Russia to remove Ukraine and Kyiv from textbooks

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker

Before you try and discredit the site.

From your first link: "A key source for the recent stories has been Russian opposition figure Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s new project, dubbed the Dossier Center"

I looked at the slides and they are absolutely adequate in the situation of the fake information aggression of the West towards Russia (you can observe this aggression on this forum on a daily basis, and even more so, we are discussing in a topic that is one of the examples of such a lie).

These slides explain how fakes are made, how they spread and how they can be recognized. Examples of fakes are given.

I could not verify that these slides belong to these people.

I don't know how to view a file's metadata and I don't know who can change it in a file and under what conditions.

Earlier you claimed you couldn’t access the Ukraine site. Because it’s blocked in Russia. This one is too. You claim you can’t view sites a lot so you don’t use a VPN. How do you see this one? This one has been blocked for quite a while now. They been exposing Russia elite for quite awhile. They expose the West too. Piece on Donald Trump son and his ties to Russian elites. So not interested in hearing it’s West propaganda.

financialpost.com...

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker

Earlier you claimed you couldn’t access the Ukraine site. BecAuse it’s blocked I’m Russia. This one is too. You claim you can’t view sites a lot so you don’t use a VPN. How do you see this one?

I can't see the site you linked to, but I can see its Russian counterpart - dossier-center.appspot.com...

a reply to: turretless

It’s the Russian equivalent of Wikileaks.

By the way. You can not change or alter Metadata. It can only be changed or altered by the creator of the content. Like Olga Nikolaevna Sukhanova and Svetlana Yurievna Tokhtueva.

As far as I know dossier doesn’t have any shill in it. Just like Wikileaks

By his telling, the centre gets its data from a series of anonymous digital drop boxes . The leaks carry evidence not only of high-level corruption in Moscow, but of the Kremlin’s “illegal attempts to influence Western public opinion and Western politicians,” he said.

Last week, Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who met with U.S. President Donald Trump’s son during the 2016 presidential campaign, saw her ties to senior Russian government officials laid bare in an Associated Press investigation .

They’re pretty legit

a reply to: turretless

Also glad you agree with fakes being shown. Educate yourself. Read the article. Find out why.

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker

It’s the Russian equivalent of Wikileaks.

This source belongs to the Western puppet oligarch Khodorkovsky.

See how they love him in the West.

Only in the last few days I see articles in the Western media with his participation.

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker

Also glad you agree with fakes being shown. Educate yourself. Read the article. Find out why.

Yes. Russian young and inexperienced people need to explain the essence of Western fakes about Russia.

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker

It’s the Russian equivalent of Wikileaks.

This source belongs to the Western puppet oligarch Khodorkovsky.

See how they love him in the West.

Only in the last few days I see articles in the Western media with his participation.

Missed all of 2016 then? When they exposed all of Donald Trumps son connection to Russia? This has been around. On multiple subjects.

The Russian young you mention though in your next post. They’re so much more educated on this than y’all. Internet is a wonderful place, which is why Russia is going to pull it. The Russian young is very vocal about what’s going on. Discord, twitter, gaming sites. They’re none to happy. Majority wise at least. We’re connected. Anything said in this echo chamber of ATS is unimportant. Most posts don’t even touch base of how the world says they feel online. Get a VPN, spread your wings. Go to these places and read. Before it’s all shut down.

And just like that, erased from a map. Poof!

a reply to: jedi_hamster

ukrainian media and anonymous sources, must be true, for sure.

How is Russia handling the history the USSR jointly invaded Poland at the start of WW II?

I see a pattern forming…

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: vonclod

Now I know you're a comedian.

Do you have many refuting examples?

What, that China, and North Korea have horribly repressive govts?(there's not even a question about that) Iran..govt not great either..very repressive too. I had a few co workers who escaped that place. What the Russian govt is doing now, speaks for itself, as well as past actions, like assassination, and I'm talking govt, not civilians per se.

The civilians in all this are mostly victims

a reply to: PassiveSeeker
What nonsense. It is Russia and Russian culture that are now massively canceled in the West, and in Ukraine this process intensified in 1992.

Kyiv is the father of Russian cities, it is impossible for us to cancel it.

Russia has been subjected to aggression by Western countries for centuries, but Russian schoolchildren still know the last words of Hamlet before his death, but do schoolchildren in the West know them? I doubt.

"The rest is silence" (c)

Culture and history cannot be cancelled.

a reply to: RussianTroll

you guys continually just make # up and it needs to stop. The whoa is me card the russians keep playing is old and doesnt work.

