Ukranian child soldiers or more propaganda?

a reply to: crayzeed

Fine my iPhone will tell you where.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Ukraine began military training of 12 and up in 2014 as a result of russian invasion.

Indeed , i remember this as well but I really wanted some more context to what was going on, and i very much appreciate the responses on this

Im of the mind that if we did more of this sort of thing with kids (except the neo nazi stuff) our country would be a lot better off than we are, with tons of weak minded weak willed teens and young adults running the country soon

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

You really ought to read more and post less, because your ignorance is starting to make you look foolish...

Here's a link to a fully referenced research study from "The Institute for European, Russian, and Eurasian Studies" out of "The George Washington University":

Azov (Neo-Nazi's) in Ukraine's Major Military Training Hub

This is a very informative report about the extreme far-right "Centuria" military group and it's links to the Neo-nazi "Azov Movement"...

It's quite a lot of reading - I'll get you started with a brief quote from part of the summary:

The group, led by individuals with ties to Ukraine’s internationally active far-right Azov movement, has attracted multiple members, including current and former officer cadets of the NAA now serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Apparent members have appeared in photos giving Nazi salutes and made seemingly extremist statements online.
The group has been able to proselytize Ukraine’s future military elite inside the NAA. Apparent members have also gained access to Western military education and training Institutions. One apparent member of the group, then NAA cadet Kyrylo Dubrovskyi, attended an 11-month Officer Training Course at the United Kingdom’s Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, graduating in late 2020. During that time, Dubrovskyi apparently maintained ties to the group. Another apparent member and then NAA cadet, Vladyslav Vintergoller, attended the 30th International Week held by the German Army Officers’ Academy (Die Offizierschule des Heeres, OSH) in Dresden, Germany, in April 2019. Meanwhile, inside Ukraine, members of the group have apparently had access to American military trainers, as well as American and French cadets. As recently as April 2021, the group claimed that since its launch, members have participated in joint military exercises with France, the UK, Canada, the US, Germany, and Poland.

The group has strong ties to Ukraine’s far-right Azov movement, has promoted Azov to NAA cadets, and credibly claimed that its members lectured in the Azov Regiment of the National Guard, the military wing of the Azov movement. The image of strong ties between the former and Centuria’ is further reinforced by the fact that an Azov-linked magazine contemporaneously reported the group’s presence within the NAA in 2018; by supportive statements from Azov figures; by photos of the group’s apparent leaders and members with Azov leaders; and by Centuria’s participation in a political rally with the Azov movement. Online, Centuria has been endorsed by leading figures of the Azov movement, and apparent leaders and members of the group have appeared in photos with Azov’s leader, Andriy Biletsky, and key spokesman for the movement Yuriy Mykhalchyshyn. The National Corps party, the political wing of the Azov movement, and the Azov Regiment did not return the author’s requests to comment.

I think if you 'do the homework' (and you're honest), you'll agree that there's a whole lot more than 600 Neo-nazi's in the Ukraine to worry about...

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Military Training for Young Children at Ukraine’s “Neo-Nazi Summer Camp”. Recruitment of Ukraine’s “Child Soldiers” Financed by US “Nonlethal” Military Aid?

The pictures are taken from this site above however its linked back to Globalresearch.ca

According the the site mediabias

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Overall, we rate GlobalResearch a Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy and Strong Pseudoscience website based on the promotion of unproven information such as the dangers of Vaccines and 9-11 as a false flag operation.

a reply to: lostgirl


Again with the russian nazi propaganda?

Why do those 600 people frighten you so much?



We were discussing what the Ukrainian military did to prepare for the next russian invasion, not 600 goofballs that like to play nazi dress up.

a reply to: Xcathdra


Case close.

Even the extreme left of the most extremely left fact checkers agree.

Russian propaganda BS.

a reply to: lostgirl


"I think if you 'do the homework' (and you're honest), you'll agree that there's a whole lot more than 600 Neo-nazi's in the Ukraine to worry about"



You count the secret U.S. bio weapon labs in Ukraine and I'll count the nazi goofballs.

Then please ask vlad to immediately remove all russians from all Ukraine.

Young Nazis in training. Top left is the flag of the Azov brigade, the neo-nazi movement, that is part of Ukraines National guard.

originally posted by: putnam6
I have no doubt Ukraine has militia just like that, hell we probably have some here in America

it doesn't mean they should be invaded.

Besides a failed invasion will create a more fervent Ukrainian militia base.

