When did ATS become so right wing minded and politically motivated?

originally posted by: jerich0
a reply to: ExiledSpirit777

Look, when the leftsists are trying to control every though a person has, you see people in the middle, on the right or who just see it, speak.

Right wing? No. Normal people unwilling to accept this left wing agenda. Silence those you oppose, cancel anyone who is on the opposite side of your opinion, DOX people you dislike, inflict gender identity onto preschoolers, allow MEN to be women in sports when women have struggled to be the top of their game yet beaten by a male, the whole lot of it. Steal elections with evidence against you but courts rule you in favour...

Sorry to burst your bubble... But thinking people are done with it.

Thank you. I'm a libertarian at heart. More conservative leaning but the left is insane. It is a culture war that we have to win or be exterminated

Start a thread on something else , then .
Your choice .
Don't be surprised if it isn't debunked in just a few minute .

a reply to: ExiledSpirit777

It started with the mud pit, slowly but truly politics became the main theme of most discussions. I'd like to think a lot of emotions flooded over to other boards too.

Politics change too, the new left and alt right have extremist elements although the former got somewhat chased away over the last 5 years here and I do agree with the so called right that MSM is flooded with leftist talking points.

When I joined ATS their was conspiracies about neo-liberalism, we probably live under a new neo-liberalism, ironically I always considered myself a liberal lefty, these days it depends who you ask. I'd say there's clowns to the left and... Yeah, I don't identify with any of them.

a reply to: ExiledSpirit777

ATS is one of the few places that doesn't silence people for "wrongthink." It probably attracts people who have no other place to have their say.

It can be traced back to two things that happened in the 2000s and one major thing in the 2010s.

The first thing is the right-wing militia movements post 9/11, followed by the 2008 election when the right wing went #ing crazy when Clinton and Obama were running in the DEM primary leading to Obama's presidency. Finally 2016 election between Clinton and Trump leading to the Q movement and Trump's cronies actively pushing conspiracy into mainstream GOP thought for EVERYTHING. (Desantis claiming everything is some form of grooming conspiracy the latest form of this BS.)

I think the issue you may have is that most of us on here are somewhat intelligent. We look at all sides and sources to make an informed decision. Therefore, many have realized that the left is blowing smoke...2 days late, no less.

When these threads start, those on the left do not have logical arguments...they really look like fools. They rely on the government to tell them whats up. They can't think or rely on themselves.

There is a reason why conservatives are called the right....

Summed up:

"The sheep spend their who life fearing the wolf, only to be eaten by the shepard."--Paulo Coelho

The left has moved so far left that long time left liberals like Bill Maher are actually considered centrists, they never moved but the left went crazy which drove the right crazy and now the centrists are called crazy too because they are in the middle and get shot at from both sides.

ATS posters are more inclined to be free thinkers they aren't buying what the left is selling these days, so it appears ATS moved right, but really they were libertarians all along that could not get power, so when Trump came along.....his crazy was better than the lefts crazy.

Ron Paul used complain about corporatocracy in America, and almost all ATS posters agreed at the time, so when we see the Florida government fighting back against Disney we agree with it. Is that right wing ideology ....... nah just common sense.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
...but really they were libertarians all along that could not get power, so when Trump came along.....his crazy was better than the lefts crazy.

Trump isn't a Libertarian, he's not even close, he's a populist at best.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

True, but many Ron Paul supporters went over to him, one reason was to get revenge on the GOP for what they did to their guy in 2012.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
True, but many Ron Paul supporters went over to him, one reason was to get revenge on the GOP for what they did to their guy in 2012.

That's an absolutely stupid rationale and makes them not Libertarians either.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
True, but many Ron Paul supporters went over to him, one reason was to get revenge on the GOP for what they did to their guy in 2012.

That's an absolutely stupid rationale and makes them not Libertarians either.

I think there was a group that supported Paul in 08 and 12, that did not want a traditional RINO at the head of the party, Trump was not the logical next step, but it was what was available to them after Rand Paul dropped out for the 2016 election cycle.
I know some that would have voted for Tulsi Gabbard if she had won. And there were some here on ATS too.
I see a pattern of ATS posters going for those who think differently than most politicians.

The bottom line is, where is there more common sense that respects personal liberties in America right now, when you answer that question, you understand where ATS is at for its basic political perspectives.

a reply to: ExiledSpirit777

More than 6-7 years ago sport.

The Bush and (R) bashing was apparent long BEFORE 6-7 years ago 🤣🤣🤣

a reply to: ExiledSpirit777

Many are curious why you would think somebody's holding a gun to your head to open the political topics when all of them are categorized clear as a bell.

btw, you know you yourself actually started a possible bait topic in a non-political forum right? 🥥

a reply to: ExiledSpirit777
a reply to: lasvegasteddy
a reply to: Pyle

This is why you think ATS is full of right wingers

According to Biden voters
the mainstream media, liberals, progressives, Democrats

You are a far alt-right winger if:

You failed to vote for Hillary and Biden

You don't agree that Biden does NOT have any age related cognitive deficits at all, even though he is very very old.

You don't agree that shutting down US energy independence and becoming energy dependent on countries that think we are the Great Satan or who openly despise the US IS a good thing.

You don't agree that Democratic Governors who locked down their states so tight it was illegal at one point to purchase an infant car seat in one state went too far with their oppressive totalitarian policies.

You don't agree that it was perfectly OK for prominent Democrats to be photographed maskless and violating the draconian rules they forced the people they ruled to obey during COVID.

