It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

FAITH in GOD / JESUS / xxxxx - the lie that keeps giving. Faith Springs Eternal!

page: 1
7
<<   2 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 04:39 PM
link   
Faith is like hope. It springs eternal. Faith is uncertain. Faith is not on solid footing. Faith is a LIE, in a manner of speaking. Just as HOPE leads to WORRY.

"But if you could only have a little more faith, god will reward you! Just a little more!" /s





Let's be faithful to one another. Through sickness and old age. Blah blah blah.



I'm sorry, what % of marriages end in divorce? And many of those that don't are just for show, just for the kids, or semi-broken. How many affairs of the heart are out there? How many marriage counselors exist? Sure, there are some that are truly good partnerships / unions, but how many? It was easier to maintain a marriage in the past then today...it's a more complex world. A world that tests the soul more.


"I HOPE that hot girl will go out with me."



"Oh...it turns out she's a lesbian. Oh, it turns out she's wearing all this makeup and looks ugly without it. Damn that was a good Instagram filter. What a Photoshop job! I was fooled! Camera angles!"


I have FAITH in these COVID vaccines. I have FAITH that my TEAM is going to win. Have some faith, I'll come back (from the war). I have FAITH in Joe Biden.

Booster shot # what? How many people's teams have lost after so many having faith? How many have not returned from war? What's the inflation rate and gas price now? How about that dementia?

--

What's the alternative to FAITH? Well that's to KNOW. To KNOW something has a much higher bar. Much higher standard (You have more evidence / proof, whatever that may be). Of course, you could still be wrong if YOU KNOW, so better to "NOT KNOW" anything. Just EXPERIENCE. CAUSE & EFFECT. & OBSERVATIONS.


FAith also starts with FA. Like FAke, FAlse, FAlsehood, FAllacy...maybe some others...too lazy to look it up.

Well..many with "endless strong FAith" are going to cling to it to the bitter end. The majority. Whether they be atheist, christian, muslim, buddhist, don't care agnostic, or whatever. Zoroastrian anyone? Oh, can't forget the Jews...or rather the JEW-ish. But that's another story/post.

Be my guest...the End Times demands a body count, why not throw yourself in the pit for sure....the pit of those who will not evolve /change. Evolution is true -- to a certain extent. We're just reaching another inflection point!

So the conspiracy is that FAITH has been spun into a positive.....when in reality, it's not something we need. But like HOPE, it's not always something you can just turn off. How do you stop hoping? What causes hope?

Know DIE self.

edit on 12-4-2022 by dontneedaname because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 04:43 PM
link   
Don't Try.
That's all we need to know.

Don't try to believe, or have faith, or make projections.

Animals don't 'try'.
They don't 'care'.

Us humans are the ones with the problems.

If there is an omnipotent God, then what is the point of trying. You are already in the program. The goal is to be who you are and not what you want.

Do not want. Do not try.


edit on 12-4-2022 by EmmanuelGoldstein because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 04:43 PM
link   
a reply to: dontneedaname

Hebrews 11:1
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the euidence of things not seen.”



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 05:01 PM
link   
What’s the reason for your post?

You (and everyone else) need Jesus. He is the most deserving of all of our faith, and the reason for hope… (the only reason for true hope.) He is the Good News.

I’ll include you in prayer.
edit on 4/12/2022 by japhrimu because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 05:39 PM
link   


You (and everyone else) need Jesus.


Wrong. You only "need" Jesus if you've been tricked into thinking you do.

Good luck with your fantasy.



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 06:02 PM
link   
Faith is not a lie.

Faith is a path to the truth that you know is on the way home.



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 06:45 PM
link   
a reply to: dontneedaname
Your threads marginalizing others belief systems come off as microaggression, leaving me to wonder if your hatred of God is based on an overly strict religious upbringing or not having your prayers answered.

There is a saying, 'where there is much hate there was once much love'. I'm sorry for whatever happened to make you feel abandoned or let down.



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 07:06 PM
link   
a reply to: dontneedaname

Faith and Jesus/religion/government are not mutually exclusive. Faith is an underlying survival tool that supports courage; courage to put one foot in front of the another, courage to commit to life.


edit on 12-4-2022 by Sookiechacha because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 08:02 PM
link   
a reply to: dontneedaname

Making some strange theological assumptions there
Faith is requested, its faith in Jesus, that He will do as He has promised and bring justice, end the suffering and bring His believers into a time of rest.
The bible doesnt teach its followers to have faith in girlfriends, people, marriage, medicine, Biden or sports teams.
Your comprehension of the bible is pretty standard but built on a false premise

Matthew 5:43-48
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO HATE YOU, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He (God) makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, AND SENDS RAIN ON THE JUST AND ON THE UNJUST.

People are broken, hurt and in need, Gods love transcend this life, we all struggle through it. Christians have a future promise not a now (life will be easy) promise as you suggest



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 09:18 PM
link   

originally posted by: dontneedaname

So the conspiracy is that FAITH has been spun into a positive.....when in reality, it's not something we need. But like HOPE, it's not always something you can just turn off. How do you stop hoping? What causes hope?

