How to Escape from a Sick Society: A Treatise on Successfully Countering a Totalitarian Regime

the only time i sought to 'belong' to the group hive mind was from 3 years to 10 years old....
yep.... Davey Crockett & Zorro Fads, Howdy Doody...
i yeched at the goody-two-shoes Beaver-Cleaver or the My 3 Sons tripe, especially the Brady Bunch ~gag-a-maggot show~
i was more attuned to the real world Beatnicks or else Bohemian's...

but at 10 and then a new Naturalized Citizen i was still under the rule of the 12 grade school system & a widowed Woman AKA Mother via Adoption

thank god foe the Army Induction when i turned 17 & 6 months for immersion into a greater reality where i had more development at 'hiding-in-plain-sight' and becoming independent within a well regimented system of Do's-&-Dont's

in that environment i kept the 'Strack Trooper' appearance, but easily befriended the enlisted men who controlled the underground network of imported hash-hish from Morocco


like a chameleon, i have rarely ever been outed, since 1965 always a rebel, presently i dwell in-the-belly-of-the-beast
in south carolina beach towns

veterans welcome and always a cold beer offered to visitors at 29577

a reply to: Xtrozero

To fix this may take a total reset. The RICO violations these guys commit in both parties and the bribery of officials has got to be challenged or we are
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This Republic has our enemy within our gates and inside the halls of DC. We have the ability to do something about voting them out but they steal elections in all the states, IMO. They are busted as expert liars and theives.

We know now who many of them are thanks to Trump/The Paul's/Cruz/Project Veritas/ and what they admit now in our news of so many lies they have told us about each situation.

Growing up on the South side of Chicago, I realized at a very young age, I was living in a place exempted from most laws.
It was the Chicago machine, they had the police and most police, prosecutors and judges in their pocket.

I always wondered if something like that could be done in a good way. Select the sheriff, DA, and a few judges and you released yourself of most laws. The police and DA are absolutely allowed to choose what laws to enforce. Yeah, there will still be federal and state taxes but most other laws are usually handled at the local level. In all but the largest cities, these elections could totally be winnable with just a small very motivated grass roots movement.

originally posted by: Justoneman

To fix this may take a total reset.

I see this statement all the time, but just what does it mean. What does it take to do a reset? I really do not think people have looked past those few words to really think about what it would take to do a reset as people suggest. Once people look what that really means 99% will say F that! You don't want to create something worst, and it seems everyone has a system in their head that is better, but when you actually add humans to it all it can be 10 times worst then what you took down. Just look at history time and time again, there is no great system, but a crap load of really bad ones. In America we have a good one, not super great, but good. There are ebbs and flows to it, but what kind of makes it good is as it drifts one way or another it corrects back to the middle.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Justoneman

To fix this may take a total reset.

I see this statement all the time, but just what does it mean. What does it take to do a reset? I really do not think people have looked past those few words to really think about what it would take to do a reset as people suggest. Once people look what that really means 99% will say F that! You don't want to create something worst, and it seems everyone has a system in their head that is better, but when you actually add humans to it all it can be 10 times worst then what you took down. Just look at history time and time again, there is no great system, but a crap load of really bad ones. In America we have a good one, not super great, but good. There are ebbs and flows to it, but what kind of makes it good is as it drifts one way or another it corrects back to the middle.

Oh, I am sure I know what it means, and it won't be pretty. But neither are stories of child sacrifices. I suggest to people if you will look at the Amish people and how they practice living, then you will see how far back we need to reset. We dump the tech and the asshats can't do a whole lot of crap they are doing now. But we won't unless there is a huge world affecting EMP or Solar event. If is going to be hell one way or another if the direction we are headed is not changed abruptly. I would like for this to resolved without it being hell on Earth. We may be heading for that at breakneck speed thanks to the machinations of the Elite cabal.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: incoserv

I always find it amusing when people on this forum start talking about their government using terms like "fascist" or "Communist", or describing how it as being authoritarian or controlling.

No matter how bad anybody here thinks that either Trump or Biden was are, or even Fauci for that matter. They're kind nurturing pushovers compared to some of the things that I've seen, and I didn't get sent to a labor camp. My friends or colleagues who did have some abject horror stories that put things like mandatory mask wearing into sharp perspective.

21st century America isn't perfect, but it beats living behind the iron curtain.

I agree 100% ... today. But in your post of the world you all didn't get there overnight, did you? It was by slow degrees.

Thinks are not as had in the US as they could or can become, but there are - I firmly believe - factions that want things to go there. If we remain passive and compliant today, tomorrow may bring on a very different socio-political landscape.

I have a dear friend, a German lady who was a war bride and came to the US with her GI husband. She's spoken about how her mother and father - "good people" - just couldn't or wouldn't see what was happening around them until it was too late

originally posted by: Justoneman
Oh, I am sure I know what it means, and it won't be pretty. But neither are stories of child sacrifices. I suggest to people if you will look at the Amish people and how they practice living, then you will see how far back we need to reset. We dump the tech and the asshats can't do a whole lot of crap they are doing now. But we won't unless there is a huge world affecting EMP or Solar event. If is going to be hell one way or another if the direction we are headed is not changed abruptly. I would like for this to resolved without it being hell on Earth. We may be heading for that at breakneck speed thanks to the machinations of the Elite cabal.

Last time I looked, America is still extremely good living no matter how bad one thinks it is, so people will not go down any path you suggest unless forced by some massive event that wipes it all out first. No one will give up their lifestyle for a worst one with some idea that in 50 or 100 years it might be better.

