Two Key Indicators And The Reason Why mRNA Vaccines Were A Success

Before we get into the reason why mRNA vaccines were a huge success, we must discuss a few details that counter this narrative.

There were more Covid-19 deaths in 2021 despite billions of people vaccinated.

Despite billions of people already "vaccinated", including the most vulnerable which the virus is most likely to kill, there were more deaths in 2021 than in 2020. There are many excuses, er--reasons for this, but the original Wuhan strain virus was also more deadly. Delta was of course more infectious, although less deadly, but the vulnerable in nursing homes which represent a massive percentage of the total people that died were already taken out in 2020. Which leads to our next point...


Age stratification and vulnerability tells us most vulnerable people would have been killed off in the first year when exposed because there was no "vaccine" available. And those who were left in 2021, were "protected" by the "vaccine"

In 2020, there were absolutely no effective treatments available besides the amazing remdesivir/vent combo. There were a few quack doctors talking about this horse medication called ivermectin, but the government told us they were crazy. Because of our lack of treatment options, the most vulnerable; the elderly and those with preexisting conditions died from the virus in 2020. A large number of them weren't around to inflate the numbers in 2021. And, besides, even if they were, they were "protected" by the "vaccine." Covid is "the flu" when you remove those demographics which is what we effectively did in 2021.


The reason why the mRNA vaccines were still a huge success!

Because Pfizer doubled their revenue in 2021.


There you have it. Even though the vaccine seems like a huge failure, it was actually a heaven sent miracle.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I will not take them. (Moderna & Pfizer) period.

There are plenty of other safe and effective vaccines for Covid, we just can't have them in the United States.

Wonder why that is?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I thought you were going to say, because the shots have successfully murdered countless people as per their plans.

I think Pfizer's increased revenue is just collateral benefit. Hopefully, they will crash and burn at some point, though.
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I will not take them. (Moderna & Pfizer) period.

There are plenty of other safe and effective vaccines for Covid, we just can't have them in the United States.

Wonder why that is?

Tony "Da Science" Fauci said it himself years ago: the absolute best inoculation is to getv infected and recover.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

There were more Covid-19 deaths in 2021 despite billions of people vaccinated.
. There are many excuses, er--reasons for this,

And there you just let it sit. geez The new variants are extremely more transmittable than the one with our massive lockdowns. 40% of Americas still unvacced, America is still fat and unhealthy and back mostly to normal.... Hospitals still fill up with 80%+ of the unvacced. You can't just blow off the realities to fit you agendas.

“Among the people who have had the vaccination, the deaths have gone way down,” said Dr. John Goldman, infectious disease specialist at UPMC. “What we’re seeing is hospitalizations and deaths among people who have not had the vaccination.”

Goldman said cases at UPMC in Central Pennsylvania are going up, but less than 10% of the people in those hospitals are vaccinated, with the average number of vaccinated COVID patients hovering around 10-20%.

“If we had everyone vaccinated, we would only have 20 people in our hospital, not 200,” he noted. Goldman added that among patients with more severe disease — those in ICUs or on ventilators — usually only 5-10% are vaccinated.

originally posted by: incoserv
the absolute best inoculation is to getv infected and recover.

True, well unless you die in the process then it is kind of bad...

I never got the jab and I got covid, still alive and well, soo to me covid was over blown on the healthy portion of the nation.

This was all manufactured to give pharma the biggest bailout in history by the tax payer, because let face it, that is how they go most of their profits.

This will not be the last time we will see this type of con artist using humanity for profit making.

Ate you the new sales marketing
Director for Pfizer?

Is this the new paid shill for Pfizer.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: incoserv
the absolute best inoculation is to getv infected and recover.

True, well unless you die in the process then it is kind of bad...

It's better to die from the "vaccine?"

I'll take my chances.

Well, buckle up lads and ladettes, for I present to you, Deltacron. That's right ladies and gentlemen, tables and chairs. A NEW cross of coof malarkey. A mix of Omicron and Delta. Oh what new solution in a syringe will they have to come up with now?

Just when you thought it was now safe to go back into wallmart. Dun Dun Dun dundundundundun daaaaa...

Deltacron phear the coof!!

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: incoserv
the absolute best inoculation is to getv infected and recover.

True, well unless you die in the process then it is kind of bad...

It's better to die from the "vaccine?"

I'll take my chances.

I'll take old age for 500, Alex.

This is all so ridiculous, hey... forced vaccines for the most part, for people who die WITH, not FROM a virus... But the cases of people dying directly from said vaccine, are insurmountable. People just prefer to wish it away and thank lord science for saving them... Despite them having the rarest chance of death, unless they are already on deaths door.

cest la vie.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Before we get into the reason why mRNA vaccines were a huge success, we must discuss a few details that counter this narrative.

There were more Covid-19 deaths in 2021 despite billions of people vaccinated.

Despite billions of people already "vaccinated", including the most vulnerable which the virus is most likely to kill, there were more deaths in 2021 than in 2020. There are many excuses, er--reasons for this, but the original Wuhan strain virus was also more deadly. Delta was of course more infectious, although less deadly, but the vulnerable in nursing homes which represent a massive percentage of the total people that died were already taken out in 2020. Which leads to our next point...


Age stratification and vulnerability tells us most vulnerable people would have been killed off in the first year when exposed because there was no "vaccine" available. And those who were left in 2021, were "protected" by the "vaccine"

In 2020, there were absolutely no effective treatments available besides the amazing remdesivir/vent combo. There were a few quack doctors talking about this horse medication called ivermectin, but the government told us they were crazy. Because of our lack of treatment options, the most vulnerable; the elderly and those with preexisting conditions died from the virus in 2020. A large number of them weren't around to inflate the numbers in 2021. And, besides, even if they were, they were "protected" by the "vaccine." Covid is "the flu" when you remove those demographics which is what we effectively did in 2021.


