Increased death rate of young teen males in the UK being investigated

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Not at all. Read the article, though.

I'm all for an investigation, by the way.

You are always welcome here. That we challenge you when you are non sensical about our situations, then we will make a comment. I am fine with you being a skeptic. But in order for you or me to earn respect we have to admit when we are wrong. I can say some people never ever do. You won't be on that list unless you want to be. When it is staring you in the face, just admit it.

These idiots that came back on to say Russia Hoax was really not one after all we have learned put a spike in their own credibility for life. When we say we have evidence of the vax causing trouble and share it with you, IIRC you have been flaming for the gov position more than not. THAT is what gets a logical person like me to engage people in a way that acknowledges the error needs correcting. When I am wrong I will apologize for the confusion and let it rest.

a reply to: Justoneman

Bit worried that you refer to yourself as "we"?

I have never posted anything about your "Russia Hoax", but anyway, what has that got to do with a thread that's about the UK?

And you have been "flaming" for your own position, more than once.

Other opinions are valid, too, you know?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Don't be a curmudgeon I am reaching out with an example for goodness sake.

Other opinion's backed by actual facts are valid. We vet facts here. You tend to think that vetting excludes certain items? You could use vetting of your ideas here as well as me. I am fine with being challenged.

We have a chance to earn respect. We all do. Why you think in the singular of just you and me on that IDK? Each of us are a part of this and WE NEED to vet each other.

a reply to: Justoneman

What's with your "we" thing?


Again, this thread is about the UK.
Who is "we"?

Nothing on BBC news.

I smell bs.

a reply to: CJCrawley

Never mind.

We are more concerned about a Red Met Office warning about Storm Eunice.

Anyway, if it was on the BBC you'd probably still smell bs.

a reply to: machineintelligence

Need more time to determine the cause(s). At least they're not shoving them under the rug by labeling as Covid-19 deaths.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

it was on the BBC you'd probably still smell bs

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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Justoneman

What's with your "we" thing?


Again, this thread is about the UK.
Who is "we"?

So called "we" comments would be about discussing credibility in any discussion. Here again you have an obtuse view in THIS THREAD that needed addressing with an example. IDK what to think now with you. Maybe, it is over your head. IDK, I think your faking being this way to stick to your point that "the gov is right and shuddup about the death rate"... That is all that I think makes sense to one such as you put on to be. So, carry on with your "bad self".

a reply to: Justoneman

Maybe, all you have is personal attacks?

Nice straw man, by the way.

a reply to: CJCrawley

You heard.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

What do you mean?

I trust BBC news. Always have.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Justoneman

Maybe, all you have is personal attacks?

Nice straw man, by the way.

It is not personal. If you feel that way, I am sorry. It is about the facts. If you know them and can defend them, then fine. I don't care who you are. I care if it there is drivel or knowledge from anyone here including you. That is not personal.

a reply to: Justoneman

Ah. "Drivel" is not personal? OK.....,

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Justoneman

Ah. "Drivel" is not personal? OK.....,

Drivel is up to the author and the author could do some solid research instead of going "no, it isn't so" as you did here. What word would you suggest I pick from Roget's? I am open for using a better word for when someone keeps ignoring the facts and just being obstinate in response. Not adding to the concept but arguing a straw man point.

Do you think the data is hogwash or not, and if so what have you got to back it?

Found another article….no pop op requesting your email

Article leads off with “Increase in male mortality in 15-19 year olds should be investigated”.

Article states “ Depending on the baseline chosen, the excess for 15-19 year olds is between 16% and 47% above expected levels (see table 1 and 2). COVID-19 deaths were too small in number to account for the excess.”

Multiple graphs are included.

www.hartgroup.org...




a reply to: Oldcarpy2

If you want to look at excess deaths in different countries and drill down the data this might be the best website to use…

stats.oecd.org...




a reply to: machineintelligence

a reply to: CJCrawley

I trust BBC news. Always have.

The quote above is one of the most terrifying statements
an individual can make.

This is the mindset of millions across the globe.
Misinformed, manipulated and deceived beyond recognition
that clandestine alphabet agencies control and decide
what's sent via teleprompters.

Dozens of books have been written by researchers,
whistleblowers, and investigative reporters cataloging a
mountain of evidence to this fact.
I've already spent too much time on this site posting
many of these books. Regardless of my efforts,
it's apparent ignorance is their chosen occupation.

I suspect the majority will never read such material
that would help educate their ignorance.
Unfortunately, due to this ignorance, the conformist
mindset, with naive a plump ALWAYS accepts the official
media-driver narrative made for public consumption.

They will continue to labor under various
misconceptions to understand what many of us see
as obvious. I admire those on this site who try to
debate with these people.

Due to past military conditioning, I, myself, family,
and a group of veteran close friends have decided
to draw a line in the sand. We have decided to steer clear
of this mindset.

At this point in History, without any doubt, we
believe this mindset alluded to, is dangerous to a
freedom loving republic.

Claiming this mindset is on the wrong side of History
is an understatement.