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No, stick around. Stay in the spotlight until every lie, every inhumane experiment, and every time you sold yourself for money is exposed.
originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: chr0naut
There are plenty of articles, journals, tables, graphs, signatures and all sorts of evidence proving GOF and it’s funding by NIH.
One
Experiments that create the possibility of initiating a pandemic should be subject to a rigorous quantitative risk assessment and a search for safer alternatives before they are approved or performed. Yet a rigorous and transparent risk assessment process for this work has not yet been established. This is why we support the recently announced moratorium on funding new “gain-of-function” (GOF) experiments that enhance mammalian transmissibility or virulence in severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), and influenza viruses.
Here’s an article from 2012
Describing Fauci’s support and wanted governmental use of GOF, specifically with influenza and respiratory viruses.
So what are the “ multiple unfounded” things you described?
Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases contributes his voice as a representative of an organization that is a key funder of influenza research. Although Fauci acknowledges that the benefits of gain-of-function research outweigh the risks, he argues that scientists have yet to fully meet their responsibility for engaging the public in weighing these matters and making the case for proceeding. He outlines how the U.S. government plans to augment policy guidelines related to "dual use research of concern" like the experiments on enhanced influenza transmission.
originally posted by: ColeYounger
originally posted by: Oppositeoftruth
a reply to: ColeYounger
Did the dog happen to be a begal? And was its voice box removed so it couldn't scream out in pain while sandflies ate its head? Just curious... Asking for a friend. But yeah Dr. Fauci he sure loves dogs..
Yea...The first thing I thought of was that those idiots who adore him obviously don't know of his brutal animal experiments.
You could show them the proof, and they'd probably still refuse to accept it.
originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: chr0naut
Please see my above…. Easily searchable…. Search between 2008-2014 plenty of finds…
IF you “want” to LEARN.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Bringittothelight
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ColeYounger
Fauci was referred to the justice department for criminal investigation after he purposely lied to Congress last july.
Since then, Biden's justice department has ignored investigating Fauci, to indict people like Steve bannon, for not showing up after Congress asked him to.
But did he lie, or was it just an allegation, based upon belief in a conspiracy theory?
Yes he lied . He said he didn’t give any money to the wuhan lab
No, he didn't say that. The grants that he approved went to pay for work at numerous labs. It would be more expensive researching emerging viral threats appearing in bats in China (an assumed potential source), in another country's lab. This was not under any sort of doubt.
. That was a lie . He said they weren’t doing gain of function testing there . That was a lie
Yet there has been no evidence found of GOF testing. Nearly everyone who says they have evidence of GOF talks ONLY about the money trail, not about the equipment and resources required, and/or academic papers or lab notes outlining the results of such testing. Several teams of international investigators have gone to the lab to look for such hard evidence and no-one has brought any of it forward, or even said it was found.
. You know that and you are here to lie to us all and obfuscate the truth . That is against tnc . Your disinformation campaign may Be effective against some main stream folk but not here .
So, now you accuse me. On what basis? Where is YOUR evidence?
I guess you missed darpa turning the pandemic starters down
DARPA are a military research organization. The proposal for the research that DARPA turned down were proposed for military purposes, and something quite different than what was being done by EcoHealth Alliance in their non-military research being done on foreign soil.
It appears that Fauci hasn’t figured out Biden is done with him and wants him to disappear. The NIH head hasn’t taken part in an interview with the mainstream media for almost 3 weeks and has been only allowed to do interviews for streaming far-left websites.
After being thrown in our faces for almost three years Fauci, Osterholm, Van Gupta, and Gottlieb have all but disappeared. By the time the midterms get here Democrats do not want you to remember what they did during COVID. However, they have a new self-inflicted problem, gas prices and they aren’t going down anytime soon.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: chr0naut
Please see my above…. Easily searchable…. Search between 2008-2014 plenty of finds…
IF you “want” to LEARN.
But how did the do GOF back then?
In contrast to the 2002-2003 SARS-CoV outbreak, which had a higher pathogenicity and lead to higher mortality rates, SARSCoV-2 infection appears to be much more contagious. Moreover, many SARS-CoV-2 infected patients are reported to develop low-titer neutralizing antibody and usually suffer prolonged illness, suggesting a more effective SARS-CoV-2 immune surveillance evasion than SARS-CoV.
originally posted by: Bringittothelight
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Bringittothelight
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ColeYounger
Fauci was referred to the justice department for criminal investigation after he purposely lied to Congress last july.
