Fentanyl, Suicides', And Covid Deaths Don't Explain The 40% Increase In All Cause Motality

originally posted by: Snarl

I haven't seen piles of bodies laying around here either.

UK is like 95% vaccinated, so I was hoping I could get a nice summer cottage for like 20k with some land, but NO those bastards are not dying.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

Where is the data, and why aren't the same trends being observed elsewhere?

This is the part that gets me over and over. People are cherry picking very small groups and saying oh the vaccine is doing it all, like the deal with the Medical Readiness Reporting System (MRRS). When we ask that is just Navy so why isn't the Airforce and Army systems reporting similar numbers, or the rest of the world for men ages 18 to 35? We get just more of the same, the answer to this is a Bit Chute post of some Navy doc saying everyone is dying now, or some other stupid video. No real answer there.

The only real reply from anyone here I have seen is someone suggested that young and highly fit men could be seeing a higher number of reactions in some areas like inflammation of the heart. That could be the case, at least they went down a path we can look at.

The CDC say the excess deaths are due to an increase in heart disease, hypertension and Alzheimer’s disease, caused by having had covid which may develop into long-term health issues.

The long-term health issues are exactly the same as people who are claiming vaccine injury are having.

Long-covid is the term given to people who get covid but continue to suffer for months with serious health issues that show no improvement.

Long-covid vaccine is the term given for people who haven't had covid- just the vaccine- and develop the same symptoms as those who have long-covid.

The cross-over of symptoms and serious health issues makes it impossible to separate which is the actual cause. Maybe it's a little of both; for certain we'll never know.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

We're hearing them saying these things, but they're simply not showing the data to back it up.

Where is the data, and why aren't the same trends being observed elsewhere?

For example, if you see increased mortality among seniors you also see decreased utilization of products and services aimed at seniors.

I’m with you.

Fortunately, I can’t say people around me are dropping dead all over the place. But, it has been made to sound like that’s the case.

I also don’t know anyone, nor hear second hand stories, of first hand accounts of mass deaths.

So, We need data. What populations, what age brackets, socioeconomic status, race, etc. are seeing these material upticks in mortality.

I’m not saying it isn’t possible, though. Rather, I’m saying a mass casualty event like this should be easily uncovered with data.

Who knows… all I know is my “gut” tells me this whole COVID saga is far from over…

I'll just say this... a week ago I had to do a 10 hour drive (in Australia) and during that drive I saw at least 1 ambulance an hour. There was so many driving around I couldn't help but take notice. I do long trips several times a year and I've never seen anything like it before. I started to think about what could be causing it, and we haven't had any recent spikes in Covid cases which could explain it.

It's extremely hard for me to believe this health crisis is not a result of the vaccines, considering I was forced to call an ambulance for my father only a few weeks ago, and we know it was a reaction to the vaccine because he has reacted badly to the last two shots. Then I saw this thread the other day: Never before so busy in emergency departments: 'Nobody dares to link to vaccine'.

Then there's these MSM news reports which talk about an ambulance crisis because they are being flooded with emergency calls and they can't keep up. The MSM is reporting on this so it's clearly not some fake conspiracy theory, something has recently put a huge amount of strain on our health systems, I've seen it myself, and it seems to be ramping up over the last month or two.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I live in a small coastal village in NZ, before the rollout if you heard the siren go off it was something like once or twice a week, now it's going off twice a day. Something has definitely changed. This has been noticed on many various threads not just ATS. It went off during the rollout, slowed down for a week after, and is now going off again.

For anyone in this thread doubting this is legitimate, you are wrong. As a Vice President with a life insurance company who oversees 34 agents, I can confirm that death claims are way up and for odd reasons over the past year. I personally just did a death claim a couple of weeks ago for a male in his early 30s. Wife came out of the shower, walked into their bedroom and found him dead on the floor, autopsy “inconclusive”. The widow has a 3 year old and is expecting in September. Another recent one, another male, early 30s, in shape, heart attack while driving, car crashed of course, dead. Widow is left with 3 young children. These are just a couple of examples of what I have been dealing with this past year. Thank whatever higher power there may be, that these families actually had policies for themselves. I feel for the families that did not have the foresight to have life insurance for themselves. If you are a person who has children, or anyone relying on you financially and you do not have yourself covered, you are an irresponsible POS, sorry just facts. Death claims are up. This is a fact and I am confirming from a different, national company. We are also in Ireland, Canada, and New Zealand.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: andy06shake
How the majority of the people in the UK are not all dead with AIDS yet.

