Boris Johnson is in Kyiv for Zelensky meeting

a reply to: gortex

I'm probably one the most vocal in voicing my dislike of Johnson and his policies.
Fair play to him over this....but I can't help wondering is it more about his own ego driven need for a photo opportunity or a genuine desire to help the Ukrainian people.
I'd like to think its the latter, but.....

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: gortex

I heard about this. I always thought the guy was a complete clown, but I actually have some respect for him now for doing it.

Reality is though, Russia wouldn’t have the balls to take him out. It would make him a martyr and just force Britain and it’s allies to crack down so hard on Russia that they’d have no hand left, except nuclear war, which they don’t want anymore than we do.

Russian deployed wmd's on British soil twice in the past decade and the UK government did nothing.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: gortex

I'm probably one the most vocal in voicing my dislike of Johnson and his policies.
Fair play to him over this....but I can't help wondering is it more about his own ego driven need for a photo opportunity or a genuine desire to help the Ukrainian people.
I'd like to think its the latter, but.....

If the UK and other so called Allies of US wanted to help the Ukrainian people maybe they would have gone to Kyiv for Zelensky meeting and push his gov to agree to a agreement there is no way Ukraine even with armored support that they would to beat Russia or retake all areas back.

You are right though that meeting looks like nothing than a photo op.

a reply to: gortex

Was this meeting Sunak missed as he had a prior car washing engagement?

Or the one the Tory Grandees set up to highlight the limited value of Zoom?

Either way, its great to see suited and booted BoJo strut his stuff. Winston would be so proud. Not.

originally posted by: Nickn3
All of the UK,EU, US, and NATO equipment moved to the Ukraine must come with technicians or instructors, a Russia attack could trigger a NATO response.

President Biden addressed some of the U.S. troops who were about to be deployed to Ukraine for providing the support you reference. The next week, there was word that a U.S. General was captured in Ukraine. 2+2 = 4.

a reply to: vNex92

If the UK and other so called Allies of US wanted to help the Ukrainian people maybe they would have gone to Kyiv for Zelensky meeting and push his gov to agree to a agreement.....

Which agreement is it that you speak of?
Unconditionally surrendering to Putin's demands?

Maybe Putin could stop all the killing by ordering an immediate ceasefire and agreeing to genuinely constructive negotiations with no pre-conditions?

....there is no way Ukraine even with armored support that they would to beat Russia or retake all areas back

I don't think anyone believes they can.
But what they can do - what they are doing - is conduct such effective defence and counter attacks that they become such a sustained drain on Russian resources that it outweighs any possible benefits Russia may have in continuing its operations in Ukraine.

I'm no military strategist by any stretch but that's my take on things.

originally posted by: Doxanoxa
a reply to: gortex

Was this meeting Sunak missed as he had a prior car washing engagement?

Or the one the Tory Grandees set up to highlight the limited value of Zoom?

Either way, its great to see suited and booted BoJo strut his stuff. Winston would be so proud. Not.

Winston sat at a table on the bank of the Rhine before the allies attempted a crossing. It was a dick move but a great pr stunt.
Johnson is nowhere near the front lines and well protected. Great for pr when you have elections coming up and once again a party mired in scandal. Bojo the hero...not.

ps, not having a dig, just saying. I despise the blubberous deceitful bumble# immensely.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

A dozen attempts on Zelensky life since the war began, and BoJo waddles in a dark blue suit.

The alternative PR is he would rather face an assassins bullet in a war zone than ban after hours drinkies in No.10 during lockdown.

So next time I hear about Kyiv coming under threat I'll think of brave Boris and wonder what the issue is.

www.newsweek.com...

originally posted by: Doxanoxa
a reply to: Soloprotocol

A dozen attempts on Zelensky life since the war began, and BoJo waddles in a dark blue suit.

The alternative PR is he would rather face an assassins bullet in a war zone than ban after hours drinkies in No.10 during lockdown.

So next time I hear about Kyiv coming under threat I'll think of brave Boris and wonder what the issue is.

www.newsweek.com...

Boris is too scared to go walkabout in Scotland. He sneaks in under the cover of darkness, Hits a Tory Donor's factory for some publicity pics then sneaks back out again. That's how much of a big bag of #e he is.

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

Poland's pretty safe I don't see what the concern is...