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Defense Minister Shoigu's report to President Putin on Mariupol

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posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

Because the russians trying to steal Ukrainian land were pretending to be civilians and kept shooting at Ukrainian forces.

There is nothing improper about fight back against foreign invaders trying to steal land.

I've said so MANY times, why pretend I haven't?


I understood that the civilians of Donetsk and Lugansk had been pretending to be civilians all their lives, but the shelling of their homes finally revealed the truth that they are not human.



posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: turretless

No I cal out the Russian view point that all Ukrainians are Nazis.



posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

No I cal out the Russian view point that all Ukrainians are Nazis.


I have not written anywhere on the forum that all Ukrainians are Nazis.

Why do you attribute this point of view to me?



posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: turretless

Gee I wonder.. can you explain again how the President of Ukraine, who is Jewish, is a Nazi?



posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

Gee I wonder.. can you explain again how the President of Ukraine, who is Jewish, is a Nazi?


And why is it impossible.

After all, Russians are being persecuted, not Jews.

What does the Jew care about Russians being killed?



posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: turretless

"The Jew."?

Oh, bit of a giveaway.......



posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

Because the russians trying to steal Ukrainian land were pretending to be civilians and kept shooting at Ukrainian forces.

There is nothing improper about fight back against foreign invaders trying to steal land.

I've said so MANY times, why pretend I haven't?


I understood that the civilians of Donetsk and Lugansk had been pretending to be civilians all their lives, but the shelling of their homes finally revealed the truth that they are not human.




Funny.

Perhaps it will become true someday if you only repeat the lie often enough.

How many times do you think it will take?



posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: turretless

If your going to accuse him of being a Nazi I want to see how you came to that conclusion.

No Russians are not being persecuted. That is a Russian lie.
No Ukraine is not engaging in ethnic cleansing - That is a Russian lie.
Zelenskyy's issue is with the Russian government and the Russian armed forces and he has nothing against Russian people.

Why is Russia engaging in ethnic cleansing / genocide in Mariupol?
Why do you insist on repeating Russian lies and when you get called put you cant support your position.
Why are the Russians claiming they are there to denazify Ukraine while at the same time they use Nazi methods?
Why do you call Zelenksyy a Nazi and yet you cant explain why?

You really should educate yourself on the topic instead of parroting Russian propaganda.



posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: PatriotGames4u

That is his problem... he refuses to think for himself.



posted on Apr, 26 2022 @ 09:22 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: turretless

Gee I wonder.. can you explain again how the President of Ukraine, who is Jewish, is a Nazi?


I think that would be hard to explain. I am still trying to figure out why Ihor Kolomoyskyi a Jewish man and self-described godfather of Ukraine funded Nazi Battalions like Aidar, Azov, Dnipro, and Donbas militias or why he has a swastika hanging over the entrance of one of his businesses.




posted on May, 6 2022 @ 09:31 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

That is because you cant explain it any more than Putin can.

So just stop with the propaganda.



posted on May, 6 2022 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra


I was being facetious.

It is very easy to explain.

Billions and billions of dollars. A simple term "greed."



posted on May, 6 2022 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

So your saying Putin is a Nazi.. about time you joined the rest of us in reality.

Putin is listed as the richest man on planet Earth.
Putin sees everything that Russia owns as his.
Putin sees everything that his neighboring countries have, as his.

Yes - Putin is a greedy little # and used the Nazi playbook just like Hitler did.

All Putin needs to do is go into his bunker and eat a bullet.
edit on 6-5-2022 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 6 2022 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra


I'd even settle for immediately leaving Ukraine and paying for what he destroyed there.



posted on May, 6 2022 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Xcathdra


I'd even settle for immediately leaving Ukraine and paying for what he destroyed there.





Western countries are discussing giving Ukraine access to all the money that was seized from Russia (reserves - $300 billion). Its also been suggested that all seized oligarch items be auctioned off with Ukraine receiving the proceeds.



posted on May, 7 2022 @ 12:01 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Putin lives rent free in your head. lol

Why do you think Zelensky can't be a Nazi?



posted on May, 7 2022 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Xcathdra

Putin lives rent free in your head. lol

Why do you think Zelensky can't be a Nazi?




Why do you think he is a nazi?

Has he been invading non threatening countries in a war of territorial conquest like hitler & putin?

Or did russia just say so because russia wants to steal more Ukrainian land and thinks calling Ukrainians nazis will somehow justify a russian invasion?



posted on May, 7 2022 @ 12:17 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Xcathdra


I'd even settle for immediately leaving Ukraine and paying for what he destroyed there.





Western countries are discussing giving Ukraine access to all the money that was seized from Russia (reserves - $300 billion). Its also been suggested that all seized oligarch items be auctioned off with Ukraine receiving the proceeds.



Sounds like a good start.

russia's oil & gas reserves will likely pay for the rest.



posted on May, 7 2022 @ 12:32 AM
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I am just waiting for a reason why he couldn't possibly be one.

It is undeniable that he supports Nazis. Even calling them heroes. (Azov)

Historical ones as well.




"There are indisputable heroes. Stepan Bandera is a hero for a certain part of Ukrainians, and this is a normal and cool thing. He was one of those who defended the freedom of Ukraine. But I think that when we name so many streets, bridges by the same name, this is not quite right," he said in an interview with RBC-Ukraine.


www.rbc.ua...

A country that idolizes Nazis to the point they have too many streets and bridges named after one.

I always laugh when I see Zelenskys full name. Putin's nemesis is Volodymyr. lol

Ukraine refugees are sure showing Nato countries who is in charge.








edit on 7-5-2022 by Grimpachi because: grammar



posted on May, 7 2022 @ 01:09 AM
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a reply to: Grimpachi


Because russian propaganda says so?




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