9-11 is Jesus' birthday. Not by coincidence did the WORLD TRADE center COLLAPSE, on 9-11

So, the modern world celebrates Jesus' birthday on December 25th. Anyone who knows anything knows that is a completely fraudulent pagan date. Anyone who still subscribes to that date really knows nothing about Christianity and is a superficial beLIEver. The majority are. Vast majority --- which I define as about 80% at least usually. Watch History Channel - Christmas Unwrapped to learn. This is when History Channel was less hollywood, and more accurate.



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So..once you realize this, you might think - what is Jesus' birthday? does it matter? There are one or two DVDs that get lots of reviews on Amazon. The Star of Bethlehem is one of them. 771 reviews. Again, the majority is wrong. I watched part of it and the guy is a clear deceiver and the whole thing is staged. The guy's voice / demeanor was quite annoying to me. I deserve 10 gold stars for even watching part of it. Anyone who falls for this deserves to be thrown in the lake of fire, and probably will be within 10 years.

So...here's the best book / research I've found.

The Star That Astonished the World



www.askelm.com...

You can read it online. Chapter 13 gives the actual date after all the analysis. Maybe it appears earlier, I didn't check. I read this a long time ago.

it's very methodical.

There is an interesting video on the top Express.uk link that I just watched for the first time -I think. Article is from 2019.

www.express.co.uk...

So if 9-11 is Jesus' birthday, and 9-11 is when the WORLD trade centers COLLAPSED. All SEVEN of them. [if you're on ATS - I assume you know about the mystery of tower 7 collapsing, let alone the main towers] SEVEN - the holy number...well, I'll let you go from here. And no, it wasn't a false flag.

Oh...the book is on Amazon and was published in...1991

a reply to: dontneedaname

Interesting. The story is in the numbers. 9 represents the microcosm apocalyptic number of importance and 11 the macrocosmic apocalyptic amount of relevance. So, Jesus, being the apocalypse master of the affair of returning to God, of our age, I would expect that to be his birthday.

911 means micro and macro uniting to become regenerated into perfection. How I know this is a long story.

Prime reading / viewing material, pun intended, can’t wait to dig in deeper.
Thank you!

a reply to: peaceinoutz

If anyone asks the right questions I'll gladly elaborate.

a reply to: dontneedaname


Well Christianity is many ways a corruption of paganism.

Any coincidence Dec, 25th, and June, 24th fall right after the solstice?

Christmas as a winter celebration really came into being under Constantine, the first really Christian emperor of Rome.. He purposely superseded Saturnalia, and set the date to supersede another day for emperors called Natalis Solis Invicti.

But Christ's actual birthday is speculative. Most scholars place it 4 to 6 years earlier than the calender would have it appear, and at all times throughout the year. A lot of scholars do put it in September though.

I have actually read a theory there is some conflation with The Nativity of Christ and the Nativity of St. John The Baptist. With the grazing flocks leading one to a possible birthday of June, 24th, 06 (Before Himself) as his more accurate date of birth.

And yet another one that says a comet in 5 BC appeared in the morning sky around April 13th. Or yet another prominent "star" that appears in the Eastern predawn sky. Some scriptural conflation there.

So you're guess is as good as mine.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

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originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: peaceinoutz

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I've never thought of 9 and 11 in this way. So I'm game, will I ask the right questions, I don't know. But I can tell you the #8 is completion. 4 is death / D; A-B-C-D. D-evil. D-emon. FOUR horsemen of the apocalypse. Say...why are there 4. That is another story. Maybe I post that later.

Let me dig out some research I did before - I call it Number DNA.

Ok...I have it. This used to be on the internet, but I took it down for various reasons...here is the 11 part.

11 - 11th hour

Chapter 11 - the whole system is bankrupt [Yeah, america just prints money to infinity now]

en.wikipedia.org... - 111 popes since the prophecy was revealed

Have you seen the FINAL POPE documentary? It's REALLY good.

September 11: significance of the number 11

answers.google.com...

Probably some websites floating around with this...but here I made it into graphical form.





Ok, so I didn't ask any questions...cuz I don't know what to ask. But i share the above. There is more...like 911 days later (if start from 0) to the MADRID bombings. Like it was all planned by a higher force.

From research I did on the subject, Jesus's birthday was probably between September 9th and September 29th. With more possibility given towards the time from the mid to end of September. There is even a slight possibility it could extend into the first week of October.

Seems that the year was wrong too somehow. But there is evidence that Jesus did exist. The evidence also shows that someone else may have taken his place at the last dinner possibly one of his deciples....remember, none of those who took Jesus away knew what he looked like, they needed someone to identify him. At the time right after he died, another person in a different location was talking about the same as Jesus was with a different name...one he had when he was training in some monastery.

Of course that goes against the Christian narrative, because Jesus had to die on the cross to make the predictions come true. From what he was saying in the bible I believe he was a messiah. He had some great abilities.