The reason why the mRNA vaccines were still a huge success!

Because Pfizer doubled their revenue in 2021.


There you have it. Even though the vaccine seems like a huge failure, it was actually a heaven sent miracle.

This has to be a joke, right? The vaccines are a disaster and the fallout will be years in the making. Oh well. I’m glad some people just trudge in unaware.

a reply to: Xtrozero

The new variants are extremely more transmittable than the one with our massive lockdowns. 40% of Americas still unvacced, America is still fat and unhealthy and back mostly to normal.... Hospitals still fill up with 80%+ of the unvacced. You can't just blow off the realities to fit you agendas

What about the less obese EU nations with well over 90% of their populations vaccinated yet still have some of the highest case numbers and death numbers of all countries. And now we have a lot of data showing that the vaccinated are becoming the majority in hospitals. If we vaccinated everyone and people were still getting sick, who would you blame then? You can't just blow off the realities to fit your agendas.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Anthony Fauci's boss retired at the end of 2021. On his way out the door, he not only sang a song while playing a guitar, he warned of 1 million Covid-19 cases @ day, unless more people get vaccinated.

Francis Collins made money and got the hell out of the NIH: www.npr.org...

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

despite billions of people vaccinated

You are forgetting that billions and millions in different countries depending where were coned, forced into getting one whatever they wanted or not.

Covid vaxs were a marketing success, did they help? if they did how there are more people now getting tested for the virus?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

There were more Covid-19 deaths in 2021 despite billions of people vaccinated.
. There are many excuses, er--reasons for this,

And there you just let it sit. geez The new variants are extremely more transmittable than the one with our massive lockdowns. 40% of Americas still unvacced, America is still fat and unhealthy and back mostly to normal.... Hospitals still fill up with 80%+ of the unvacced. You can't just blow off the realities to fit you agendas.

“Among the people who have had the vaccination, the deaths have gone way down,” said Dr. John Goldman, infectious disease specialist at UPMC. “What we’re seeing is hospitalizations and deaths among people who have not had the vaccination.”

Goldman said cases at UPMC in Central Pennsylvania are going up, but less than 10% of the people in those hospitals are vaccinated, with the average number of vaccinated COVID patients hovering around 10-20%.

“If we had everyone vaccinated, we would only have 20 people in our hospital, not 200,” he noted. Goldman added that among patients with more severe disease — those in ICUs or on ventilators — usually only 5-10% are vaccinated.

Now that the vulnerable and elderly population are either wiped out or vaccinated, that reduces 90% of the deaths. Unless you're saying the vaccine isn't stopping them.

As we just learned the vulnerable are either dead or vaccinated. So who is dying now?

maybe people should only go to the hospital when they have to.
instead of every sniffle.

the place makes money on every bed occupied.

keep that in mind. when you are laying there half naked, in the middle of a roomful of contagious people.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

There were more Covid-19 deaths in 2021 despite billions of people vaccinated.

Covid was present in more locations, and deaths were better recorded. In particular, we saw increased covid cases in India, Africa and Asia where the vax had only marginal coverage, as well as increased deaths in conservative states and small towns in the US, where vax coverage was also low, ad where actual cases had been lower in 2020.

Age stratification and vulnerability tells us most vulnerable people would have been killed off in the first year when exposed because there was no

The curve tells us that post vax the average of a victim increased to 86 and that they typically had 2 comorbidity. Demonstrating clearly that the vax was protecting. Deaths among the middle aged proportionately to the vax rates in their respective communities.

Because Pfizer doubled their revenue in 2021.

Pfizer isn't the only company that makes a covid vax, yet you seem fixated on it, what about the Chinese and Russian vaxes, or the Oxford Astrazenica vax, or the J and J vax?

a reply to: infolurker

There are plenty of other safe and effective vaccines for Covid, we just can't have them in the United States.

Actually ...

As of last year you count as being vaxxed if you've had Sinovac, Sinopharm, or Oxford-AstraZeneca, and you can buy them from registered importers (The same ones that sell you private flu shots). You can also get the JJ vax in the US as part of the state vax push.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

There were more Covid-19 deaths in 2021 despite billions of people vaccinated.
. There are many excuses, er--reasons for this,

And there you just let it sit. geez The new variants are extremely more transmittable than the one with our massive lockdowns. 40% of Americas still unvacced, America is still fat and unhealthy and back mostly to normal.... Hospitals still fill up with 80%+ of the unvacced. You can't just blow off the realities to fit you agendas.

“Among the people who have had the vaccination, the deaths have gone way down,” said Dr. John Goldman, infectious disease specialist at UPMC. “What we’re seeing is hospitalizations and deaths among people who have not had the vaccination.”

Goldman said cases at UPMC in Central Pennsylvania are going up, but less than 10% of the people in those hospitals are vaccinated, with the average number of vaccinated COVID patients hovering around 10-20%.

“If we had everyone vaccinated, we would only have 20 people in our hospital, not 200,” he noted. Goldman added that among patients with more severe disease — those in ICUs or on ventilators — usually only 5-10% are vaccinated.

Now that the vulnerable and elderly population are either wiped out or vaccinated, that reduces 90% of the deaths. Unless you're saying the vaccine isn't stopping them.

As we just learned the vulnerable are either dead or vaccinated. So who is dying now?

You previously claimed that less than 1 percent of people who caught covid died from it, so by your own account the vast majority of seniors are still alive