A Police City

Changes in Chicago, it's starting already.

They are using safety to employ these cameras. This is just a start, all of the cameras in chicago have little boxes, on each side under them. They are forcing everyone to get I-pass, if not you have to pay double the toll.

www.suntimes.com...

Places in Europe have had cameras that take a pic of your license plate if you're speeding for a long time. I'm sure they've been in use for awhile in parts of the US and other places of the developed world for a while too. We've had similar cameras in my area for years set up at 4-way traffic light stops that take your license plate's pic if you blow through a red light. Not sure what to make of the fact they're in vans, that part kind of puzzled me.

I'd be more concerned with the huge network of CC video cameras popping up around major US cities like they've used in London for awhile that take a video of EVERYTHING - not just speeders... and they're actively monitored at that! That is, if the cameras bothered me.

Originally posted by AlphaHumana
I'd be more concerned with the huge network of CC video cameras popping up around major US cities like they've used in London for awhile that take a video of EVERYTHING - not just speeders... and they're actively monitored at that! That is, if the cameras bothered me.

I sure wish entire cities were wired up as Livecams that were viewable online. I mean, taxpayer money paid for them right? What harm would there be in putting them online? I'd love to peoplewatch from home.

That would actually be pretty sweet to watch all the cameras from your own computer, heck people could actually supplement the police force that way! When a crime happens that's viewed on a camera not being monitored at that moment by the police, you've still got 1000s of alert citizens who can dial 911. They'd probably claim it'd allow perverts or something to watch people to get their daily routine so they can stalk them or something though

don't forget things like that would allow a parrent to see that their child is a a club and not at the library like he prommised also keep in mind that you caouldn't get away with seeing a friends girlfriend (even if it is innocent). do you realy want someone to be able to know EXACTLY where you are at all times?

i can understand that there could be bennifets but anything can be abused. or twisted for gain. heck just tape a show you are watching and turn the volume off. then wright down exactly what is happening. then compare with the volume on. i bet that even though a tv show is pridictable that you won't be 100% correct. just think of talking to some guy you don't know, then next thing you know you are being arrested for something.

Yeah, you're right, some transactions could look like drug transactions or something, but if and when the cops get there they can just check you out and see you're not carrying anything you shouldn't be. I think they're mainly you to catch things like car theft and assaults and stuff like that so cops can arrive quickly to stop it and/or identify assailants... Can you imagine the look on the face of a middle-aged businessman in a suit walking down the street with a paper bag they just saw exchanged for cash (which turns out to be his lunch) that gets tackled from behind by the cops?! The look on his face alone could win the $100k on America's Funniest Home Videos har har.

Originally posted by AlphaHumana
Yeah, you're right, some transactions could look like drug transactions or something, but if and when the cops get there they can just check you out and see you're not carrying anything you shouldn't be. I think they're mainly you to catch things like car theft and assaults and stuff like that so cops can arrive quickly to stop it and/or identify assailants... Can you imagine the look on the face of a middle-aged businessman in a suit walking down the street with a paper bag they just saw exchanged for cash (which turns out to be his lunch) that gets tackled from behind by the cops?!

The look on his face alone could win the $100k on America's Funniest Home Videos har har.

of course not to mention the lawsuit for harrasment, wrongfull arrest and police brutrality that could resault. that one "mistake" could be realy expensive then multiply it by a lot.

i hadn't even thought about possible lawsuits that could result. could be fun.

A similar radar / photo system has been in place in and around Washington DC for several years. I don't know if has anything to do with the NWO, but I can assure you that it is an effective tool for decreasing speeding and red-light-running, (if you know wherer they are). In particular, on Western Ave, in NW, there is a radar system that takes a photo if you go 10mph over the 25mph speed limit. 25mph? this is a main road for many cross-city commuters that are now forced to a crawl. and it works.

I remember a few years back I was riding in a car with my grandfather in the rural area outside of Groningen, Netherlands, and we came across an electronic sign with orange letters that came alive as we approached that said (in my grandfather's brief translation - I don't speak Dutch) "Slow Down" he indicated to me that he was speeding a bit and that if he didn't heed the sign's warning a few hundred yards up the road a camera would be waiting to take his snapshot... It just sounds so quaint and bluntly cute, that sign, "slow down."

I agree it cuts down on speeding and red-light runners, and when used in that way I find it 100% agreeable without a doubt.

I recently took a trip to Taiwan, radar detectors are illegal, why? because ever 100 to 150 feet of road has a radar and camera. The car I was in was constantly saying "blbablabbalabal" (I don't speak chinese) but essentially "Radar ahead" , "camera ahead"

Years ago Athens Georgia got a multimillion dollar camera system installed, but the guy who was trained to run the thing quit before it was operational, the pay was too low, so for the year I was there it was never turned on.

There are over 1 million camera's with their eye on public spaces in New York City.

Ill take a picture of the signs in Canterbury stating that Big Brother will be watching us more. New posters have been placed around my city informing us of new CCTV being put into place.

B'ham is giving in. They just announced the use of cameras in parts of the city to "follow speeders and get their license numbers to notifv them of thier actions." to quote a police officer. No tickets will be given since it is done by camera. Sounds odd. And this coming from a reserved cynical skeptical watcher type ie me. Trust no one.

Id be curious how many are pointed at/near places of interest to the powers that be........guns shops....porn stores.....meeting houses of various associations....

on a lighter note...we have a cable channel that provides us with access to video cameras throughout the state.....all on major roadways though.

Bellwood, a western burb of chicago is copleted with cameras. I see the over all benefits, but the powers that be always, not some of the times, abuses the system in some way. Question, for all the people who are in cities with this system. Do they send ticket by mail or is a trooper pulling the individual over?

In DC they send you a ticket in the mail. It's rellly impersonal!

It seems like they are supporting a very bad habit of to many donut breaks. Hell, will there be a need for them anymore?

The Notbored website has a lot of camera maps around the US. I think there is going to eventually be a large gap between the poor and wealthy.

There are a lot less jobs being created and kept in certain countries and there is a sweeping consumer demand. As technology advances, there are more people who want to enjoy it.

I think that's what you will see soon. A silent class war.

True, but the class war has always been there. It will get worse. The middle class is getting squeezed.