So I guess since I do not believe in all the narrative that Christianity says, I no longer am considered a Christian yet I believe in the same god and also think that yeshua was a very good and godly person and was a Messiah. Was he the son of god? I don't know, but what he did does make him a Messiah. Calling him the son of god came later. If anything his title would have been pronounced Sun-ah-Ya or Sun-Ha-Ya.

Added a NOTE to the original post.

NOTE: September 11th was first calculated in 1978. In this book by the same author - The Birth of Christ Recalculated

www.amazon.com...

summary here?
www.versebyverse.org...

general duckduckgo search
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The Star That Astonished the World second edition extended is copyright 1996. Amazon shows 1991. Amazon is erroneous I think. Either way...it was stated well before 2001. You see the correct year in my screen shot above of the webpage I made years ago.

Oh...jesus was a black man...but if "we" didn't make images or representations (Islam gets something right) we wouldn't care! And we would have never had mass slavery! - in all likelihood.

Vienna, Austria, September 11th 1683



It is a recurring date in history.

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Don’t worry my Children, I am, Coming soon. You will face Nuclear annihilation, the anger of the Father is so great, that not even Mary can stop him. This is a world war, the third one that started on 9/11, the illuminati and the false prophets that Bush had around him controlled his mind, he thought he was on a mission from God to avenge 9/11 on the Muslim world, he chose iraq, Afghanistan, the world is united in its hatred of America and North America especially, and the false teachers and false prophets he had around him whispered satans orders in his ear, if you watch the movie W. by Oliver Stone there’s a scene in it, with a false preacher putting Satans lies in his head, he declared holy war, Jihad, against the Muslims and Arabs dividing them and slaughtering them that Iraq and Syria basically do not exist, as the western nations siphon and pilfer the oil. That’s why Bush now hangs with known illuminati, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Soros, Obama and Biden, two more agents of death and destruction, since 1972 when Biden took office made an oath to God, which God said, do not do.

Let your yes be your yes and your no be your no, he started and architected roe v Wade laws to protect the murder of unborn babies, since then, over 50,000,000 human beings, American citizens have been killed before they had a chance to be born, in america alone, millions and millions more around the globe. Pure evil, a genocide, He is excommunicated scum of the highest order, he is anti cristo, a demon in the flesh, a lieutenant of Satan, who plays dumb and senile, while in private he commands and demands the highest respect, they worship him, this is a unrepentant mass murderer, and bathes in his power Satan has given him. All delusions, because he kisses the serpents tongue, and he is poisoned, he doesn’t make mistakes when he speaks, Satan wants the Ukrainians to suffer, before sending in Nato. He’s sending messages, this isn’t about land, this is about starting Armegeddon and now you have an excommunicated Catholic who has deceived the world into joining him, making people dumbfounded, confused, deceived, while the slaughter continues, and you think The Father isn’t mad, that the Sons anger is just as equal, he will allow Satan to decimate the earth, that’s how mad he is.

This is a spiritual battle against forces of evil that manifest into our reality thru the actions of men who act on what’s in their head and what the demon is saying and doing to him, demons and Satan are real. But in Satans world, which this is, this doesn’t look like the kingdom of God to me, you get locked up and put on high doses of dangerous mind bending antipsychotics, if you start talking about demons, Satan, illuminati and witchcraft.

The Pope will suffer greatly. God is here, and His Son is near, he has to come to get those idiots out of dolce and get the aliens and Satan and the rest of the morons who destroyed the world to go live like kings in the new earth Satan and the aliens promised them.

a reply to: dontneedaname

I have the impression that 9/11 represents a portion of the flood story. The flood story is depicted in the southern constellations.
The boat is Argo and the mountain it gets beached on is Mensa.
9/11 represents the part in the original flood stories when they leave the boat and make a sacrifice to the Gods, which is represented by the constellation Numušda in ancient Sumeria, or the Centaur as its known today.
The sacrifice was rewarded with a full healthy harvest. Harvest, today is called Autumn, or fall, and commences 10 days later on 9/21, the equinox.
My take on 9/11 being the birthday of Jesus is that it is the point at which the sun turns back south on its journey to the other equinox; Jesus having been crucified on the Southern Cross constellation and then resurrected.

Christ was never born......Christ and God are one......the unborn cannot die.

Christ is the visible image.......ever present......never not here.

Now (the present) is eternal..... it's what is appearing as the one life.

God is seeing.
Christ is the appearance....the apparent existence.

Can the seeing and the appearance be divided?

Christ is the visible image (the entire image that is presenting itself now.....not a separate person that lived in the past) of the invisible God.

What is appearing presently is seen but what is seeing/knowing it?

St Francis of Assisi said......
We are looking for what is looking.