Update 4.24.2022

This may be a bombshell to some. Others will quickly cover their eyes so as to not see much of this post.

Here we go...

The Ukraine Prime Minister tells CBS News that Biden needs to send more dollars to Ukraine because Salaries and Pensions have to be met.

First, notice how Prime Minister Shmyhal is not the least bit bashful about saying cash is important because American taxpayers, the working American people, have a duty to fund the pensions and retirement accounts of the Ukrainian people, including govt politicians. [03:37]

Indeed, much of the financial assistance Joe Biden has been sending to Ukraine (beyond the weapons to support the proxy war) is going toward paying the wages and salaries of corrupt Ukranian leadership.

Let that first point settle in deeply, as we consider how working Americans are being financially destroyed by U.S. monetary/fiscal policy, yet the same U.S. officials wiping out your bank account, are funding the bank accounts of people in Ukraine.

VidClip of UKR PM: theconservativetreehouse.com... taxpayers-need-to-fund-our-pensions-and-salaries/

a reply to: carewemust
i've been hearing they was after $7 billion a month
straight out of his mouth is $4 to $5
to top it off they want $600b to rebuild too

" never let a good crisis go to waste "

now are all these figures net or gross with all the " 10% for the big guy " type dealios that could be going on
like all these weapon figures they toss around too...how much corruption could be there too

how much are we to pay for all the ink we'll need to print up these i stood with ukraine and now i'm broke bucks

maybe hunter will have a new laptop that he'll forget about so we can find out
as the FBI doesn't know where his last one is claimed to be while at that last congressional meeting

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

That is nothing new. They have been doing it for years and every country does it to some extent.

Do our history books list Crimea as part of Russia or do they say it is occupied land. They probably don't mention much at all because we never cared up until this year.

We do it more incrementally to make it look natural. Ukraine took a Nazi spymaster who was the driving force behind 1,000s of murders and ethnic cleansing and turned him into a national hero. Erecting Monuments to the man. Currently, they are taking down all monuments to Russian heroes and figures that fought in WW2 to destroy the Nazis.

Isn't the EU removing mentions, accolades, and such of Russians as we speak?

I am not supporting it but we can point fingers all day on this subject with examples.

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker

By the way. You can not change or alter Metadata. It can only be changed or altered by the creator of the content. Like Olga Nikolaevna Sukhanova and Svetlana Yurievna Tokhtueva.

This is another attempt at deception on your part.

"Revamp your information with these 7 unique metadata editors" - www.canto.com...

"How to View, Edit, and Add Metadata to a Photo" - www.makeuseof.com...

"The use of metadata in PDF files" - www.prepressure.com...

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker

Missed all of 2016 then? When they exposed all of Donald Trumps son connection to Russia? This has been around. On multiple subjects.

The Russian young you mention though in your next post. They’re so much more educated on this than y’all. Internet is a wonderful place, which is why Russia is going to pull it. The Russian young is very vocal about what’s going on. Discord, twitter, gaming sites. They’re none to happy. Majority wise at least. We’re connected. Anything said in this echo chamber of ATS is unimportant. Most posts don’t even touch base of how the world says they feel online. Get a VPN, spread your wings. Go to these places and read. Before it’s all shut down.

I don’t understand how Khodorkovsky from my post and Trump’s son from your post are connected.

Modern Russian youth, in addition to being inexperienced in the field of information manipulation, is also extremely poorly educated and therefore very vulnerable to various types of manipulation.

originally posted by: vonclod

What, that China, and North Korea have horribly repressive govts?(there's not even a question about that) Iran..govt not great either..very repressive too. I had a few co workers who escaped that place. What the Russian govt is doing now, speaks for itself, as well as past actions, like assassination, and I'm talking govt, not civilians per se.

The civilians in all this are mostly victims

I asked you to give examples of good news about the governments of these countries from the Western press. You haven't been able to do it.

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: vonclod

What, that China, and North Korea have horribly repressive govts?(there's not even a question about that) Iran..govt not great either..very repressive too. I had a few co workers who escaped that place. What the Russian govt is doing now, speaks for itself, as well as past actions, like assassination, and I'm talking govt, not civilians per se.

The civilians in all this are mostly victims

I asked you to give examples of good news about the governments of these countries from the Western press. You haven't been able to do it.

1st..I'm not sure how much good news there is to begin with, was my point kinda. What good news can you give on..say, NK?

2nd..the sad reality is, bad news is what sells, gets clicks. Good news, probably not so much..but what good news might you expect to hear?

As far as humans go, only infants think things disappear when they close their eyes.