It's not the reason why they were invaded. Ukraine has been killing innocent Russian civilians in Donbass/Donetsk for the past 8 years. Ukrainian airforce has bombed Russian neighborhoods in Donbass numerous times since 2014. Ukrainian army has killed 14,000 innocent Russian civilians in Donbass since 2014. Many of them were tortured and beheaded.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel
Young Nazis in training. Top left is the flag of the Azov brigade, the neo-nazi movement, that is part of Ukraines National guard.

and are composed of "nazis" from the 2 "republics" Russia recognized. It has 500-600 members. While it answers to Ukrainian national guard it does not rep[resent all Ukrainians (or Russians but Russias latest actions puts them up near Azov). Chechnya is now in Ukraine so I suspect war crimes by them will put Azov to shame.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: putnam6
I have no doubt Ukraine has militia just like that, hell we probably have some here in America

it doesn't mean they should be invaded.

Besides a failed invasion will create a more fervent Ukrainian militia base.

It's not the reason why they were invaded. Ukraine has been killing innocent Russian civilians in Donbass/Donetsk for the past 8 years. Ukrainian airforce has bombed Russian neighborhoods in Donbass numerous times since 2014. Ukrainian army has killed 14,000 innocent Russian civilians in Donbass since 2014. Many of them were tortured and beheaded.

Ukraine has been killing russian invaders and ukrainian traitors on land they were trying to steal from Ukraine.

Maybe they should have killed ALL of them?

You know, to discourage additional invasions?



Or better yet, all russians should immediately leave all ukraine and russia should stop invading it's neighbors.

originally posted by: dollukka
Here is the whole story about this

LINK

It say

Formally part of the Ukrainian National Guard, Azov is a de-facto private army which was originally financed by oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Its current sources of funding are unknown, and the battalion says it relies on private donations.

So doubt they are in government program... just something else

Pics are not recent at least 5 years old

Azov brigade is in a government program, they are part of the Ukrainian national guard. There is also the "Azov movement", while not officially part of the Ukrainian national guard or army, they will fight along side Ukrainian government forces. There are also members of the Azov movement that arenin parts of the Ukrainian army & government, but they dont openly flaunt it like the Azov Brigade that is part of the Ukrainian national guard and they along with the Ukrainian army, have been killing ethnic Russian Ukrainians in Donbass for 8 years. They have been known to torture and behead ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: dollukka
Here is the whole story about this

LINK

It say

Formally part of the Ukrainian National Guard, Azov is a de-facto private army which was originally financed by oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Its current sources of funding are unknown, and the battalion says it relies on private donations.

So doubt they are in government program... just something else

Pics are not recent at least 5 years old

Azov is in a government program, they are part of the Ukrainian national guard and they, along with the Ukrainian army, have been killing ethnic Russian Ukrainians in Donbass for 8 years. They have been known to torture and behead ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine.

They have been killing russian invaders and ukrainian traitors that were trying to steal part of Ukraine.

It appears they didn't kill enough of them to discourage another russian invasion.

Did they?



Now please send McPutin an email message.

Let him know that The Citizens Of Planet Earth are demanding that russia immediately remove all russians from all Ukraine.

Make sure you say 'demand'.

He doesn't seem to understand yet.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: dollukka
Here is the whole story about this

LINK

It say

Formally part of the Ukrainian National Guard, Azov is a de-facto private army which was originally financed by oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Its current sources of funding are unknown, and the battalion says it relies on private donations.

So doubt they are in government program... just something else

Pics are not recent at least 5 years old

Azov is in a government program, they are part of the Ukrainian national guard and they, along with the Ukrainian army, have been killing ethnic Russian Ukrainians in Donbass for 8 years. They have been known to torture and behead ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine.

They have been killing russian invaders and ukrainian traitors that were trying to steal part of Ukraine.

It appears they didn't kill enough of them to discourage another russian invasion.

Did it?

You do you obviously don't know what you are talking, you do you.

The people of Donbass didn't go to Kiev to start fighting, the Ukrainian army came to them. They wanted to form their own republic, which they have because Ukrainian government was making it illegal to speak Russian and practice many Russian traditions and ways of life. Ukraine was trying to cancel Russian way of life in Donbass and all over Eastern Ukraine. Ukraine government didn't like that they were holding peaceful protests, protesting the new anti Russian laws that the Ukrainian govt were passing so the Ukrainian government sent in the army along with thousands of Ukrainian "nationalists" (Nazis) to go and bash heads and murder and the Ukrainian army has been murdering Russian civilians in Donbass ever since, thousands of them have been murdered but those days are OVER now and Kiev is paying for their war crimes in Donbass.

