The Gosford Glyphs 500 BC

Here we have an expert in Hieroglyphics, who firstly checks all the words inscribed in the dictionaries available, all the words are accounted for as New Kingdom script except one which does not show up in any dictionary, but the word is written in many temples in Egypt. He concludes that if it was faked it would have to be a professor of the language, and not an Aussie soldier or students having a prank. The writing tells a tale of two remaining sailors that got wrecked as they tried to head north.He maintains that the land of Australia was called Binu and was known to ancient Egypt and was as easy a destination to get to as would Lebanon. This is an educational eye-opener. .

a reply to: anonentity

Cool man thanks for sharing this. It looks interesting I’ll be back at some point to comment when I get a chance to watch the video.

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That was a really interesting video, Anon; I'm glad you posted it here! I love watching documentaries on ancient Egypt, the Aztecs, Mayans- any of our ancient ancestors. I feel very fortunate to be able to sit in my living room and explore all the remnants of early civilizations around the world.

Interesting that due to the strange symbol they were able to date about when the wreck there happened. It doesn't really sound like Australia was that well known of a place since they indicated that trade with the Chief of Australia was honest in trade with them... incase any other Egyptians happened to end up there for some reason that was their record of having been there.

My guess was it was an exploratory trade boat and they lost their boat and had to return to land... what they taught or if they built a return boat or if the name given for Australia by the Chief appears in Egypt or if that's just what they called any land not Egypt visited(didn't seem to be too clear on that in the video).

It's likely there was a record of them leaving since they appointed a scribe for the journey... if they made it back it's likely the scribe would have gone into great detail of the entire trip so that it could be placed into records for some enlightenment on future journeys there and not just landing there ignorant... not being able to leave(whether that was considered fate or an omen not to leave?) the stone glyph left to help remove that ignorance if more arrived there.

It's interesting that the first question was is it really Egyptian? Being verified as Egyptian; has become even more questions. Other than the one's posed... if they didn't leave; Where are they buried? If that's the only place in the area that has any record of them? Likely they'd be buried there if they didn't leave.

originally posted by: anonentity
Here we have an expert in Hieroglyphics, who firstly checks all the words inscribed in the dictionaries available, all the words are accounted for as New Kingdom script except one which does not show up in any dictionary, but the word is written in many temples in Egypt. He concludes that if it was faked it would have to be a professor of the language, and not an Aussie soldier or students having a prank. The writing tells a tale of two remaining sailors that got wrecked as they tried to head north.He maintains that the land of Australia was called Binu and was known to ancient Egypt and was as easy a destination to get to as would Lebanon. This is an educational eye-opener

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Ah, so sailing from the Delta to Lebanon is the same as sailing to Australia?

So he equates a journey of 600 km to 14,100 and those are straight distance by sea it would be must longer for the Australia leg. Did they 'cut' across the Indian ocean? They had no way to navigate and the Indian ocean is far rougher than the sedate Med. Navigate by the stars? The Egyptians would have been sailing under stars they had never seen before having crossed the equator.

Unlikely but not impossible.

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Since boomerangs have been found in Egypt's tombs,and most of the travel could be done in the sight of land, add in the probability that the actual sailors may probably have been , Phonecian working for the Pharaoh.It has a high probability of being more than possible. Add in the bronze chariot axle found washed up in a storm near Gosford as an added bonus.

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There are a couple of large issues with this site that nobody seems to address. First, is the fact that the hieroglyphs are from multiple eras and therefore chronologically incongruent. Second is that they are carved in sandstone and whether they were carved 500 BCE or 2500 BCE, the rate of erosion for sandstone makes it entirely impossible for these glyphs to have been carved more than a couple of hundred years ago.

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: anonentity

There are a couple of large issues with this site that nobody seems to address. First, is the fact that the hieroglyphs are from multiple eras and therefore chronologically incongruent. Second is that they are carved in sandstone and whether they were carved 500 BCE or 2500 BCE, the rate of erosion for sandstone makes it entirely impossible for these glyphs to have been carved more than a couple of hundred years ago.

