Today's Congressional Hearing on UFO'S: Some Questions I have here...

a reply to: ConMi27

They solved it. MSM is saying they are just drones. UFO question is solved by CNN.

a reply to: ConMi27

I was waiting for someone to pose the following question.

So, we can't match their speed or maneuverability, we can't shoot them down, we can barely track them on our instruments, WHAT'S PREVENTING ONE OF THESE UAPs from laying an atomic easter egg on the white house lawn?

One thing that is always bothered me, about the UAP stuff that's been disclosed so far, is that it's all been centered around the Navy.

Where's the Air Force in all this? Why would Navy Jets be encountering things that the Air Force never encounters?

Some of that might be due to a lot of the UAP activity being around water, in particular international waters. But I can't see that being 100% of the story.

Is not that to say that the Navy is not competent, but they just may not be in on the joke.

I suspect some of these UAPs are actually highly classified Air Force programs, or defense contractor programs, and that data is not being shared across the different services.

Hell, maybe some of it's been reorganized under space force now.

Again, this might not explain 100% of the UAP stuff, but I think there's room to speculate, that there may be highly classified programs, that are multiple generations ahead of whatever military craft are currently in service.

They might not be reproduced in mass quantities, they may all be either experimental or early prototypes.

But whatever is going on at the highly classified level with experiments are prototypes, is usually several generations ahead of whatever's commonplace.

Hell, the F-117 was designed in the '70s built in the '80s and operated in the '90s. And that's come and gone!

I got to believe some guys at Lockheed and some other contractors are tweaking around with some very unconventional stuff that goes beyond the normal "aeronautical" metaphor, meaning exotic propulsion systems and stuff. Probably things people have been working on behind the scenes since the '50s and every year there's a little improvements and things become more and more practical.

a reply to: panoz77

honestly, the explanation that the 'tic tacs' were
probably a misperceived tail end of a jet, and
the 'sudden accelertation' in gimble and other
facts of it, all had prosaic, perceptual
explanations.

There's also the nemesis system that exists, to cause
radar (and presumably)other types of fake signatures.

So to answer your question... miserceptions cannot
drop nukes is the most likely answer.

Also, at least two of the witnsses of the naval
events had 'excitabl personalities' and at least
one of them became convinced that he had
been granted super powers as a result.

Now i'm not saying whether he now has super
powers or not, but my point here is that i've
notice in my long research, that sometimes
people THINK they are seeing something
unusual, which then allows them to
actually SEE somthing that may not be
physically there at all.

some people call those halluncinations,
some call them 'psychic visions'.

So it's often a mixture of simple misidentification
and an altered state of mind that needs to be
examined.

I know only a handful of people who are doing
research on this facet, and that's a shame..
it would change UFOlogy forever.

originally posted by: panoz77
a reply to: ConMi27

I was waiting for someone to pose the following question.

So, we can't match their speed or maneuverability, we can't shoot them down, we can barely track them on our instruments, WHAT'S PREVENTING ONE OF THESE UAPs from laying an atomic easter egg on the white house lawn?

Right.

Which begs the million dollar answer that they really know what the hell they are and this is all, as usual, a giant puppet show of those in the loop versus those that aren’t. And those that aren’t, if you watched the video, seemed just as intrigued as I am sitting right here and my money is on them calling bull# as well.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: panoz77

honestly, the explanation that the 'tic tacs' were
probably a misperceived tail end of a jet, and
the 'sudden accelertation' in gimble and other
facts of it, all had prosaic, perceptual
explanations.

There's also the nemesis system that exists, to cause
radar (and presumably)other types of fake signatures.

So to answer your question... miserceptions cannot
drop nukes is the most likely answer.

Also, at least two of the witnsses of the naval
events had 'excitabl personalities' and at least
one of them became convinced that he had
been granted super powers as a result.

Now i'm not saying whether he now has super
powers or not, but my point here is that i've
notice in my long research, that sometimes
people THINK they are seeing something
unusual, which then allows them to
actually SEE somthing that may not be
physically there at all.

some people call those halluncinations,
some call them 'psychic visions'.

So it's often a mixture of simple misidentification
and an altered state of mind that needs to be
examined.

I know only a handful of people who are doing
research on this facet, and that's a shame..
it would change UFOlogy forever.

I’m sure they could absolutely drop nukes.

That type of technology is probably pretty limitless. My husband can explain physics better than I can but if they’re using those types of systems just for flight …. What do they have in terms of weapons? Seems a little spacey *pun intended* but in all reality, who even knows what they consider as weapons.

They may have more biological weapons or …. Let your mind wonder. You get my point. But with all of the people claiming they flew over the nuclear test sites and shut them off one day and that our abilities to create nuclear weapons was one of the reasons why they’re here: doesn’t seem to fit the agenda to cause massive harm unless they have more to gain in using as alive than us dead.

a reply to: ConMi27

you didn't read my response.

