Herd immunity through vaccination is not possible.

Like we didn't knew that from the beginning, but hey what do we know.

www.ninefornews.nl...

doorbraak.be...

Furthermore, Dogné, head of the pharmacy department at the University of Namur in Belgium, revealed that the EMA had early data that the vaccines were not 100 percent efficient. “As early as March 2021, scientific papers were published telling us that herd immunity through vaccination was not possible,” he said. When asked why we didn't emphasize that at the start of the vaccination campaign, Dogné replied: "Because we couldn't demand '100 percent vaccination', because that implies that children under five had to be vaccinated. We had to vaccinate as many people as possible.”

People should be hanged for this treason.

a reply to: Sander1976

Herd immunity only requires about 85%. This was always was planned to be through a combination of vaccination and natural immunity.

2 Years ago it was almost unthinkable that you could get 85% of a population vaxxed, so it wasn't even on the table, let alone a requirement. Nobody seriously thought that it could be done in such a short space of time.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

2 Years ago it was almost unthinkable that you could get 85% of a population vaxxed, so it wasn't even on the table, let alone a requirement. Nobody seriously thought that it could be done in such a short space of time.

Amazing what a bit of economic and social blackmail will do....

a reply to: AaarghZombies

These so called vaccines don’t even give any immunity, tell me what other vaccines required boosters? The whole things a joke.

That's not what they told us in the Netherlands. Their goal from the beginning was acquiring herd immunity through vaccination. They told us natural herd immunity wasn't possible, we really needed the vaccines to be safe for other people.

In fact they suggested natural immunity didn't exist and vaccination was the only road ahead.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

a reply to: surfer_soul

You're obviously not a parent otherwise you'd know that booster shots are pretty normal. Tetanus, meningitis B, Haemophilus influenzae B, and the MMR all require boosters.

a reply to: Sander1976

The media might have misunderstood what the government meant. Or just overly simplified the message.

Can you provide a link to a native language source from the government, not a translation. I want to know the wording as originally written?

a reply to: Flatcoat

It was more logistics and cost.

2 years ago I would have called you an idiot if you'd said enough political parties could agree on what to do for long enough to bring in a program like this.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Sander1976

The media might have misunderstood what the government meant. Or just overly simplified the message.

Can you provide a link to a native language source from the government, not a translation. I want to know the wording as originally written?

Is wasn't the media who told us this, it was our government and their so called scientist.

Search for 'persconferentie corona' you get all the info from the dutch government. Link www.youtube.com...

Everything the dutch government told us is in the videos.

edit: www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Sander1976

Herd immunity only requires about 85%. This was always was planned to be through a combination of vaccination and natural immunity.

Some nations have well over 90% of the population vaccinated, yet they haven't attained herd immunity because the vaccine wont stop the spread of Covid. The entire reason people were threatened with losing their livelihood was to vaccinate as many people as possible in order to attain herd immunity... that was yet another failed promise based in faulty science, just one more lie we were told amongst a towering pile of lies and bogus science. And now that we all seem to agree the vaccine will not create herd immunity, there's no excuse to force it onto people. The control freaks really are having such a hard time letting people make their own decisions now that their narrative is collapsing.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Look who it is again, bombastically defending the vax even though the narrative surrounding it is falling apart. For someone who supposedly knows so much how can you keep defending the narrative?

Please, do tell how a shot that doesn’t stop transmission nor infection is ever supposed to help us reach herd immunity?

a reply to: Sander1976

Hanging might work, but it's never been tried.

Pfizer has pleaded guilty to criminal medical fraud at least twice, and the fines did not stop Pfizer leadership from committing fraud again with the clot shots. Pfizer has effectively been operating a continuing criminal enterprise for decades.

Hanging might work!

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Sander1976

Herd immunity only requires about 85%. This was always was planned to be through a combination of vaccination and natural immunity.

2 Years ago it was almost unthinkable that you could get 85% of a population vaxxed, so it wasn't even on the table, let alone a requirement. Nobody seriously thought that it could be done in such a short space of time.

Yea, but when you force the people by threatening their jobs, you can do amazing things. I bet that part is your fav.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: surfer_soul

You're obviously not a parent otherwise you'd know that booster shots are pretty normal. Tetanus, meningitis B, Haemophilus influenzae B, and the MMR all require boosters.

How many require three in a year… thanks for playing your straw man game yet again… 🤨

Omicron already has ended the covid pandemic, but big pharma will not tell you, they are still trying to jab you with their 4 useless boosters.

Up to 95% of the population in the US have immunity and is not because the jab, is because exposure and infection, nothing beats the natural immunity.

Covid jabs were an experiment and it failed, yep it did, the word of the failure will not be talked about until years from now.

I am sure that pharma is working now for a virus that will kill the human body immune system, oops they already did.

LOL, awesome.
I get mt tetanus shots every 10 years and my hep,
after one year you get a booster that lasts for twenty years.
I have contacted neither and I often spend time in very dirty
and disease infested locations.
If I took three vaccines in one year for tetanus and still contacted it
there would be some explaining to do.
And yet we are to accept that this is the way it is now?
Retarded, covid vax is no vax at the very least.


a reply to: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: surfer_soul

You're obviously not a parent otherwise you'd know that booster shots are pretty normal. Tetanus, meningitis B, Haemophilus influenzae B, and the MMR all require boosters.

None of those vaccines require continual boosters within a couple of months of being fully vaccinated. If they were only good for a couple of months at best, there wouldn't be much point in getting them- and they wouldn't fit the definition of 'vaccine'.

You honestly sound like an executive at Pfizer, or a government official of some sort. I can't imagine why else you'd be so adamantly opposed to any and all information that doesn't portray your beloved vaccine in heavenly glory.

a reply to: Sander1976

Herd immunity was never going to be possible with a corona virus, IMHO.
This is not a virus like measles, mumps or chicken pox.
It is a virus similar to a flu or common cold, constantly changing.



YMMV

originally posted by: andr3w68
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Look who it is again, bombastically defending the vax even though the narrative surrounding it is falling apart. For someone who supposedly knows so much how can you keep defending the narrative?

Please, do tell how a shot that doesn’t stop transmission nor infection is ever supposed to help us reach herd immunity?

Look at who is at it again, making these bold statements and not including even a bitchute video to back them up.

The fact that half of Europe has dropped the majority of covid based restrictions shows that the "narrative" is alive and has the science to prove it.

a reply to: nugget1

Covid doesn't require constant boosters within months of being vaccinated either. It requires two shots in total to reach the same level of immunity as the above, anything after than is part of a zero covid strategy. We don't need zero strategies for any of the other virus as the level of community transmission is already so low that it's next to zero.

Two shots of the chickenpox vax give you about 85 percent immunity, which is around the same as the covid vax. Immunity drops off with age as well, which is why adults can get shingles. Chickenpox boosters are available and where I live are given out to vulnerable adults. The same is true for Tetanus, and a couple of other things.