Concerning Reality and Truth

According to our best educated guess, the universe is almost 14 billion years old.

The earth is just over 3.5 billion years old.


Mankind has made incredible leaps in knowledge over the last few centuries. If there's another civilization out there with a million year headstart, can we begin to fathom how they perceive reality?

Is it possible that we could have been created by an advanced race, full of different viewpoints and personalities?

Is it possible that they have acted through intermediaries (priests) and that some sect still have this knowledge to this day?

If these beings are able to manipulate the 5th dimension wrt gravity, electromagnetism and other fundamental forces, is it reasonable to say religious beliefs and UFO encounters are intrinsically connected? What is the difference between an encounter with an advanced alien being and an angel or a demon?

While I am not a believer of religion, my intuition tells me that one cannot simply discard these tales of old.

A certain element of truth in a haystack of deception.


It is said that the negative and positive energies that humans generate almost act as nourishment upon which these beings 'feed'. I am not in a position to add value to this part of the discussion, as it is a very contentious subject of which I have zero experience with.


I am also curious about cycles in human history. It would seem that humanity rises and falls in an ever repeating cycle and that the cycles are planned out long in advance. Amazing technologies have simply vanished as each cycle comes to an end. Only for the human race to start anew with a new set of
religious values and a different path of discovery. The pyramids around the world attest to that. A lot of mysteries point to amazing technology employed in ancient times.

From the tabernacle in the old testament to the amazing architecture belonging to ancient societies long gone. The writings they have left us with, attest to the very real relationship they had with higher beings.


Are we once again at the end of such a cycle where destruction must occur to wipe the slate clean and start afresh?

Who are the people that facilitate this process and have the knowledge of continuity about this whole process?


What mistakes must we overcome before we are welcomed into a broader, cosmic society?

Judging by the direction things are heading, we have failed once again and will have to start over.

All these constructs that are in place to guide humanity seems flawed and perhaps a type of cargo cult holdover.

Religions seems flawed and more a case of I support my team no matter what.

Does it feel like truth? Not to me anyway.

The hold that the financial system has on the entire world also seems like the ultimate hijacking of our shared destiny.

The pyramid structure indicating we are all in this together, but there are levels to your importance and worth, and for you to know your place.

Those at the top do not live by the rules which they make for us lower on the pyramid.

That alone tells me that this whole concept of good and evil, of deception and truth, the very fabric of reality itself, has been manipulated to the point where you could say that humanity's destiny has been usurped.

It's clear there is a formula. It's not so clear to me what that formula is.

a reply to: 19Bones79

Humans are doomed because they are against reality......

There actually isn't any thing apart from reality ..but thought says there is.

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a reply to: Itisnowagain


I'll have to watch that a couple of times.

Is he a chicken or an egg guy?

Either way, it seems like a closed infinite loop, which brings about more confusion to my little brain.


Someone in the comments section wrote "thought is the source of self."

It feels like he's saying something very profound without actually saying anything at all.

There doesn't seem to be a conclusion and thus he leaves the viewer hanging.

Mysticism by any other name.

More questions than answers.

a reply to: 19Bones79
Watch it again and again.....

David Bohm is a philosophical physicist.

a reply to: 19Bones79
"Someone in the comments section wrote "thought is the source of self."

"David Bohm: There Is No Thinker Producing Thought"

a reply to: 19Bones79
Have you read the "Enuma Elish" and the "Epic of Gilgamesh"? These are among the oldest creation and flood stories we have at present. You might find them interesting considering the topic.

a reply to: Itisnowagain


This video is a bit easier to comprehend.

a reply to: 19Bones79

I digress topic to a methaphor...Here you go:

You have a live chicken next to only an egg. Which came 1st?

The chicken...who stands there LIVE right now ..IS already a chicken ...whereas that egg? Only has the potential ...to become a chicken.

Your welcome...

So that what exists in the "now"... supersedes that which may or may not (break, crack,etc) exist in the future.

a reply to: Klassified

I've read about them through Sitchin's books back in the day.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

You have a live chicken next to only an egg.

A bit of an oversimplification on your part which renders the philosophical nature of the question obsolete imo.

a reply to: 19Bones79

If too oversimplified for you...here you go. Try to relate...

To simplify for you: truth...whether neg or positive...exists as "truth"...or defines itself...whether one agrees or not: it exists.

Once one understands we will become the "ancients" of the future ..perhaps we can we see...that our "ancients" past, morph into us "now"....and our future innocents become the "ancients" of the future.

As in "Child is Father to the Man".

To your point: we are in an endless loop over n over n over...we just are now understanding that...and the sooner the better...nothing ends...only re-morphs....in the next and back again and we can plan our our futures.

I'm reminded of a perpetual motion machine: once started, it never stops ..I guess the greater issue is....WHO started it?

In trying to understand what this world is and how it all works, the complexity is seemly limitless. Look into one topic deep enough and it just keeps getting deeper. When looking into some of these instances of premonitions, maybe there are some limits as some events maybe fixed somewhere? Some of these things can be a bit hit and miss at times so who really knows?

I consider this world as so complex, not even god really knows where it is all going? Even a a really super duper AI system is going to fall short in an analogue universe. It might get close, but a computer limited by numbers will never be able to process the number infinity, only a rough approximation of this concept. The value of Pi is still being calculated and growing in length at about +7 Million digits last I heard. There is a $1 Million bounty on anyone that can proved there is a final prime number and what that is.

For God to get us and it there, some rules have surfaced, the structure of reality, matter, energy, chemistry, biology. Still some gaps in understanding how it works, doing better than a few hundred years ago. The law of the jungle is a popular one. It does play rough, makes the winners tough. History books is full of booms and busts, like the growth rings of a tree.

To hold and build a civilized society, the law of man is important. The Bible is an important document here for the city we have today. I know it is getting a bit fractured with interpretations and points of focus. For the general life, standards and teaching of Jesus, it provides a good, respectful approach to people. It's not always easy giving someone who steals your shirt, your shoes.

With the current Australian legislation around 2 Million pages, tough one to keep up with. The 10 Commandments by Moses is a good start, but even that is under attack these days. With all the challenges going on, it is important to remain aware of any spiritual aspects and what implications may exist? Some say nothing exists and are driven by their own personal gain. Some say something exists and are mindful of their greater community.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Great quote by Bohm in this video. When asked if he thought that the desire to compete is a human weakness he replies
''It's not a weakness, it's a mistake''

a reply to: 19Bones79

Good answers should lead to more questions. Bad answers might not allow more questions. A bad answer is ''this is it'' while a good answer is ''this could be''.

I think that seeking good questions is much more important than seeking answers because the more questions we allow ourselves to think then allows answers to come along in their own good time. Moments like the famous ''aha moments'' or epiphanies do not come about by asking one question but rather are a product of many questions coming together in ones mind, oft times in the recesses of our subconscious, so that the answer then pops for us not so much as an answer but more as a realization.

I only offer that bit not as ''this is it'' but only '' this could be''.