Russian Forces Destroy blocking water supply to Crimea

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Dalamax
Your probably not getting an answer because your question is loaded.

By naming an aggressor you are emotionally loading your rather black and white question. Effectively setting up a peep who answers as either supporting your emotional knee jerk or condemning themselves in your eyes as on Putin’s ‘side’

There are alternatives to your solutions.

Either rephrase your query or open a little leeway to receive a more reasoned, less specific answer.

If you want any form of meaningful response that is.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

LoL I'm not emotional about this, I'm being logical. It's a very simple question. If Putin invaded YOUR country would you fight back or submit to Putins rule. Explain what is loaded about this lmao.

The people in Ukraine are putting up a very good fight so that says a lot about the will of the citizens of Ukraine not wanting to be under the communist dictatorship rule of Putin. I don't blame them. I would be doing the same.

I reluctantly agree with you.

I back the Ukrainian for the sake of it’s people. Putin is killing innocents
I back the Ukrainian for the sake of it’s people. Putin is killing innocents.

Where I have a problem is that fighting globalism is just as important as fighting communism.

We are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

All the issues that we fought against over the last few years have been swept under the rug and we’ve been forced to run back into mummy’s arms.

Genius on the globalist’s part. The UN, WEF, and Globalist agenda is moving forward at lighting speed and we’ve been hoodwinked into supporting and lending legitimacy to it.

Where you backing the Russian civilians when Ukraine was literally killing and dropping bombs on thousands of innocent Russian people in Donbass over the past several years? I'm just curious, or are you now concerned because the Western media is telling you to be? where as in the past the western media barely if ever reported on the Russian civilians being murdered at the hands of Ukraine? All a psych-op to make sure you feel for Ukraine and hate Russia.

If the western media had been reporting on the murders of Russians in Donbass by Ukraine all these years along with Zekenskyys tyranny towards anyone critical of him (like they do with Putin) and Ukraine cutting off all the fresh water to Russian civilians in Crimea, do you think anyone would be feeling sorry for Ukraine or do you think people would have been hating Ukraine for many years now? Imagine the western media had been showing us dead Russian civilians on the streets of Donbass, their bombed out houses and apartments, once great farm land in Crimea turned into a barren desert do to the Ukrainians building dams to keep fresh water away from Russians. Showing how hard it has been for the Russians to get drinking water and the water restrictions they were put on due to Ukraine, were they could only shower once a week, if they were lucky. Now imagine seeing these stories over and over the several years, there would be tremendous hate on Ukraine.

Putin has shown tremendous restraint over these last 8 years and has warned Ukraine many times to stop killing innocent Russian civilians in Donbass, but Ukraine continued killing Russians and destroying their houses and apartments. Couple this with the fact that Ukraine was looking to join Nato, Putin would never be able to protect his people in Donbass without being attacked by all of NATO. Ukraine in NATO would literally give Ukraine a free pass to continue killing Russians in Donbass/Donetsk without any worry of Russian retaliation.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
callously running your neighbors over with tanks

Are you talking about the Ukrainian armored vehicle that was recorded swerving across the road and crushing that Ukrainian car? The one the media were quick to falsely report as a Russian armored vehicle?

I'd suggest you start diggin'fo'truf with a passion. You believe too much of what you're being told to believe.

In the amount of time he's had, Putin could have annihilated The Ukraine and commenced the occupation of many countries which have made it their goal to remain a thorn in his side. The Baltic States are at the forefront of my mind, but Poland is a ripe candidate too. And, considering there's no manly armed force to oppose him, he could probably consolidate those gains quickly and shore up any effort to push back his new borders.

Hell ... for the life of me ... I can't understand why he has been so restrained. No one who knows what he's had to put up with could blame him. I know I've sat in back rooms smoking cigars and laughing about how the West constantly screws him over. Turned-in that membership a few years back though ... still guilty.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Where you backing the Russian civilians when Ukraine was literally killing and dropping bombs on thousands of innocent Russian people in Donbass over the past several years

Is this false?

