Anyone else feel like Putin following orders?

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: peaceinoutz
We've already had a meeting of leaders in Munich, so if they decide to "guarantee" Poland we will know what to expect for the future.

Are you talking about the present?

It is ironic that Putin will be threatening soon Poland and we all know that started WWII.

NATO is gearing up for something. Maybe they know something we don't know, but one thing is for sure, this all is very, very dangerous.

And BTW, I do remember your old post about the 4 horsemen

I think we may be there, soon, or already there...

I got a real bad feeling about all of this.

a reply to: Prisoner60863

Not necessary to plan.

There's an old saying:

"Never kick a man when he's down.


But everyone knows that the best time to kick a man is when he's down, it may not be fair, it many not be honorable, but it is the most effective.

Nobody wants to play by the old rules anymore.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
And BTW, I do remember your old post about the 4 horsemen

I think we may be there, soon, or already there....

Yes, indeed. I've been bumping that theme since the pandemic started.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Read my Post AGAIN Carp , I Mention " Globalists " . I doubt there are 40 Million of them in Ukraine. Geez........

Putin is, indeed, acting in accordance with his parts in a script that even major players such as he can't fully comprehend. At the heights Putin has achieved in global influence, he surely has a better grasp on reality's true nature than the vast bulk of humanity. But, even this broader perspective doesn't afford unlimited visibility. In fact, to have thus ascended in the first place, Putin would've long ago learned that genuine autonomy does not exist anywhere in the human chain of command. There is always a greater power which must be recognized.

And that is not a reference to religion or theology, even obliquely.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Surely, Putin is forcing World public opinion against him by his own actions? And every lie coming out of his mouth?

Perhaps the the poor man is just badly misunderstood?

The Ukraine is Rife with Globalist Corruption .

Hunter and Joe proved how corrupt their leadership- and ours- is. 'Their leader is Jewish' means squat- being Jewish doesn't mean you can't be corrupt, or that you even follow any religious ideology. Like Biden is 'Catholic', it doesn't mean squat.

a reply to: ChayOphan

As a young leader lawded by Klaus Shwab.A member of the WTO, one would have to ask what is going on. At one level they are friends and at another they seem to be enemies.Did Putin break from the old gang at some stage.I hear dhe was a mason, made sure the Czars family had a state burial. Its hard to know what to believe anymore. One thing is for sure on past actions, Putin and Lavarov will act within international law, as long as everyone else does.But if that law does not suit certain parties it will be ignored. You cant run foreign policy like that.

a reply to: Prisoner60863

No not really. You can go back at least 10 years and read his comments on the fall of the USSR and tell he's been wanting to reestablish the so called power that he thought mother russia always had.

Here is something interesting from 2018, these folks seem to be fairly on target with their predictions.

3. RUSSIA AS WE KNOW IT ‘WON’T EXIST’ The next decade will see Russia “seeking to secure itself” before economic decline hits, Stratfor warn as it continues to act aggressively in the region. Seeing itself under the gun, it will appear even more aggressive and territorial as it continues to exert its power internally and externally, but it will come at a cost. “Russia will also seek to reintegrate the former Soviet republics into some coherent entity in order to delay its demographic problems, expand its market and above all reabsorb some territorial buffers,” the forecast predicts. Such action will make its neighbours anxious both in terms of national security and rapidly shifting economic policies. Rising military cost, declining oil prices and internal issues will all weaken Russia further with its inability to control the federation creating a vacuum. While Russia won’t split up as such, Moscow’s influence will weaken significantly, which in turn will create a raft of semi autonomous regions. “We expect Moscow’s authority to weaken substantially, leading to the formal and informal fragmentation of Russia,” the report warns. “It is unlikely that the Russian Federation will survive in its current form.” Countries including Poland, Hungary and Romania will also look to recover territory gained by Russia throughout various times in history.

The world in 2025: China loses power, Russia ‘won’t exist’

a reply to: anonentity

If one takes a broad enough view of human events, the interconnected nature of all earthly endeavors emerges with undeniable clarity. Should be noted, however, that even the most committed seekers of such perception are generally undone by its discovery.

"There are truths which are not for all men, nor for all times."
Voltaire

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Surely, Putin is forcing World public opinion against him by his own actions? And every lie coming out of his mouth?

Perhaps the the poor man is just badly misunderstood?

You make a valid argument, but don't forget the big picture where media and gov agencies are caught backing total lies or even fabricating things. Thus, leaving us at the mercy of news from liars.

One thing we can say for sure is the media is not telling us the truth about many things. We just can't trust any part of this story we didn't go to the Ukraine and see for ourselves at this point. Almost nothing can be corroborated other than the lies.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: peaceinoutz
We've already had a meeting of leaders in Munich, so if they decide to "guarantee" Poland we will know what to expect for the future.

Are you talking about the present?

It is ironic that Putin will be threatening soon Poland and we all know that started WWII.

NATO is gearing up for something. Maybe they know something we don't know, but one thing is for sure, this all is very, very dangerous.

And BTW, I do remember your old post about the 4 horsemen

I think we may be there, soon, or already there...

I got a real bad feeling about all of this.

Luke 21:28

Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.

a reply to: Justoneman

And that is exactly it. How can we believe any of what we see from media? In a world of deep fakes, outright lies, fabrications, agendas and now manufactured consent, it seems like nothing is as real as any of us think it is.