Even a few ex US military moved to Donbass in the last 8 years and are helping protect the Russian civilians and fight the Ukrainian government.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Military Training for Young Children at Ukraine’s “Neo-Nazi Summer Camp”. Recruitment of Ukraine’s “Child Soldiers” Financed by US “Nonlethal” Military Aid?

The pictures are taken from this site above however its linked back to Globalresearch.ca

According the the site mediabias

Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information; therefore, fact-checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources.

Overall, we rate GlobalResearch a Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy and Strong Pseudoscience website based on the promotion of unproven information such as the dangers of Vaccines and 9-11 as a false flag operation.

Thank you for adding this info this provides me a little more meat to chew on indeed

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: dollukka
Here is the whole story about this

LINK

It say

Formally part of the Ukrainian National Guard, Azov is a de-facto private army which was originally financed by oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Its current sources of funding are unknown, and the battalion says it relies on private donations.

So doubt they are in government program... just something else

Pics are not recent at least 5 years old

Azov is in a government program, they are part of the Ukrainian national guard and they, along with the Ukrainian army, have been killing ethnic Russian Ukrainians in Donbass for 8 years. They have been known to torture and behead ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine.

They have been killing russian invaders and ukrainian traitors that were trying to steal part of Ukraine.

It appears they didn't kill enough of them to discourage another russian invasion.

Did it?

You do you obviously don't know what you are talking, you do you.

The people of Donbass didn't go to Kiev to start fighting, the Ukrainian army came to them. They wanted to form their own republic, which they have because Ukrainian government was making it illegal to speak Russian and practice many Russian traditions and ways of life. Ukraine was trying to cancel Russian way of life in Donbass and all over Eastern Ukraine. Ukraine government didn't like that they were holding peaceful protests, protesting the new anti Russian laws that the Ukrainian govt were passing so the Ukrainian government sent in the army along with thousands of Ukrainian "nationalists" (Nazis) to go and bash heads and murder and the Ukrainian army has been murdering Russian civilians in Donbass ever since, thousands of them have been murdered but those days are OVER now and Kiev is paying for their war crimes in Donbass.

Even a few ex US military moved to Donbass in the last 8 years and are helping protect the Russian civilians and fight the Ukrainian government.

Ok you win, I don't know what I'm talking about.


Now please tell vlad to immediately remove all russians from all Ukraine.


You know, so those evil nazi bio lab Ukrainian lizard aliens don't kill them all for invading their country twice in 8 years.


Frightening bunch, them.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: dollukka
Here is the whole story about this

LINK

It say

Formally part of the Ukrainian National Guard, Azov is a de-facto private army which was originally financed by oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Its current sources of funding are unknown, and the battalion says it relies on private donations.

So doubt they are in government program... just something else

Pics are not recent at least 5 years old

Azov is in a government program, they are part of the Ukrainian national guard and they, along with the Ukrainian army, have been killing ethnic Russian Ukrainians in Donbass for 8 years. They have been known to torture and behead ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine.

They have been killing russian invaders and ukrainian traitors that were trying to steal part of Ukraine.

It appears they didn't kill enough of them to discourage another russian invasion.

Did it?

Put it this way, back in the early 90s Quebec wanted to separate from Canada because they felt they were losing their culture and the Canadian government didn't have their best interests. People of Quebec held protests in Quebec about wanting g to form their own country. Now Canada agreed to give the people of Quebec a chance to vote to see if they wanted to separate from Canada (which they obviously didn't since Quebec is still a part of Canada).

But let's say the Canadian government operated the same way the Ukrainian government does/did. Canadian government announced they no longer want people speaking French, or practicing any French beliefs or traditions in Canada, even in Quebec were 90% of the people are French and speak French as their main language.

So instead of giving the people of Quebec a chance to vote on becoming their own republic, the Canadian government instead sends in the army and starts attacking and killing the citizens of Quebec, because "how dare they want to keep speaking French and continue practicing their cultural backgrounds and beliefs". They don't want to try and spread their French beliefs on people of English speaking areas of Canada, they just want to keep their beliefs and language in Quebec, were 90% of the people are French anyways. So it shouldn't matter to the rest of Canada or the Canadian government if this one area of Canada, where all the French people live, keep their language and cultural background alive, should it?

Along with the army, thousands of "nationalists" (Nazis) from the other side of Canada, because the Nationalists are mad now to, "How dare they speak French in a French area of the country?" What are they thinking? They must be put in their place or they must die" also travel to Quebec because you know those French people aren't being very patriotic to Canada and they should stop speaking French and practicing their cultural beliefs."

