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I understand that some of it has been taken in by the hard right extremist but most of that is just magical symbolism, protective symbols, battle symbolism etc etc yes I know we live in a world where now it's taken a completely different meaning. In the same way the Hitler corrupted the swastika, there's lots of variations of the swastika but now every single one of them have been tainted specifically because of Hitler's actions. I'm not saying it's OK for that guy having the eagle with the swastika symbol. I'm mostly talking about the more exotic ones.
originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: RetsuUnohana
I understand that some of it has been taken in by the hard right extremist but most of that is just magical symbolism, protective symbols, battle symbolism etc etc yes I know we live in a world where now it's taken a completely different meaning. In the same way the Hitler corrupted the swastika, there's lots of variations of the swastika but now every single one of them have been tainted specifically because of Hitler's actions. I'm not saying it's OK for that guy having the eagle with the swastika symbol. I'm mostly talking about the more exotic ones.
Unfortunately it goes far more than what you posted the far right are integrated within the national guard, petro poroshenko even had called the far right in Ukraine "Patriots of Ukraine"
You had the far right that burned down camps of Romas, gypsy people in Ukraine. Continued to attack, insult minorities, with the Ukrainian police not wanting to investigate.
In Russia a far right are always arrested.
Members Of Russian Skinhead Group Jailed
originally posted by: RetsuUnohana
originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: RetsuUnohana
I understand that some of it has been taken in by the hard right extremist but most of that is just magical symbolism, protective symbols, battle symbolism etc etc yes I know we live in a world where now it's taken a completely different meaning. In the same way the Hitler corrupted the swastika, there's lots of variations of the swastika but now every single one of them have been tainted specifically because of Hitler's actions. I'm not saying it's OK for that guy having the eagle with the swastika symbol. I'm mostly talking about the more exotic ones.
Unfortunately it goes far more than what you posted the far right are integrated within the national guard, petro poroshenko even had called the far right in Ukraine "Patriots of Ukraine"
You had the far right that burned down camps of Romas, gypsy people in Ukraine. Continued to attack, insult minorities, with the Ukrainian police not wanting to investigate.
In Russia a far right are always arrested.
Members Of Russian Skinhead Group Jailed
I'm not advocating for Ukraine and 100% aware of everything you said. I'm simply just making a symbolism comment. That was the main reason I said that it doesn't belong on soldiers currently or even police officers especially in Ukraine
originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
originally posted by: RetsuUnohana
originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: RetsuUnohana
I understand that some of it has been taken in by the hard right extremist but most of that is just magical symbolism, protective symbols, battle symbolism etc etc yes I know we live in a world where now it's taken a completely different meaning. In the same way the Hitler corrupted the swastika, there's lots of variations of the swastika but now every single one of them have been tainted specifically because of Hitler's actions. I'm not saying it's OK for that guy having the eagle with the swastika symbol. I'm mostly talking about the more exotic ones.
Unfortunately it goes far more than what you posted the far right are integrated within the national guard, petro poroshenko even had called the far right in Ukraine "Patriots of Ukraine"
You had the far right that burned down camps of Romas, gypsy people in Ukraine. Continued to attack, insult minorities, with the Ukrainian police not wanting to investigate.
In Russia a far right are always arrested.
Members Of Russian Skinhead Group Jailed
I'm not advocating for Ukraine and 100% aware of everything you said. I'm simply just making a symbolism comment. That was the main reason I said that it doesn't belong on soldiers currently or even police officers especially in Ukraine
I completely agree with that, but ultimately it's up to Ukrainians (along with non violent external pressure) to fix it, not the russian military.
Not having finished fixing that is one of the primary reasons why Ukraine's latest NATO membership request was immediately rejected, and NATO said so.
originally posted by: RetsuUnohana
originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
originally posted by: RetsuUnohana
originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: RetsuUnohana
I understand that some of it has been taken in by the hard right extremist but most of that is just magical symbolism, protective symbols, battle symbolism etc etc yes I know we live in a world where now it's taken a completely different meaning. In the same way the Hitler corrupted the swastika, there's lots of variations of the swastika but now every single one of them have been tainted specifically because of Hitler's actions. I'm not saying it's OK for that guy having the eagle with the swastika symbol. I'm mostly talking about the more exotic ones.
Unfortunately it goes far more than what you posted the far right are integrated within the national guard, petro poroshenko even had called the far right in Ukraine "Patriots of Ukraine"
You had the far right that burned down camps of Romas, gypsy people in Ukraine. Continued to attack, insult minorities, with the Ukrainian police not wanting to investigate.
In Russia a far right are always arrested.
Members Of Russian Skinhead Group Jailed
I'm not advocating for Ukraine and 100% aware of everything you said. I'm simply just making a symbolism comment. That was the main reason I said that it doesn't belong on soldiers currently or even police officers especially in Ukraine
I completely agree with that, but ultimately it's up to Ukrainians (along with non violent external pressure) to fix it, not the russian military.
Not having finished fixing that is one of the primary reasons why Ukraine's latest NATO membership request was immediately rejected, and NATO said so.
I'm just surprised the media stoop that low to actually erase the imagery digitally rather than leave it on there and let people make their own decisions.
But since you answered, no, we sent our forces at the request of Vietnam, Korea, and Europe
originally posted by: Salander
originally posted by: vNex92
The same media you are believing on Ukraine lied to you about covid and the masks.
And many many more things over decades at least.
originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: PatriotGames4u
But since you answered, no, we sent our forces at the request of Vietnam, Korea, and Europe
Not a single one of the three requested our help.
Know what you are posting about BEFORE you post .
Denying ignorance ,
Why ?
Runs deep with some .
Fill those body bags my brothers!
originally posted by: Dalamax
Still confusing ordinary people with a government?
How’s corrupt Ukraine doing today Joe?
a reply to: PatriotGames4u