LOL ... there is that.

I haven't seen piles of bodies laying around here either.

Do you ever leave your house?

a reply to: anonentity

Well the last time I did a long drive was around Christmas, and back then I didn't notice any abnormal ambulance activity. So something changed over the last 3-4 months. At no point throughout the pandemic have I seen anything to actually a indicate a real pandemic was occurring, I even went to the hospital a few times and it was mostly empty. But now it would seem there is an actual health crisis happening, and the MSM treats it as if it were a complete mystery, or they blame long-term Covid-19.

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if long-term Covid-19 symptoms were part of the reason. If they knew it was a hybrid virus containing other viruses which cause long term issues, it would explain why they are so scared of Covid-19. But if I were to put money on it, I'd bet the primary reason so many people are suddenly getting sick is because of the recent booster rollouts. The spike protein is clearly toxic, it does damage to our blood vessels, which is why we see things like clotting and heart attacks.

a reply to: Narvasis

Then surely this will be hitting the bottom line at some stage. Do Insurance companies actually pay insurance if they have the risk levels wrong? All the extra payouts cant have been accounted for in the profit payout ratio. If the life insurance policies have to keep paying out exponentially how long can they remain solvent, and what happens when they can't pay out anymore? surely at some stage, they will have some serious problems.
These are indiscriminate deaths in working-age people, small plane accidents where there is no co-pilot, People driving cars, causing multiple accidents, I am on a small main road, and if there is an accident the road gets closed for hours while the investigation takes place, which makes the trip to the larger centers slightly problematic as the road closures become more frequent as well, not everyone drops quietly at home, they might be doing something which can take out other people.

originally posted by: Brotherman
Maybe the mortality is actually normal but looks increased I can think of a sum of about 81 million democrats that never existed needing to have their asses covered if you know what I’m saying 😄

Left/right paradigm

The methods of control..

And so many fall for it, still .

a reply to: anonentity

This would take literally hours to explain because there are so many different ways money works in the financial services industry, but I will keep it as short as possible. Forgive misspellings, I have had a couple beers!

So first, yes, a company will pay out if they they miscalculate the risk, of which there are multiple different kinds. It’s uncommon for the underwriters of a company to miscalculate risk however though because they have access to all of your records, including driving records as well as medical records. This can also come down to an agent having to pay out the claim if they lied on the clients application for them (which is extremely rare). However once approved for life insurance (whole life specifically), you can not medically disqualify after having been approved and are out of the policies look-back period. So, if a person is 25 years old and gets a policy for themselves then die of a heart attack at 30, the company still has to pay out on the claim even though the calculation of that risk would be incredibly low for something like that happening. If a 30 year old applies for life insurance on the other hand, and had a heart attack at the age of 25 they wouldn’t be eligible so no company would insure them because they have a very high risk to die at a young age. There is also something called accident insurance as well but I’m not going into that due to time.

This leads into your second question about the sustainability of a company and having to pay out claims. The first answer to this is as I just said, a company will not insure someone who is too old, too unhealthy, or simply too much of a risk. The rates of these specific insurances, especially life insurance, are based on age, health, and previous habits, such as driving and drugs (an example of this is a person who has 3 or more dwis/duis on their driving record, they will be uninsurable). Then an entire other end of a (successful) life insurance company is that they have accountants and bankers working with them. One way they continuously make money, and lots of it, is by keeping everyone’s policy amounts who are still living (this is hundreds of millions to billions of dollars), and their premiums, in one hugeass interest account. So it’s money making more money for the company.