Yep, and that has been noted especially as authentic native carving are badly degraded while the 'HGs' are not

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune

Since boomerangs have been found in Egypt's tombs,and most of the travel could be done in the sight of land, add in the probability that the actual sailors may probably have been , Phonecian working for the Pharaoh.It has a high probability of being more than possible. Add in the bronze chariot axle found washed up in a storm near Gosford as an added bonus.

Most cultures have the 'technology' of throwing sticks

The Egyptian ones are within that norm and some of them appear to be maces

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wo international examples of the technology, from Egypt, and India, when put in comparison with the Aboriginal Boomerang show that this particular technology is found along what is believed to be one of the earliest branches of migration — out of Africa and into Australia between 80 000 BP and 60 000 BP.

Yep a coast hugging voyage would have been more possible but also extremely long some 25,000 km. The average speed of ships at that time with row/sail is 5 knots (9.26 km per hour which at 25,000 km (one way) would take a third of year to accomplish. Very challenging indeed and meaning they would have had to interact with folks along the way.

Bronze axle?

I think you mean the report of a Phoenician chariot axle found in Sarina Queensland? So, quite a way north of Gosford and why would they carry a chariot with them? You need horses and transporting horses on an early ship would be extremely difficult especially that distance.

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Unlikely in the extreme it probably isn't a chariot axle....at all and a much later technology.

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a reply to: Hanslune

If you did a coastal route you would trade on the way there and on the way back, The actual glyphs are well protected from the weather. The route would have been subject to seasonal winds and would have to be well-timed.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune

If you did a coastal route you would trade on the way there and on the way back, The actual glyphs are well protected from the weather. The route would have been subject to seasonal winds and would have to be well-timed.

Yep, but why go there? While it is possible the Phoenicians or others could have made it there and might even have gotten back. The evidence you have does not support that they did. You need a habitation site, in situ pottery, burials, a trading port or items from both places in both locations! Like the Roman trading ports in India.

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Its likely that the ancients had knowledge of portals.

originally posted by: vNex92
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Its likely that the ancients had knowledge of portals.

Yes, along with mud bricks, no sanitation, dying from parasites and tooth abscesses and common diseases.

a reply to: anonentity

Egyptians Did Visit Australia in the Ancient Past . Anyone who Somehow denies that is a Uneducated Fool/Tool .

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The narrative that Egyptians or Phonecians had outposts in Australia.Is not even on the average person's horizon.Even though many artifacts have been found. Inconvenient facts are ignored. Compared to the trade today any trade would have been minuscule and left very little in hard evidence. The only thing worth traveling all that way for would have been the shiny metal. Any thought of colonization would not have been considered pointless as there was plenty of space in North Africa and Europe. The Rivers and ports used will have been obscured by sea-level rise anyway. Add in that Phonecians especially were very coy about trading partners. Why would they give out knowledge of rich trading destinations, as their wealth and influence depended on it?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
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Egyptians Did Visit Australia in the Ancient Past . Anyone who Somehow denies that is a Uneducated Fool/Tool .

There is absolutely no evidence that Ancient Egyptians ever visited Australia.

People that claim they did visit Australia are Uneducated Fools/Tools.

Harte

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune

If you did a coastal route you would trade on the way there and on the way back, The actual glyphs are well protected from the weather. The route would have been subject to seasonal winds and would have to be well-timed.

If you are trading where are the trade goods? As noted before known and archaeologically examples of trade ports show cultural items from outside the area. So where are these items?

You are trying to make theories real by saying opinions are facts - they are not.

a reply to: Hanslune

Are you serious? Australia is a continent-sized Island that even has rock art showing nonaboriginal boats. You can island hop there , www.abc.net.au...

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune

Are you serious? Australia is a continent-sized Island that even has rock art showing nonaboriginal boats. You can island hop there , www.abc.net.au...

YES, and can you show that the Phoenician nee Egyptians were trading there? No. Can we demonstrate that said folks visited there? Nope. Can we demonstrate that other folks (closer by) visited there? Yep.

Could the P and E have visited, it is possible but not probable and while plausible no evidence currently exists to support this idea.

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