But that's ok... it would probably be better if your
husband did the typing.. if he could explain
better, as you say.

a reply to: ConMi27
There is no way, in WW2 when pilots saw Foo Fighters, those were man made craft. Also ufos have been known, to disarm our nuclear weapons. I don't believe in 1967 when one such incident happened, at Malamstrum Airforce base,in Montana took place, and 10 Nuclear missiles were incapacitated, that any country had the technology, to do that.

I think it is either Aliens, something from another time or dimension.

Of course presently some craft could be man made.


www.livescience.com...

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: panoz77

honestly, the explanation that the 'tic tacs' were
probably a misperceived tail end of a jet, and
the 'sudden accelertation' in gimble and other
facts of it, all had prosaic, perceptual
explanations.

There's also the nemesis system that exists, to cause
radar (and presumably)other types of fake signatures.

So to answer your question... miserceptions cannot
drop nukes is the most likely answer.

Also, at least two of the witnsses of the naval
events had 'excitabl personalities' and at least
one of them became convinced that he had
been granted super powers as a result.

Now i'm not saying whether he now has super
powers or not, but my point here is that i've
notice in my long research, that sometimes
people THINK they are seeing something
unusual, which then allows them to
actually SEE somthing that may not be
physically there at all.

some people call those halluncinations,
some call them 'psychic visions'.

So it's often a mixture of simple misidentification
and an altered state of mind that needs to be
examined.

I know only a handful of people who are doing
research on this facet, and that's a shame..
it would change UFOlogy forever.

I’m sure they could absolutely drop nukes.

That type of technology is probably pretty limitless. My husband can explain physics better than I can but if they’re using those types of systems just for flight …. What do they have in terms of weapons? Seems a little spacey *pun intended* but in all reality, who even knows what they consider as weapons.

They may have more biological weapons or …. Let your mind wonder. You get my point. But with all of the people claiming they flew over the nuclear test sites and shut them off one day and that our abilities to create nuclear weapons was one of the reasons why they’re here: doesn’t seem to fit the agenda to cause massive harm unless they have more to gain in using as alive than us dead.

I have been interested in ufo’s my whole life, and the only thing that seems to make sense to me is that these objects are not extraterrestrial in origin.

I would like to believe its aliens, but when you look at the vast distances, and the physics of FTL it seems unlikely to me.
Could it be China? Not likely in my opinion. I do believe we, as well as China, and Russia, have some really cool technologies that are pretty much unknown to the world. This might explain some of the sightings, but not nearly all.

What I have come to believe, is that in our distant past there were advanced civilizations that due to a major catastrophe such as a super volcano, or asteroid impact, moved both underground and undersea. If something caused the surface to become toxic, there is only 3 ways you can go. Underwater, underground, or off planet. Perhaps they did all 3.

If this happened millions of years ago and these civilizations were highly advanced at the time, they could have had advanced tunneling tech. Finding massive caverns, or creating them with the tech they had. Many years pass, and they find that they are content living where they are. It’s safe from predators, bad weather, abundant water, with a constant temperature, geothermal energy, etc. the ideal system.

Time passes, the planet heals, but like I said they are content where they are. Along comes modern man. At first he is seen as just another animal, and as he evolves he is seen as a very dangerous intelligent animal. Early attempts are made to rule and control this Animal, but man is extremely violent and difficult. Eventually they give up and retreat. Controlling man thru more subtle means.

They patrol the planet and solar system, but something has changed. More and more sightings. They seem to be slowly letting us know they are here, and that we are far outclassed by them. Maybe they are in contact with governments, and now they want us all to know they exist, that they have always been here, and we are the unruly newcomer.

This theory would help explain quite a bit. Cryptids aren’t from the surface, but they sometimes travel here from below.
The pale grey color and large eyes, from reduced light levels. Possibly a side race of reptilians who fled underground, and evolved intelligence, why they are seen entering and leaving volcanos. Plug different things into this theory, and see if they work, I can think of many more.

One way or another, it’s obvious that we are not alone on this planet, that’s a given. I believe observation drones that people see whizzing around are mostly to keep tabs on us, and the environment.

I have no inside knowledge, just many questions, and what I believe is at least a theory to be considered. I guess this makes me a hollow earth guy. It just seems too make the most sense.

My response was to panoz, sorry at a high school for a teens concert and this internet is sucking giant tennisballs

And I hadn’t heard someone thought they’d gained super powers. That’s wild! Do you have a reference to that??? It definitely sounds more psychosis related. Maybe it’s like icarus but instead of the sun, it’s a ship, and you lose your mind not your wings lol

And no, I’m simply saying I’m not going to make up random ass scientific words that I don’t understand to sound smart.