You don't agree that it is OK for Big Tech to censor anyone that happens to say the littlest thing that hurts the feelings of Democrats or makes a joke that violates the sensibilities of worshipers of liberal/progressive ideology.

You don't think Google was WONDERFUL when it created Dragonfly for the Chinese which gave the Chinese 24/7 surveillance over all phone/computer/internet activities of 100% of it's citizens to monitor them.

You don't think that China is a model for how the US should be governed as Obama said publicly when he was President and wished the US could be.

You don't think that Hunter Biden did NOT do anything wrong, ever, even though criminal acts are on video and on a laptop.

You think that the FBI IS politically in the pocket of the Democrats even though they just lost Hunter's laptop, and even though it was just proven they lied to a judge to get the ball rolling on the Trump Russia collusion impeachment effort.

You think that the massive overspending of the first two years of the Biden administration, where Democrats spent almost as much in excess "give aways'" in 2 years as the US gets in taxes in one year, greatly contributed to the massive inflation we are seeing now.

You think that famous environmentalists are hypocritical at best, and evil at worst, when they fly private jets to environmental conferences to lecture what they see as the ignorant peon masses on how to use less gas.

You don't agree that white people are born inherent oppressors and racists and history proves it

You don't like that every single TV show and movie has to have a LGBT couple in it and a LGBT story line, down to shows made for tiny children even shows that previously didn't even have heterosexual couples or love story lines.

You don't agree that kindergartners and early elementary children should be given detailed lessons on what LGBT is.

You don't agree that schools should teach elementary children how to masturbate.

You don't agree that "women with a functioning penis" who are convicted rapists and convicted sex offenders against "women with a function vagina" should be locked in a prison cell with women born XX with vaginas.

You don't agree that XY women with a penis and testicles should be participating in "womens sports" that were created because people born XY are genetically stronger and sports for XX were specifically make so people born genetically less strong can compete in sports on an equal basis with others born XX. Thus encouraging XX women to participate in and enjoy sports with an expectation they can excel and have XX women role models of enjoying sports. You do agree that this policy has resulted in genetic XY males being deemed superior to and having more rights than genetic XX females.

You think that pronoun pins are silly and people being fired for saying "he" to a person with a penis and testicles that are fully functioning but feels like a she at the moment, is right.

You don't agree that studies done by liberals and progressives at liberal institutions prove that liberals / progressives / Democrats are smarter and wiser than everyone else, and thus should tell what they view as the ignorant masses how to live their lives down to what they do do their bodies, because most people are too ignorant to properly care for themselves.


I could go on.

This is why you think so many of ATS members are right wing.

Because we believe the opposite of what people who worship at the feet of liberal /progressive / Democratic Party ideology these days think everyone must agree with, as detailed above, or else.

By or else, I mean that progressives / liberals / Democrats attack openly people who believe the above through frequent doxing / firing / getting them fired / destroying their business / destroying their reputations / destroying their lives, and do it with perverse glee and smug self satisfaction.

Sadly for you, I think more and more people these days are identifying with the statements above and think at least some of these things are not alt-right dangerous thoughts at all, but are reasonable. Thus the liberals / progressives / Democrats when they find out someone agrees with even one of these "you are an alt-right winger if" deems them forever dangerous racists / sexists / homophobes/ who must be crushed at all costs.

I believe the main problem here is that many people are using the hyped buzz words that the MSM uses for NLP engineering public opinion. These words do not actually reflect conventional vocabulary (seems to have hijacked it) and people can use the political buzz words with whatever meaning and context they want.

And sure, this is protected by free speech rights, but is it intelligent and scientific and constructive to engage the false dichotomy language when there exists far more accurate terminology that describes the categorical actions without vilifying those who may be trying in earnest to understand the big picture and right the ship, nor insulating those who have not yet ben exposed for their involvement in the engineered ubiquitous exploitation of planet Earth?

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
The bottom line is, where is there more common sense that respects personal liberties in America right now, when you answer that question, you understand where ATS is at for its basic political perspectives.

There are plenty of people not for personal liberties, it's all mouth noises, depending on the party they just want imposition of their own personal morality.

A lot of times, those "left" tend to leave when their opinion is challenged. I hope you come back to answer these questions and points.

Any discussions not authorized...

Any inflammatory statements are met with Instead of ,,,.......
Actually discussing the topic..

..the right wing is MORE anti-speech than the left.. MCCARTHY WAS A STAIN ETERNAL..!!!

I PERSONALLY loved the false ideals of merca..
I personally loved the Jesus fairy tale as a kid.

, would love to even discuss certain substances that were made in Secret

By nefarious shadow organizations..

And tied to many high profile mysterious deaths, cults, murders, etc..


Wtf... That's. A scam right there..


And so i am NUMBER 6.. escaped the village, ran home, only to turn on the radio..

Tragedy more haven't watched it..




And the minions of what I saw as a kid on Sundays.. the church kids... If you know what I mean

Try being the kid in Sunday school ridiculing the lessons..

If that statement triggered you..... see..

a reply to: ExiledSpirit777

Trump (pbuh) and Putin are our new Lords of Darkness and we must all bow down and hail the Great Ones,


Amen

a reply to: ExiledSpirit777

Nothing happened to ATS. After my 12 years posting...we've grown and adapted to the times whether 911, 2000 Millennium, 2012 End of all things...politics, injustices...the tide sometimes flows high in spots.