Far Right are Patriots Says Media, MSM Proving Russia's Point

a reply to: Cutepants

It sure appears we are anti nazi...are you? The term nationalist when used to describe these guys isn't really being used by the definition of the term...its a softer euphemism so people don't question why the west is literally arming neo nazis.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Im sure the poster will respond with a well thought and articulated point to back up their coherent notions.

originally posted by: imitator

originally posted by: vNex92

At least this one news media outlet admits one thing that most Ukrainians today are nationalists while citing Bandera, a nationalist figure who collaborated with the Nazis.

When someone says, they are "nationalists" that's a code word for Neo-Nazi. It's always been that way... or at least it has for movies that involve white people lol.

I think theres a huge distinction that needs to be involved with that

Putin and his supporters are considered Nationalists as well, but I wouldnt group them in with Neo Nazis

na·tion·al·ism
/ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm/
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noun
identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

We need to do much better in our culture to STOP trying to redefine words and pigeon hole people into areas just to satisfy our own bias

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Im sure the poster will respond with a well thought and articulated point to back up their coherent notions.

Oh of course sir!

Ive been really trying hard not to be too abrasive this last 6 months but lol oof so much has gone on lol

a reply to: vNex92

Back a decade or so, Russia was enemy nation number 1, and the US had 'red scares', spies, assassinations, and were living in fear of nuclear war with them, and people who supported anything Russian were (perhaps rightly) called traitors or mobsters.

Roll it forward to the post-Trump world, and Americans are supporting Russia and yet also denigrating their own government.

The laugh is that they call themselves patriots.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: vNex92

Russians can be tagged anything, but nazis they are not, the truth is backed by history, no matter how the liberal soros owned real nazis tells the public.

Soros was 9 when WW2 broke out, and 14 at the end of WW2.

Just sayin'.

a reply to: RickyD

Nationalist is what Russian propaganda calls them, it's what the Soviets used to call them for not submitting to their so-called dictatorship of the proletariat. I've never seen MSM call them nationalists.

I'm not anti Ukrainian nationalist and I'm not anti proud boy for example just because someone thinks they're nazis. Why don't you go protest a statue or something with your antifa buddies?

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: vNex92

Back a decade or so, Russia was enemy nation number 1, and the US had 'red scares', spies, assassinations, and were living in fear of nuclear war with them, and people who supported anything Russian were (perhaps rightly) called traitors or mobsters.

Roll it forward to the post-Trump world, and Americans are supporting Russia and yet also denigrating their own government.

The laugh is that they call themselves patriots.

Back 10 years ago, we (US) were invovled in proxy wars with russia, still are to an extent.

I keep seeing these posts that Russia is being supported by Americans but never see any source to back that absurd notion. Understanding that Ukraine is a political cesspool and has actual true blue nazis within their ranks doesnt default to supporting russia no matter how bad you wish it to be.

Lastly, holding your govt to account and be culpable is the definition of patriotism. Thats why the constitution and bill of rights exist.

So dear Modorite, what is laughable is the myopic view you must cling too, however falsly, to make your ideology make sense.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

The downward spiral into idiocracy is increasing for sure.

Seems to be striking a war nerve with some.

a reply to: chr0naut

Yep like the 3 million dollars that Hunter biden got from Yelena Baturina, Russian money is a good as any money when it comes to corruption of Politicians like Biden and Son.

a reply to: marg6043

Hunter Biden got a lot more than that. The companies his name was on laundered nearly a billion dollars. That is just what they can track.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Putin and his supporters are considered Nationalists as well, but I wouldnt group them in with Neo Nazis

The media had called Trump and his supporters far right and Nationalists to.

a reply to: Cutepants

No quite clearly they are using that euphemism in the western msm. Where just 5 or 6 years ago every msm was calling all these same people and groups neo nazis. The only thing which changed was who it benefited the west to support for their own envds...and all of a sudden neo nazis are nationalist oer night!

I am going to point out from the second article i had posted in the thread.
There are a number of users in the comment section there that are upset over how the article is calling the far right in Ukraine "Moderates"

Which is interesting to see.

a reply to: vNex92

Russia just seems anti normal citizen period.

War Crimes Watch: Russia’s onslaught on Ukrainian Hospitals

apnews.com...

Still, Russian officials have denied hitting civilian targets, deriding the mounting documentation of atrocities as “Fake News” and claiming without evidence that dead and wounded civilians photographed were “crisis actors.”

Speaking at talks in Turkey about a potential cease-fire, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov dismissed concerns about civilian casualties as “pathetic shrieks” from Russia’s enemies and denied Ukraine has even been invaded.

If you missed it… “ Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov dismissed concerns about civilian casualties as “pathetic shrieks” from Russia’s enemies and denied Ukraine has even been invaded.”

a reply to: RickyD

OK, well do you have examples of that? I googled "azov nationalist" and it turns up articles calling them ultra-nationalists and nationalists with neo nazi roots.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

I think theres a huge distinction that needs to be involved with that

Putin and his supporters are considered Nationalists as well, but I wouldnt group them in with Neo Nazis

It's already defined by your favorite website SPLC... www.splcenter.org...

White nationalist groups espouse white supremacist or white separatist ideologies, often focusing on the alleged inferiority of nonwhites. Groups listed in a variety of other categories—Ku Klux Klan, neo-Confederate, neo-Nazi, racist skinhead and Christian Identity—could also be fairly described as white nationalist.

a reply to: RickyD

How’s all of Russia’s investigations going on Nazi war crimes. I guess nothing to document? I guess too busy destroying Ukrainian cities…. And killing civilians.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Putin and his supporters are considered Nationalists as well, but I wouldnt group them in with Neo Nazis

The media had called Trump and his supporters far right and Nationalists to.

Do you believe msm that Trump and all his supporters are nazis?

Then why do you believe the same people about Ukrainian nazis?

Pretty dumb to believe well known serial liars about anything.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Then why do you believe the same people about Ukrainian nazis?

You keep ignoring the articles i had posted and what others had said here..


Did you know that in Kiev they changed one of the streets name to Bandera?

well known serial liars about anything

Like the media had been doing so on Ukraine and Syria about the rebels?