The army and the thousands of Nationlists show up on their door steps in a forceful matter "these French people must be terrorists if they want to speak French here in Quebec". The Canadian army starts attacking and beating the people of Quebec, if anyone fights back or speaks up, we must kill them because they will be a problem for our country of Canada. So after days of attacks, beatings and murders, the people of Quebec start fighting back. "If we don't fight back the army is gonna keep beating and killing us and look they are setting up bases right in our cities, to make sure we are not speaking french"

Some of the people of Quebec start fighting back and start forming small groups of resistance here and there. The vast majority of the people in Quebec can't help fight back though because there are tons of elderly living here, there are children and women as well and because well they are civilians and peaceful people that just want to live life but keep speaking their native tongue, they aren't trained "freedom fighters".

So word gets back to Ottawa and the Canadian Prime Minister, that the people of Quebec, still think they should be allowed to speak French and practice their cultural beliefs. The Prime Minister finds out that even some small groups of resisters have formed and they are fighting back against the army. This makes the PM very mad.

"Call up the airforce General, I want you to start sending in airstrikes on these people in Quebec fighting back", "But Mr Prime Minister, these groups of resistance are small and we don't even know where they all are because they live with the other civilians in Quebec, besides its maybe only 5% of the population that has actually taken up arms against us", "I DONT CARE GENERAL!!! Send in the bombers to Quebec and start bombing these damn French people, i dont care who dies or how many, children, women, the elderly, they are all French people who still wanna speak French, BOMB THEM ALL!!!"

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel
!!!"

Have Mexico try to take back Arizona.

Watch what happens.



Ukrainians are, and have been for 8 years, killing russian invaders and ukrainian traitors who were and are trying to steal a portion of Ukraine in violent fashion.

Apparently they didn't kill enough of them to prevent another russian invasion.


Caught up now?



Good.

Now please tell vlad to immediately remove all russians from all Ukraine before they all get killed and russia is further destroyed economically.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: dollukka
Here is the whole story about this

LINK

It say

Formally part of the Ukrainian National Guard, Azov is a de-facto private army which was originally financed by oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Its current sources of funding are unknown, and the battalion says it relies on private donations.

So doubt they are in government program... just something else

Pics are not recent at least 5 years old

Azov is in a government program, they are part of the Ukrainian national guard and they, along with the Ukrainian army, have been killing ethnic Russian Ukrainians in Donbass for 8 years. They have been known to torture and behead ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine.

They have been killing russian invaders and ukrainian traitors that were trying to steal part of Ukraine.

It appears they didn't kill enough of them to discourage another russian invasion.

Did it?

You do you obviously don't know what you are talking, you do you.

The people of Donbass didn't go to Kiev to start fighting, the Ukrainian army came to them. They wanted to form their own republic, which they have because Ukrainian government was making it illegal to speak Russian and practice many Russian traditions and ways of life. Ukraine was trying to cancel Russian way of life in Donbass and all over Eastern Ukraine. Ukraine government didn't like that they were holding peaceful protests, protesting the new anti Russian laws that the Ukrainian govt were passing so the Ukrainian government sent in the army along with thousands of Ukrainian "nationalists" (Nazis) to go and bash heads and murder and the Ukrainian army has been murdering Russian civilians in Donbass ever since, thousands of them have been murdered but those days are OVER now and Kiev is paying for their war crimes in Donbass.

Even a few ex US military moved to Donbass in the last 8 years and are helping protect the Russian civilians and fight the Ukrainian government.

Ok you win, I don't know what I'm talking about.


Now please tell vlad to immediately remove all russians from all Ukraine.


You know, so those evil nazi bio lab Ukrainian lizard aliens don't kill them all for invading their country twice in 8 years.


Frightening bunch, them.

I'm not sure why you are posting this picture and trying to say I'm some conspiracy person, I'm probably one of the most knowledgeable people here that knows what's going on in Donbass, Eastern Ukraine and Russia since I'm an ethnic Russian, who has been there, lived the culture and still have family living in Eastern Ukraine and Moscow, but like I said you do you.

I'm not saying Russia is in the right in all this but Ukraine is FAR from being innocent, it's the most corrupt country in all of Europe and they have committed some real atrocities to the ethnic Russians in Eastern Europe. They committed atrocities against ethnic Russian Ukraians that would top stuff that ISIS did and stuff a few members of the US army has done in Iraq and Afghanistan.

There is a good documentary that came out a year or so ago its called "Donbass: Today, tomorrow, the future" I believe, if u can find it, it will teach you a lot

I'm out though, have a good night and weekend

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