an effort to overwhelm, avoid answering direct questions, build strawmen and get upset when I don't fall for them.

A lot has been confirmed.

a reply to: Grimpachi

and what is the lie?

a reply to: Xcathdra


I don't even know how all this started, but it's pretty hilarious.

Do you think any heads are exploding after learning that the tank they've worshipped for half a century in annual parades and built in massive numbers has never penetrated an M1?

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Now you are trying to switch the subject again. Explain what your video has to do with the current war.

It supports my claim that Putin murdered 300+ Russian civilians. It also demonstrates that Putin is more than capable of killing Ukrainian citizens.

It supports the strawman you were building to avoid my question and call for evidence. Congrats on proving something that was never contested.

I mean if Putin will kill his own civilians, no one is safe.

How many civilians killed by their own government does it take for that same thing to apply?