Well said. I feel the exact same calling. There is a way, but it requires a bit of capital to start (ironically).

This theme has been recurring throughout written history. The Exodus out of Egypt being the prime example. They asked Pharaoh for what was essentially a 3 day weekend, to which Pharaoh responded by extending their work week. God's providence would most certainly be helpful in emerging out of a godless society, but I think we are supposed to take the steps first and then it meets in the middle.

Imagine enough land where a group of people can farm and share resources, totally egalitarian so no crazy cult stuff emerges, and then bam you're free from any dependence on the system. Imagine retiring early with the only burden being some minor yard work to ensure your crops grow. Maybe some people with remote conventional jobs to ensure monetary independence.

The moment the impersonalized government realizes that the people don't need their "protection" is when the true liberation starts

Totalitarian means slavery; Or a cradle to grave scenario of expectations placed on the masses, group, or groupings of slaves seen beneath the slave owner(s) to produce whatever it is that is expected of them; That often times includes production numbers; Where an overseer to the slavery has been appointed to meet or exceed the expectations of the owner. If those expectations are not met then some sort of abuse occurs ...when those expectations are met, the abuse does not occur ...as the only incentive; As the condition or conditions of the slaves are not likely to change.

originally posted by: incoserv

I have a dear friend, a German lady who was a war bride and came to the US with her GI husband. She's spoken about how her mother and father - "good people" - just couldn't or wouldn't see what was happening around them until it was too late

Well sometimes the boot appears worn on another's foot. Perhaps if America goes down the same way Germany did after the first world war then American Women will have to marry Chinese GI soldiers and move to China where life is kicking.

originally posted by: HilterDayon

Well sometimes the boot appears worn on another's foot. Perhaps if America goes down the same way Germany did after the first world war then American Women will have to marry Chinese GI soldiers and move to China where life is kicking.

China is ready to implode with tens of trillions lost to horrible real estate investments buy 1 billion or so people. They are in deep dodo..

a reply to: Xtrozero

Ai Yai Yai! ....Back up, back up tell me what you're gonna do now? Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin' (what?) Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin' (come on) Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin'

Who is gonna take these American womans to the promised lands of milks and honeys when this scheissbergs is hitting these fans?

originally posted by: HilterDayon

Who is gonna take these American womans to the promised lands of milks and honeys when this scheissbergs is hitting these fans?

The problem is if the sh!t hits the fan here it will be 10 times worst any place else...lol

No were to run then.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: incoserv

I am looking into forming a co-op or similar to buy land. I think getting as self sufficient as possible is the best and pretty much the only thing anyone can do. I’ll elaborate later as I’m going out soon. But would be interested to hear others thoughts on this approach.

Communism type won't work because people become lazy. Some motivation to do your part like we have to do in an office setting is needed. Study places like "the Farm" in Tennessee. Having grown up in the Nashville and Memphis areas I have heard about the antics of the members. It took a lot of heartache to get it all sorted out too. That one damn near collapsed. No violence, but lots of laziness after a while of everyone getting their assignments settled. When I was in college my buds were buying the stinky green buds of Indica species of the smokable Hemp from "The Farm". It was definitely something that got some pooh stirred in a Conservative area full of Pentecostals, Church of Christ, Catholics and Baptists who believed too much in the old testament side of the Bible the Israelites use solely.

Who said anything about communism? The idea is just for a group of people to pool their money to buy arable land. As it is generally sold in parcels of 3 acres upwards it is unaffordable for manage and frankly to much for a single small holding, a small family can be self sufficient on about an acre or even less depending on the site. What you purchase would be your responsibility and the amount you own dependent on your contribution to the purchase. By setting up a co-op it should be easier and simpler than have solicitors as the intermediary.

a reply to: Crowfoot

The Pyramid Of The Present Order of Things MUST Be Deconstructed for the Good of ALL ......

a reply to: incoserv

Ok butt wat we do wen Allahu Akbar?

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Best to see that as the infinite tail of the bhavacakra... in focusing on it? You're the "demon" that keeps it turning. Otherwise; such a world doesn't exist(samsara). Moving about in such a world unattached to it(nirvana). Hate for such a thing, greed for such a thing and the delusion that such a thing exists to support greed and hate. Each individual has one of those things through an infinite amount of days... When the light of death appears; will you mistake it for yet another sun? If so; the tail grows another day in length.

a reply to: Crowfoot

Yes , but I on the Other Hand have Seen the Light.......

originally posted by: surfer_soul

The idea is just for a group of people to pool their money to buy arable land. As it is generally sold in parcels of 3 acres upwards it is unaffordable for manage and frankly to much for a single small holding, a small family can be self sufficient on about an acre or even less depending on the site. What you purchase would be your responsibility and the amount you own dependent on your contribution to the purchase. By setting up a co-op it should be easier and simpler than have solicitors as the intermediary.

Yup. Let's say 10 families pool their money to buy land, it makes it cheaper per acre to buy in these higher quantities so each family ends up getting more than they could on their own. They would All have independent parcels divided according to initial income. Everyone begins getting really good at specific things... carpentry, masonry, dairy, poultry, fruit, vegetables, moonshine, etc, etc. You'd have the freshest best food year round (given an acceptable climate or greenhouses). Everyone would be much healthier because they're mostly working outdoors.

a reply to: Crowfoot

Let it be Known to All the World , and the Inhabitants thereof , I, a Living People , Declare Unam Sanctam Null and Void and Without Force or Effect , Contract Void for Lack of Full Disclosure , Without Prejudice . Amen .