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I have no F'n clue what is going on over there, but I admit it
originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: MykeNukem
I have no F'n clue what is going on over there, but I admit it
I don't either so read my thread again.
1. A civilian in their car was run over by a military vehicle.
2. Numerous videos taken by Ukrainians say its a Russian "Tank"
The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine’s armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
How perfect is it for Ukraine militants, Neo Nazis or Russians to drive either acquired or captured Ukraine military vehicles so as to make it look like Ukraine troops loyal to their president Zelenski
I put it out for all to say what they feel. Seems like NO ONE here has a problem writing that Zelinski is killing his own people without facts?
originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: MykeNukem
I have no F'n clue what is going on over there, but I admit it
I don't either so read my thread again.
1. A civilian in their car was run over by a military vehicle.
2. Numerous videos taken by Ukrainians say its a Russian "Tank"
The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine’s armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
How perfect is it for Ukraine militants, Neo Nazis or Russians to drive either acquired or captured Ukraine military vehicles so as to make it look like Ukraine troops loyal to their president Zelenski
I put it out for all to say what they feel. Seems like NO ONE here has a problem writing that Zelinski is killing his own people without facts?
originally posted by: putnam6
Been proved it was an accident from Ukrainian defense forces that lost control on the wet roadway and rolled over a Ukrainian civilian. No Russians were involved.
Stark reminder this was being flashed around about a week ago, ATS is usually better than that. I only know because it was pointed out earlier here on ATS after I posted about this same incident.
below is a decent place to check and see if something did indeed occur as stated, we should perhaps start trying to verify if our posts are actually correct here on ATS. Plenty of places with misinformation, the Ukraine subreddit is usually a decent source too when trying to find ou the veracity of some videos and claims
liveuamap.com...
www.reddit.com...
FWIW it indeed looks like the Russians are pounding anything east of a line from Vinnytsia-Zhytomyr, except they did have one attack on an airfield west of that line, everything else is to the east.
Which is exactly what our Russian ATSer pointed out yesterday.
originally posted by: Waterglass
First if all I wish to thank those of you who are sympathetic to the Russian cause. Now we can all see who you are. I also know that many of you are playing The New World Order card and that Ukraine is connected to it at the hip.
The older male driver appeared to be, understandably, shaken but otherwise not seriously injured. It wasn’t immediately clear if the armored vehicle was Russian or Ukrainian hardware, or when this crash took place.
The only side I'm sympathetic to and praying for, are the innocent Ukrainian civilians caught in the middle.
originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
originally posted by: putnam6
Been proved it was an accident from Ukrainian defense forces that lost control on the wet roadway and rolled over a Ukrainian civilian. No Russians were involved.
Stark reminder this was being flashed around about a week ago, ATS is usually better than that. I only know because it was pointed out earlier here on ATS after I posted about this same incident.
below is a decent place to check and see if something did indeed occur as stated, we should perhaps start trying to verify if our posts are actually correct here on ATS. Plenty of places with misinformation, the Ukraine subreddit is usually a decent source too when trying to find ou the veracity of some videos and claims
liveuamap.com...
www.reddit.com...
FWIW it indeed looks like the Russians are pounding anything east of a line from Vinnytsia-Zhytomyr, except they did have one attack on an airfield west of that line, everything else is to the east.
Which is exactly what our Russian ATSer pointed out yesterday.
Russian tank attack story debunked.
Interesting on how a "news" story like this is slow to be clarified and accurately described by the MSM. I can just see the editors in the U.S. cable news and printed rags "WHOA! That looks sensational and provocative! Let's get that in a story! .... oh wait...The Ukrainian military did it?? OK, never mind, just forget it"
I still see 2 or 3 "news" sites have ran with the "Russian tank attacks civilian" story, and again, the bigger networks, rather than report on the actual facts and clarify the truth, they avoid the story altogether. Why put in effort to dispel your own propaganda agenda?
It's much easier to help the cause celebre (Russians 'R BAD, M'KAY??) if the incident is neatly packaged inside the current Narrative. This is why more "news" outlets are just leaving it out there and not working to set the record straight.
You did notice that I placed a question mark in the title as I left it to the brilliance of others to discern information as presented.