People's Republics (DPR and LPR, respectively), armed Russian separatist groups seized government building throughout the Donbas, leading to armed conflict with Ukrainian government forces.[30]



While the initial protests were largely native expressions of discontent with the new Ukrainian government, Russia took advantage of them to launch a co-ordinated political and military campaign against Ukraine.[31] Russian citizens led the separatist movement in Donetsk from April until August 2014, and were supported by volunteers and materiel from Russia.[32][33][34] As the conflict escalated in May 2014, Russia employed a "hybrid approach", deploying a combination of disinformation, irregular fighters, regular Russian troops, and conventional military support to destabilize the Donbas.[35][36]

en.m.wikipedia.org...

And thus is F’d up

Russia’s Supreme Court rules that the USSR did not invade Poland in 1939
02.09.2016
Halya Coynash

khpg.org...


The rulings are extraordinarily cynical. Whatever was said at Nuremberg, any genuine historian will confirm that the Soviet Union invaded what was then Poland on September 17, 1939.

To deny this is absurd when the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and its secret protocols which carved up Poland between the Soviet Union and Germany have long been in the public domain, and can be read about in any history book.


Russia’s Supreme Court rules that the USSR did not invade Poland in 1939
02.09.2016
Halya Coynash

khpg.org...

—— You have Russia rewriting history, purposefully destabilizing government’s, invoking violence, and now actively killing citizens. And you want me to feel sorry for the rich SOB Putin flooding the streets with citizen’s blood to enrich his own corrupt a$$?

The killing of civilians in their own countries in an unprovoked attack is not justified in the least bit. You don’t champion human rights by violating human rights and erasing history.

a reply to: Snarl

You

Are you talking about the Ukrainian armored vehicle that was recorded swerving across the road and crushing that Ukrainian car? The one the media were quick to falsely report as a Russian armored vehicle?

Do you have actual evidence other than each side’s propaganda on who drove the Russian made armored vehicle?

a reply to: Snarl

Are you talking about the Ukrainian armored vehicle that was recorded swerving across the road and crushing that Ukrainian car? The one the media were quick to falsely report as a Russian armored vehicle?

It's still unclear whether it's Russian or not. Point is Putin is in there killing Ukrainians.

In the amount of time he's had, Putin could have annihilated The Ukraine and commenced the occupation of many countries which have made it their goal to remain a thorn in his side. The Baltic States are at the forefront of my mind, but Poland is a ripe candidate too. And, considering there's no manly armed force to oppose him, he could probably consolidate those gains quickly and shore up any effort to push back his new borders.

Hell ... for the life of me ... I can't understand why he has been so restrained. No one who knows what he's had to put up with could blame him.

Hell yeah! Russia should do what Putin has been wanting, reunite the Soviet Union. Invade and take back every country that used to be under the scope of the old Soviet Union. Let's get that cold war started again and on to WW3!

Go communism! Fu** freedom!




/sarc

Unbelievable...

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Please



Wit this "Russian invading without cause"

Ukraine has murdered thousands of Russians civilians in Donbass/Donetsk.

Ukrainian airforce dropped bombs on Russian neighborhoods in Dombass & this was investigated by and confirmed by the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE). The OSCE is an intergovernmental organization with observer status at the Untied Nations. They investigated and conformed on more then one occasion the Ukrainian airforce bombing Russians. So stop staying this "without cause BS"

originally posted by: neutronflux
Do you have actual evidence other than each side’s propaganda on who drove the Russian made armored vehicle?

That is a fair question. I'll answer it like this:

Given that we're talking about on-going hostile cross-border military operations ... do you think it would be an operationally sound idea to have a single armored vehicle driving around ramming civilian cars on open roads? Or, do you think most of Russia's military forces would be operating in groups where one vehicle could support other military vehicles?

I'm sorry, but one vehicle autonomously 'murdering' people is one of those events that's made for propaganda TV. Odd thing too that it was an event so clearly captured and recorded ... and then got quick press attention ... that's since been withdrawn ... when the lie was exposed.