So to sum it up for you, the only way a big life insurance company goes belly up, is if the economy completely fails (this would have to be worse than a depression, it would have to be completely collapse). Or there is a mass casualty event like the country got nuked or something, which would most likely lead to economic collapse anyways.

Hope I answered your questions clearly! I didn’t really understand the second half of your post about planes and roads but that’s ok! Be safe out there!

kinda crazy how its literally the same people over and over pushing the narrative on this site... so much so that i know them all by name... i just don't understand.... what's the point of being on a conspiracy website if they're just gona push the same crap that's been forced down our throats for that past two years.... i mean couldn't we just turn on cnn?

pretty sure we're here to discuss the possibility of the other options.... but these same people (almost like their being paid) say the same stuff over and over (like its being read from the script)

I personally have not formed a 100% opinion on this subject... i think ideas are better cause they're easier to change then a belief... but the more i research... the more its swaying to one side....

Let the attacks begin.

a reply to: Narvasis

Assuming that the insured was the cause of multiple claims against them. It would not be the one claim getting paid out which would stuff up the risk assessment, thanks for your detailed reply.

originally posted by: nugget1

The cross-over of symptoms and serious health issues makes it impossible to separate which is the actual cause. Maybe it's a little of both; for certain we'll never know.

This one is actually quite simple, you just need to do some data mining and statistical analysis.

For example, you can compare high and low vaxxed communities.

This was how they finally proved that the MMR doesn't cause autism. They used data from Japan where the single # was used for much longer to data from regions that adopted the MMR really early on and found that autism rates were functionally identical.

My home country is very highly vaxxed and we're don't have a single report of long vax or whatever you want to call it. I don't have a link as I'm on my phone but from memory we don't have a single case of vax side effect starting more than about a week after getting the shot. 99 percent of the time it's 1 to 3 days.

Maybe you've got a lot of transvaxxers, and these are just regular effects of covid?

a reply to: AaarghZombies
I'm not sure what country you're from, but there are numerous blogs where people from all over the world tell the story of how ill the became after being vaccinated, and how months of suffering horribly the medical specialists insist it can't possibly be vaccine related.
Since the medical community won't acknowledge them the world can just pretend they don't exist, if they so choose.

a reply to: Narvasis

Do you know if it is true that some insurance companies somewhere in the world have refused payout to vaccine injured clients on the basis of the injection being experimental?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

All claims without any evidence. Meanwhile, the most injected country on the planet (Israel) is reported as having massive bad reactions.

But, hey, what're facts when some anonymous face makes some anonymous claim many many times?

a reply to: incoserv

I can’t answer that question, so no, I don’t know whether it’s true or not. What I can tell you with certainty is that insurance laws vary state by state in the US. An example of this is that with a company like Aflac. Everywhere else it’s just Aflac, but in New York State it has to have a different name due to state laws, so only in NY is it called Aflac of New York (stupid I know). Then the difference from country to country I would imagine is even greater.

This is a story that could also easily be misconstrued. There could have been a couple of families out there where a person had an adverse reaction to the “vaccine” but had an accidental policy that they didn’t completely understand. So let’s say someone developed myocarditis and tried to claim on it, a company wouldn’t cover something internal like that having to do with the heart, if they had a policy that specifically covered accidents but thought otherwise, then you have a story.

a reply to: incoserv

I can’t answer that question, so no, I don’t know whether it’s true or not. What I can tell you with certainty is that insurance laws vary state by state in the US. An example of this is that with a company like Aflac. Everywhere else it’s just Aflac, but in New York State it has to have a different name due to state laws, so only in NY is it called Aflac of New York (stupid I know). Then the difference from country to country I would imagine is even greater.

This is a story that could also easily be misconstrued. There could have been a couple of families out there where a person had an adverse reaction to the “vaccine” but had an accidental policy that they didn’t completely understand. So let’s say someone developed myocarditis and tried to claim on it, a company wouldn’t cover something internal like that having to do with the heart, if they had a policy that specifically covered accidents but thought otherwise, then you have a story.