Know DIE self.



name above all names...Jesus Christ.
edit on 12-4-2022 by TruthJava because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 09:25 PM
link   
a reply to: dontneedaname

“Give me the storm and tempest of thought and action, rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith! Banish me from Eden when you will; but first let me eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge!”
― Robert G. Ingersoll, The Works Of Robert G. Ingersoll, Vol. Iii



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 09:26 PM
link   
a reply to: dontneedaname


Be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 09:32 PM
link   
a reply to: dontneedaname

Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
edit on 12-4-2022 by infolurker because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2022 @ 09:44 PM
link   

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: dontneedaname

Making some strange theological assumptions there
Faith is requested, its faith in Jesus, that He will do as He has promised and bring justice, end the suffering and bring His believers into a time of rest.
The bible doesnt teach its followers to have faith in girlfriends, people, marriage, medicine, Biden or sports teams.
Your comprehension of the bible is pretty standard but built on a false premise

Matthew 5:43-48
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO HATE YOU, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He (God) makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, AND SENDS RAIN ON THE JUST AND ON THE UNJUST.

People are broken, hurt and in need, Gods love transcend this life, we all struggle through it. Christians have a future promise not a now (life will be easy) promise as you suggest

Well said.



posted on Apr, 13 2022 @ 03:30 AM
link   

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: dontneedaname

Hebrews 11:1
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the euidence of things not seen.”



HOPIUM...

MMM..

the history of religion, the warring tribes conquering became much easier to subdue, codify, control, manipulate, and keep in a vassal state..

God said.. we are better than you. God wants us to do this, and for you to help us.. you can't go to our heaven but hey, 👋 he loves us all the same

That's why our original story states we are special,. We practice it, here... Here is a version for you guys, it's partly your previous beliefs, mixed with ours.

In Europe churches, white Jesus, in African churches, black Jesus, etc...

See. Simple...in a few hundred years.. the slaves KNOW IT ALL...hah



posted on Apr, 13 2022 @ 10:35 AM
link   
a reply to: dontneedaname

To have faith in Christ is to trust in Christ. Any falling away from faith is usually down to the individual. Christ will never abandon you ever, it's up to you.



posted on Apr, 13 2022 @ 11:08 AM
link   
a reply to: Smigg




Christ will never abandon you ever, it's up to you.


How do you know that?

If you "know that", then it isn't faith anymore, is it?



posted on Apr, 13 2022 @ 02:43 PM
link   
As a fart disappears and is forgotten in the wind, so will be your soul.

Enjoy what little of life you have left.

a reply to: dontneedaname



posted on Apr, 13 2022 @ 03:19 PM
link   


a reply to: dontneedaname Your threads marginalizing others belief systems come off as microaggression, leaving me to wonder if your hatred of God is based on an overly strict religious upbringing or not having your prayers answered. There is a saying, 'where there is much hate there was once much love'. I'm sorry for whatever happened to make you feel abandoned or let down.


Seen too much LIE TO ME? re: Microaggressions.

Sometimes FAITH can make you rich. I held my Amazon / Tesla / Google stock! I knew Bezos / Musk would do me good! I have FAITH in them. Sometimes it can make you poor as you hold a stock while it goes to ZERO.

----

"I have FAITH in Charles, he'll make me rich."

"What's Charles last name?"

"Ponzi, why do you ask?"

-----

To evolve you have to get rid of all hate. Every last bit. But that isn't conveyed on a 2-D board.

Is it better to have FAITH in God? Or is it better to "KNOW" who God is?

Or is it better to EXPERIENCE God?

If by the definition of many - God is almighty and powerful and created everything or most.

Then why haven't more people gone out into the world and explored it? Questioned more?

Traveled to 80+ countries here, lived in multiple...been to most all prominent centers of religious importance. Lived many lives in this life - with all kinds of experience - mankind, nature, etc..., and it ain't over. Read countless books and seen countless documentaries.

But I gave up a lot (Relatively speaking) to FIND OUT if God is even real. And boy did I get some answers. Millions of Americans could do it right now (And many "Christians or otherwise")...but few actually will. Too tied to the status pyramid and material world.

Too AFRAID. But many will say "God will protect me." Well...then prove it...go out. In the end, just empty words.



posted on Apr, 13 2022 @ 03:23 PM
link   

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: dontneedaname

Faith and Jesus/religion/government are not mutually exclusive. Faith is an underlying survival tool that supports courage; courage to put one foot in front of the another, courage to commit to life.



I didn't need faith to go on my adventures to 80+ countries...traveling to places well off the beaten path. Living in unfamiliar lands.

And I certainly don't need faith for what is about to come.

I don't even need courage. I just have EXPERIENCE and KNOWLEDGE.

One doesn't need courage, when you have almost zero fear.

But to get to near zero fear, you really need to know yourSELF and emotions. You have to journey inward.



new topics

top topics



 
7
<<   2 >>

log in

join