Since then, Biden's justice department has ignored investigating Fauci, to indict people like Steve bannon, for not showing up after Congress asked him to.
But did he lie, or was it just an allegation, based upon belief in a conspiracy theory?
Yes he lied . He said he didn’t give any money to the wuhan lab
No, he didn't say that. The grants that he approved went to pay for work at numerous labs. It would be more expensive researching emerging viral threats appearing in bats in China (an assumed potential source), in another country's lab. This was not under any sort of doubt.
. That was a lie . He said they weren’t doing gain of function testing there . That was a lie
Yet there has been no evidence found of GOF testing. Nearly everyone who says they have evidence of GOF talks ONLY about the money trail, not about the equipment and resources required, and/or academic papers or lab notes outlining the results of such testing. Several teams of international investigators have gone to the lab to look for such hard evidence and no-one has brought any of it forward, or even said it was found.
. You know that and you are here to lie to us all and obfuscate the truth . That is against tnc . Your disinformation campaign may Be effective against some main stream folk but not here .
So, now you accuse me. On what basis? Where is YOUR evidence?
I guess you missed darpa turning the pandemic starters down
DARPA are a military research organization. The proposal for the research that DARPA turned down were proposed for military purposes, and something quite different than what was being done by EcoHealth Alliance in their non-military research being done on foreign soil.
Yes he did say that . On tv under oath . My evidence is straight out of the horses mouth . It’s in cspan . I’m not accusing you of anything . You are running a disinformation campaign . Obviously why you will never change your mind about anything . It is against tnc to keep repeating your lies when the truth is plain to see . You are obviously a liar liar with an agenda . Have a good day
originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: chr0naut
Please see my above…. Easily searchable…. Search between 2008-2014 plenty of finds…
IF you “want” to LEARN.
But how did the do GOF back then?
I have precious little time to bandy words with people that shill for the pharmacological industry, but let's set aside the fact (which you are undoubtedly aware of) that the GoF research applied to the baseline SARS-CoV was effective. The SARS-CoV-2 virus had an enhanced level of contagiousness and caused much more damage compared to SARS-CoV:
In contrast to the 2002-2003 SARS-CoV outbreak, which had a higher pathogenicity and lead to higher mortality rates, SARSCoV-2 infection appears to be much more contagious. Moreover, many SARS-CoV-2 infected patients are reported to develop low-titer neutralizing antibody and usually suffer prolonged illness, suggesting a more effective SARS-CoV-2 immune surveillance evasion than SARS-CoV.
Let's use an analogy of say, performing research to construct a thermonuclear weapon in a setting (for instance Iran) where such research is forbidden.
Do authorities need to wait until after a weapon is successfully built to apply sanctions and intercede?
Or is it the case that even preliminary, unsuccessful/fruitless efforts towards a banned subject of research can be and are considered illegal?
If you break in to a car with the intent to steal it, but fail to get the engine to turn over, is it your contention that you can't be charged with auto theft?
That's sort of the rationale I'm hearing.
Even though the parties involved (Fauci and Barrick) were told to stop doing GoF back in 2014, which directive they ignored and worked around by simply sub-contracting/shifting research to China, because the researchers didn't succeed at GoF until say 2018-2019 (until after the prohibition on GoF was lifted), then that makes their flagrant disregard of N.I.H. policy between 2014-2017 "OK".
I think Fauci is skating by right now due to the current political winds blowing in his favor. There will come a time in the next 1 or 2 or 5 or 10 years that this will change. Fauci may not even be alive once these changes occur. But rest assured, the facts will be known, eventually.
originally posted by: Bringittothelight
a reply to: chr0naut
Fauci gave millions to the wuhan lab . Dr Baric and dr zengele did gain of function testing there . The media told us it wasn’t manmade . They media are evil liars . What’s your angle here ? There’s a mountain of evidence
originally posted by: Oppositeoftruth
a reply to: ColeYounger
Did the dog happen to be a begal? And was its voice box removed so it couldn't scream out in pain while sandflies ate its head? Just curious... Asking for a friend. But yeah Dr. Fauci he sure loves dogs..
originally posted by: Bringittothelight
a reply to: chr0naut
Fauci gave millions to the wuhan lab . Dr Baric and dr zengele did gain of function testing there . The media told us it wasn’t manmade . They media are evil liars . What’s your angle here ? There’s a mountain of evidence