Successful Counteroffensive?

originally posted by: LastFirst
we are tough and they can't fight back..

Which is exactly what Russia thought about Ukraine. Hence going into month 3 of the 5-7 day special operation.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: nugget1

The first country to go bankrupt looses the war?
Which nation currently has the biggest debt and has just send billions more of printed money to Ukraine?

I think it's going over your head, vNex. The US is going all in, to the point of billions and billions. Sooner or later, Murphy's law says we'll go bankrupt.

Meanwhile, the media portrays Russia as pathetically weak, with low-lever equipment that can't begin to compare with what we've sent. What if our resources all get spent and we find out Russia saved the best for last?

What id Putin is playing possum? If the US isn't already bankrupt, it sure can't be far off.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: LastFirst
we are tough and they can't fight back..

Which is exactly what Russia thought about Ukraine. Hence going into month 3 of the 5-7 day special operation.

Nato is behind this.. Russia didn't want to bomb and attack Ukraine like an ENEMY. They tried a soft invasion,. Nato is gonna make it to where Ukraine is destroyed for no reason

a reply to: Grimpachi

Putin has said that they can't afford a conventional war with the West, it must be fairly obvious to anyone that can read, that conventional warfare is redundant in the modern age along with a host of other jobs and professions. The pride of the fleet is sunk just like that, all the top hardware is one stinger away from the scrap yard. It is only the media feeding information that makes it look viable. In Afghanistan, they just left the lot behind, as they did in Vietnam. It just won't work anymore, The military-industrial complex is politicly powerful but produces a lot of stuff, that technically was useless thirty years ago. Keep pushing and the present will look like a paradise compared with what it will be after a launch.

a reply to: nugget1

I predict that the longer this war drags on the closer their tech will reach par to ours.

On the telegram channels, the Russians release photos of captured equipment. New generation com US com systems, $500,000 drones. Unexploded switchblade drones. At least one copy of all of them will be sent back for disassembly and study.

They don't pay for R&D. They don't pay inflated costs to recoup R&D on produced models.

War always drives innovation and it also gives the enemy the ability to study your innovations. Russia doesn't have a military industry it has a military ministry. All the trillions we have spent on innovation will be picked up on the cheap and adapted.

This is why you are not supposed to arm your proxies with the best tech. We usually give them second-hand or degraded stuff. The retards in the office have completely focked us.

They don't have to be better just close enough.

a reply to: Grimpachi


That's a good point, it will also give them a good chance to evaluate if their systems are better as well. I am assuming that Russian tech must be pretty good as the West is using Russia to get into space as far as the space station goes. The West had good stuff a few years back but how much of the components come from China, Just random electronic gear like capacitors and transistors.I would bet even the latest stuff will go down the cost-saving way after they get the contracts.

originally posted by: LastFirst

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: LastFirst
we are tough and they can't fight back..

Which is exactly what Russia thought about Ukraine. Hence going into month 3 of the 5-7 day special operation.

Nato is behind this.. Russia didn't want to bomb and attack Ukraine like an ENEMY. They tried a soft invasion,. Nato is gonna make it to where Ukraine is destroyed for no reason

So it's Ukraine's fault for fighting back and the fault of NATO members for giving Ukraine weapons to fight back?

But putin bears no responsibility at all for invading a non threatening country in an effort to steal land?

Did I get that right?




Was Ukraine fighting back prior to russia invading Ukraine to steal land?

originally posted by: LastFirst

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: LastFirst
we are tough and they can't fight back..

Which is exactly what Russia thought about Ukraine. Hence going into month 3 of the 5-7 day special operation.

Nato is behind this.. Russia didn't want to bomb and attack Ukraine like an ENEMY. They tried a soft invasion,. Nato is gonna make it to where Ukraine is destroyed for no reason

Russia caused this when they invaded a sovereign nation that posed no threat to Russia.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Russian does not have a military industry because they did what Europe did with Russian oil/gas. Russia bought their more complicated components for their military from Europe. Hence the reason Russia has had to stop production on tanks etc.

a reply to: anonentity

NASA can use the private companies (like SpaceX) instead of Russia. We already do that to resupply the ISS. You really ne4ed to do some research before making claims that are untrue.

a reply to: Xcathdra

They just recently got a lift down by the Ruskies even while they were verbally blasting each other, so what the # are you talking about?

a reply to: anonentity

I was correcting your claim that the US is reliant on the Russians.

They are not.

a reply to: Xcathdra

That is a completely separate issue from what I wrote. Their supply issues from outsourced tank parts have nothing to do with them reverse-engineering captured equipment and coming out with their own versions.

I am sure they will get the issue you are talking about sorted either in-house or likely outsourced to China.

a reply to: Grimpachi

yup and I was pointing out that since russian outsourced key parts its highly probable Russia, should they reverse engineer anything, wont have the parts to rebuild / build their own.

Secondly the US / West has not given Ukraine top of the line tech. At least not yet but it is coming.

Good luck on China tech.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Pretty sure they out sourced parts because it was cheaper than making it themselves not because they couldn't make it themselves.

They will probably trade samples of US and NATO tech with China for benefits.

As for top-of-the-line tech. Well, 500K drones and our latest com sets are pretty far up there. For what is in the field being used by our soldiers it is top of the line.

a reply to: Grimpachi

This is why you are not supposed to arm your proxies with the best tech. We usually give them second-hand or degraded stuff. The retards in the office have completely focked us.

I'm always hearing how the US has the best, most advanced military equipment. It's being sent to Ukraine as fast as it can be transported.
The 'latest and greatest' of all things death is highly technical, relying on semiconductors- which rumor has it are in short supply. WTH happens when our supplies are used up? Does Biden think a 'pretty please, Xi' is all it's going to take to replenish our weapons of war?

Taiwan and its semiconductor foundries may eclipse Ukrainian news stories in the near future.

April 21, 2021 - Deepening military and diplomatic cooperation between Russia and China is worrying U.S. defense planners, who fear the two frenemies that share military technology and many foreign-policy goals will complicate the Biden administration’s plan to reassert U.S. leadership.

Either people aren't taking this war seriously, or they're totally incompetent. Not a lot of deep thought or weighing of consequences seems to part of the equation.
[foreignpolicy.com...]

a reply to: nugget1


We make most military grade semi conductors ourselves, some right here in Arizona.

ccp has too many spies in Taiwanese factories




We also aren't giving Ukraine any of the 'latest and greatest'.

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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: turretless

No, you misunderstood. You are losing. Period.

Someone on the forum told me (perhaps it was you) that the Ukrainians will not give up the fight in any case.

In this topic we see the first refutation of this thesis.

a reply to: turretless

Where are we meant to be seeing this?