Agreed! Def. Then again we supposedly did go to the moon a short few years later so: there’s that statistical anomaly 😅

Agreed! Def. Then again we supposedly did go to the moon a short few years later so: there’s that statistical anomaly 😅

a reply to: ConMi27

Here you go!

Day recently spoke to UFO researcher Mike Damante about his subsequent experiences in the years following the event, including a newfound psychic faculty, he claims, gave him advanced cognition, heightened intellect, and the ability to manifest things he desired in life. Day says he also began having vivid dreams of global apocalyptic events that lead to flashbacks in his waking life and severe anxiety.

Reference: www.gaia.com...

Reference: mysteriousuniverse.org...

a reply to: Topcraft

If this happened millions of years ago and these civilizations were highly advanced at the time, they could have had advanced tunneling tech. Finding massive caverns, or creating them with the tech they had. Many years pass, and they find that they are content living where they are. It’s safe from predators, bad weather, abundant water, with a constant temperature, geothermal energy, etc. the ideal system.

One of my better created collages…….suitable for framing 😉



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originally posted by: nerbot

More money blasted into the atmosphere and put out to sea me thinks.

This made me remember when one of the hearing members asked about UAP in the oceans under water and the answer was to be given during the closed hearing.

It was a t 1:09:05
www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: ConMi27

Here you go!

Day recently spoke to UFO researcher Mike Damante about his subsequent experiences in the years following the event, including a newfound psychic faculty, he claims, gave him advanced cognition, heightened intellect, and the ability to manifest things he desired in life. Day says he also began having vivid dreams of global apocalyptic events that lead to flashbacks in his waking life and severe anxiety.

Reference: www.gaia.com...

Reference: mysteriousuniverse.org...

It sounds more realistic to think a navy pilot was forced to make up some elaborate story to discount his recollection of the event than him really believing those things because how does he pass physical and mental evaluations for so long before this event and then suddenly he’s a bit off his rocker? but we will never know the truth and honestly I think both could be pretty feasible. We’rent the videos leaked and not released anyways until later? I can’t really recall but I felt like maybe they were leaked. 🧐

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: ConMi27

At the hearing… that crap about working closely with the FAA is straight up bull$hit!

Source: www.faa.gov...

Below has been the stance of the FAA for many years and remains as such even today. Where in the bajesus is the official FAA reporting format?

Instead, the FAA has the humor to put their “pass the buck” instruction under Section 8……which for military types….that means CRAZY

A partnership of reporting UAPs from the FAA to the Government???

It’s a FARCE

Question for the OP poster….you mentioned pilots in the family? Where if I were a pilot today and wanted to report a UAP to the FAA ….. were would I go to find an official form from the FAA to fill out? Please provide a link within the FAA organization.

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Honestly I’ve never ever heard of a link/ site. Normally you would call it in from the cockpit that there’s something to your 10 degrees left or right or compass heading and about how far out from it you are and then ATC makes a note of it? Verifies if it’s on radar? Not sure where it goes past then. We could call the FAA but I’m not sure I know any pilot that wants to call them to say, “hey bud, there was this strange object in the sky on such and such day and no one saw it but me…” you can see how it might not sound great.

BUT I will look online. I’ve literally never heard of such online reporting for pilots. ATC might have something bc they watch radar all day…

originally posted by: vance
a reply to: nugget1

She said "he said", is a very weak argument that he
"actually said", in my opinion. The inclusion of the great Dr. Greer, is even more a problem. The 99.9% of his research is also based off of "he said, he said", with the rest consisting of "light beings" that are otherwise known as the common moth.

For the OP, I watched the entire thing, they seemed to say what I knew they would say, the unknown is just that, unknown.

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I think you may have missed the point; this was ais in 1974, and what do we have brewing today? Rumors of an alien invasion....

Maybe it seems normal to some that 78 years later what Von Braun- or whomever- had to say now seems to be playing out., but it stood out to me as a bit odd. Somebody said it, long ago. Precognition? Who knows.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1


God I have not really been active on this website in so long I feel old 😂 but yes so -

I googled it and this is as the lovely website I found:

www.faa.gov...

I.e. we don’t want to know and we don’t want the feds down our throat with what our pilots are reporting, if it’s a threat or dangerous - contact law enforcement.

Sums it up quite nicely. I’ll ask hubs when I get home too and back to the comfort of my internet not going out

Editttttt: eah so same pic and same website (it loaded now) and he just said "report it in the air contact ATC I guess" that that is maybe why they made everyone put ADSB reporting (GPS reporting) in the planes. Could be a valid reason for that I never thought of.