So media tells us the war is Putin's fault. Putin invaded the Ukraine. Putin Putin Putin. It wasn't that long ago this same media was telling us Putin tried to influence our election, Putin hacked our election, Putin spied on our candidates, etc. Turns out that was just hillary and company.

One thing I know for sure without ever having to hear it from media, not that I ever expect to, is government loves a good disaster. Its a massive power/money grabbing opportunity. The last few years have been a great example. Just one thing after another. Each one relayed to us like its the end of the world. Each one fizzles out just in time for the next one to hit the headlines. Its nonstop. It will never end.

We had covid, covid light, covid draft, covid with lime, caffeine free covid, covid extra, not to be mistaken for covid plus, and so on. We had freaking murder hornets for Christ' sake. Mask on, mask off, mask on, mask off. Nurses are heroes. Nurses are terrorists. Truckers are heroes. Truckers are terrorists. That statue has to die! Change the syrup! Change the syrup! Phuck the homeless, we have to do something about these plastic straws!!!

God am I depressed... I am really starting to think a few well placed daisy cutters are about the best thing that could happen to this country. Don't get me wrong, I love my country... I just hate what it has become and the people who made it happen.

Whatever, if the crap goes down, we just have to remember to look out for each other.

No matter what we believe or political side, we have to come together

Remember what Reagan said about if some aliens came done on us how that would bring us together, at least for a while.


Today my fridge died and um checking myself out worrying about losing all the food in the fridge, then I thought what about the brothers and sisters in Ukraine?

What are they going through? Leaving their homes in abject fear not knowing the future or if they’ll even get a meal, and I’m worried about some tv dinners I have to throw away.

Perspective

a reply to: Vroomfondel

I Hear you, but as I said in another thread

If you see a man help an old woman from falling down some stairs one day, you pat him on the back and say good work.
But the next day you see him mugging a woman. You tell him, stop it, that’s wrong.
I think Putin did good in Syria but this is not good.
The US did terrible in Iraq and Libya (NATO TOO) and we should call that out.
And they should have chilled out when Russia was down and out and maybe not gone so fast with NATO. But that’s history
I don’t have to say
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
And three wrongs dam sure don’t make a right


So when America does good we praise them or anyone else does good, but when they do bad we call them out.

that's all we can do, IMO.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Thank you, I hope so, for all of us...or most of us.

As for the conspiracy angle. What it might be that’s going on is the US wants Russia to get embroiled in another Afghanistan-type war. Remember the last one was instrumental in destroying the old Soviet Union.

Now, this is something observable. Look for yourself. All the ex-government guys on ALL CHANNELS FOX, CNN, MSNBC, and others, and I mean ALL OF THEM. Are talking about doing the insurgency on Russia. I saw an ex-CIA guy just avoiding question after question from Wolf Blitzer and constantly going back to the Ukraine insurgency America must support. I kid you not ALL OF THEM are obsessing over that angle...and even many of the politicians.

That likely is no coincidence, but orchestrated.

a reply to: Prisoner60863

Normally I would answer your question with a simple 'yes' and move on but the topic is too delicious. I think I'll stay around a while.

You spoke of ‘wars and rumors of wars.’ Then there’s Covid and/or Pestilence. I’ll add, the world is full of sin like in the 'times of Noah.’ Wrong is right and right is wrong...

Spoiler Alert: In the end? We win! We being those who have faith in the ‘Lion of the Tribe of Judah’.

The time has come for the lot of you to decide what side of the fence you're on.

As for Russia? Yes, I do believe the attack on Ukraine has been planned for a long time. Longer than most might think.

In fact, in Ezekiel it's written Russia will one day look South for all the natural resources She so desperately needs.

Russia will have a 'hook in its jaw' drawing it closer and closer to attacking Israel.

Ukraine is just one of the first steps leading to the Tribulation = End Times.

~ peace

originally posted by: rigel4
Putin is following orders from his own head ...

yes, it's hard to ignore the voices.

ETA;

en.wikipedia.org...

The first step of any plan is creating the enemy, the monster who runs amok, a beast among us.

It seems that China is supporting it, while most others, condemn it.

The Soviet Union usurped many other nations, and everyone else did nothing, and when the USSR 'split apart', for no reason, all these nations were 'free' once more! But now, Ukraine is their target, so it seems, at least.

The whole thing is a game, and where it ends up, only they know. But I think this is only a step, along the way towards the main goal, sad to say.

Putin is merely a pawn, playing the role of 'maniacal villain'. Nothing new here.


After we have a great villain, we must have a great HEROIC figure, to stop his evil deeds. That's step two.

a reply to: Prisoner60863

Thats something I told my friend yesterday.... Here in the netherlands and most countries are about to be liberated from most covid restrictions and then like you said this crap happens... With this nw order agenda going on and all those other "secret" and illegal gettogethers of significant international political heavy weights we should not loose our eye on the ball.

This Zelenski character does not give me a wholesome warm feeling either. He made himself suspicious when he used a valueble moment to talk to his people to inform them that he is number one and his family number two on the russian hitlist...or capture....list. I am afraid that when the smoke clears he will turn out not to be the ukraine patriot he claims to be. Could be wrong tho... but he arrested the political opposition and closed 3 tv station which expressed their doubt in him. Maybe a bodylanguage expert should watch the speeches of putin and zelenski...realy would like to know their conclusions.