It's hiding in plain sight

So what??? the two pillars holding the sky are down, big deal.
Who cares except the masons?

originally posted by: dontneedaname
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So..once you realize this, you might think - what is Jesus' birthday? does it matter? There are one or two DVDs that get lots of reviews on Amazon. The Star of Bethlehem is one of them. 771 reviews. Again, the majority is wrong. I watched part of it and the guy is a clear deceiver and the whole thing is staged. The guy's voice / demeanor was quite annoying to me. I deserve 10 gold stars for even watching part of it. Anyone who falls for this deserves to be thrown in the lake of fire, and probably will be within 10 years.

So...here's the best book / research I've found.

The Star That Astonished the World

www.askelm.com...
...

Oh, the irony. The Bible does not give a specific date for the birth of Jesus Christ. What a coincidence they would claim that it was exactly 9-11.

So you want us to come to terms with the Gregorian calendar being relevant today to something that happened...

Oh never mind

Since it's here let me toss this theory in here.

Was the 9-11 attacks the event that marked the opening of the first seal of Revelation?

On the day of 9-11 I was concerned that it was an apocalyptic event. So I went and looked for it in a old KJV bible I had. And the timing was such that I wound up having a really profound Daniel class religious experience. And oddly enough a tutorial. And I found the prediction I was looking for. So here's what I saw and how the Daniel 11-2 prophecy connects to the first horseman of Revelation.

To start with at the time I had a job doing short trip trucking jobs where I would pick up a loaded trailer at certain packing plants and deliver the loaded trailer and return home in a day. And on that day I was traveling south on I 35 when the reports of 9-11 started coming through on the radio. So I stopped at a truck stop and watched the 2nd tower fall on the TV there.

So on my way home I had a lot to brood about. And the thought that the towers and the Pentagon were an Apocalyptic event crossed my mind. You see back in the eighties I had watched a Sunday morning preacher for quite a while and his shtick was the impending Apocalypse. So when I got home from that trip I went looking for it.

And one of the places I thought to look at was Daniel 11. So I turned there and attempted to read the text and nothing. You could say I went into a fugue state. I blanked out. And then after a period of time I don't know how long I realized something was wrong and looked away and cleared my head. Turned the bible to a different page and that read fine with no problems. Then I looked back. And on that page on that day I saw STATIC. Snow on the page like an old tv on a empty channel. But then I realized there was text under the snow. But it wasn't English. And I could see it was being rewritten over and over. Like the text was being worked on, being rejected, and being worked over again. And then someone or something noticed my presence.

Suddenly it was like a bright flashing light was in my eyes and there was a grinding crunching noise. And then the book SCREAMED at me... So I put the book down and backed away.

The next day remembering what happened I opened the book and took another look at Daniel 11. And it was readable normal prose in English. And this is what I saw.

Daniel 11-2
And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.

And that's a perfect 500 BC description of 9-11. I had found the bible prophecy on the 9-11 attacks. So how else could have Daniel described the 9-11 attacks on Washington DC? And make it also describe events in the middle east thousands of years earlier?

Now let me give you a little excerpt from the 2nd vision. The tutorial.

Once I triggered it. It was as if I had been pulled out of my body and propelled upwards like I was on a rocket. There were stars and flashes of light and oddly enough numbers. The number 2 specifically. And then the action stopped. And I was just floating in space. Looking at the show. But this was very odd space with some very odd stars. For the stars were actually little white #2s. And faintly against the background of space was the text of Daniel 11. With the stars scattered through out it. Showing the points of duality in the prophecy.

So now how does all this apply to the first horseman?

Well several months later in 2002 I was thinking about that very subject and trying to fit the pieces together. Then I realized a detail. In Revelation the first horseman is described with a bow. Not bow and arrows which would be normal for a bowman going to war. So my thought became "Where are his arrows". And I looked and mentally found them in a story in 2nd Kings 13. According to the story there was 4 arrows. 3 being victories in this kings war in Syria.

So then I looked at the victories of the king of the south in Daniel 11 and realized I found him. The king of the south in Daniel 11 is the first horseman. With Daniel 11-2 and 9-11 being his first victory. This king having 3 victories in his war against the north. And the 4 being a pyrrhic victory. He defeats the first invasion but loses many men and much material fighting it off.

And that makes 9-11 the event that marks the opening of the first seal of Revelation. And explains a lot about the numerology of 9-11. 4 planes, 3 victories, and one going down in a field in Pennsylvania.

He was born in April.

a reply to: dontneedaname

All numbers mean different things according to the perspective of the context. 8 does mean what you say in that context you refer to, but it also means other things in other contexts.

The context I speak of has to do with the fundamental matrix of the human consciousness that in a religious context is called the Fall of Man.

In this sense, the numbers are shockingly accurate therefore I have to consider that act on 911 in 2001, is more or less the true 2012 date.

originally posted by: headcheck
Prime reading / viewing material, pun intended, can’t wait to dig in deeper.
Thank you!

9 isn't a prime number, though.