Decoding the Bible

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

If there is "no me or you" who are you talking to?

No one is talking......talking happens, breathing happens, sound happens...(in and as the image of god).

What appears to be happening for you, or me, is not the same for everyone else, hence things are indeed separate.

Whatever appears, whenever it appears and where ever it appears, is just an appearance .......it doesn't appear 'for anyone'.

Apparent life appears all by itself.....there isn't something/someone separate to it.......apparent people are in the movie of life.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Life(abiogenesis) does not just appear Itisnowagain. LoL

It requires certain conditions and compounds which contain specific elements such as carbon, nitrogen, hydrogen and oxygen.

Which then bond together in complex sequences forming organic molecules, like sugars, enzymes, proteins and.....DNA.

Life does not just pop into existence.

As to no one talking, well we are, so there is that.

a reply to: andy06shake
Eating from the tree of knowledge is not where life is at.

Life is not made of words.

How tasty and filling is it to eat the menu?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

If you could simply show this tree of knowledge, metaphorically or otherwise, that might be nice.

Words are our creation and part of the human speech and writing system, and we are after all alive.

Life is about existence from a philosophical standpoint.

Scientifically speaking its simply any system capable of performing functions and reproducing.

a reply to: andy06shake

Wow you have some memory on this also, can you do this with most things, give a Googlesque example of a wide array of happenings without the actual need for Google, I'm amazed

I'm very impressed Mr shake, you must have an high IQ

a reply to: GUGLiL

Say what now?

Canny be that smart as i did not understand much of the above.

I do however have a fascination and interest as to the origins of life and how it most lightly came about.

There's is also these things called books which contain a variety of different information along similar lines to your beloved search engine.

Whats your claim to fame again?

As to there being any sorts of Biblical code, apparently the same phenomena can be found and observed in any sufficiently lengthy text.

a reply to: GUGLiL

Is "the firmament" not supposed to be the crystal dome god created around the Earth?

Far as im aware heaven would be somewhere above that thing.

As to heaven well their are apparently 7 of those at least from a religious or mythological cosmological standpoint.

And on the flip side of that we also have hell with its nine circles.

a reply to: andy06shake

And on the flip side of that we also have hell with its nine circles.

Is that from Dante's standpoint?

As to heaven well their are apparently 7 of those at least from a religious or mythological cosmological standpoint.

When you say apparently do you mean according to something you read?

In religious or mythological cosmology, the seven heavens refer to seven levels or divisions of the Heavens (Heaven).
en.m.wikipedia.org...#:

a reply to: Itisnowagain

There are 9 circles of hell in Dante's "Devine Comedy" who if memory serves was also a Christian.

The concept of there being 7 heavens through goes all the way back to ancient Mesopotamia long before the Bible ever existed.

3 levels in the Bible, according to Paul.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

The concept of there being 7 heavens through goes all the way back to ancient Mesopotamia long before the Bible ever existed.

Did this quote from wiki say anything about the bible?

In religious or mythological cosmology, the seven heavens refer to seven levels or divisions of the Heavens (Heaven).

Or does it say what you stated:
"religious or mythological cosmological standpoint"

a reply to: Itisnowagain

No, but topic of the thread is after all "Decoding the Bible".

The Devine Comedy was written in 1320 and published 1472, might not be as old as your good book but rather ancient nonetheless.

As to the concept of seven heavens being a mythological standpoint, well Hinduism even touched on the notion with 7 upper and lower worlds.

What's you point, or do you simply dismiss the fact that rather a few organised religious practices(some of which predate Christianity and the other Abrahamic religions) associate the number 7 with the idea of heaven?

a reply to: andy06shake

I'm just admiring you're wide array of knowledge
You know a lot you must have studied many books and swam the holy see, and even met the dragon and had a cup of T with the unicorn

a reply to: Itisnowagain
I wrote a thread about seeing the image of an eye of what I thought was the eye of the dragon, this was when I was in a trance state, watching the cm faces of the shadows of the unconscious or whatever you want to call it, than an image of an eye came into view in a definition beyond real, I was kinda hypnitized with it and came out the trance, first uhd vision though, been trying to make sense of the dragon, but the bible has a negative portrayal of the dragon, its apparently Satan, although it seemed, passive to me and unthrratening, but it was an eye,

a reply to: GUGLiL

I've probably met a few dragons and had a cuppa with a unicorn or 3 but i don't remember reading books at the time.

Might have been the tea that done it all the same.

a reply to: andy06shake

Ooft wizards hats nearly broke reality, the light is scary af

Oh what a Divine Comedy this is.

a reply to: GUGLiL

Its the dark most people are afraid of.

As to reality and wizards hats, far as i can establish ones just not completely understood and the other quite pointy.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Thing there is Dante's "Divine Comedy" was ultimately about attaining salvation as opposed to humorous banter.

a reply to: andy06shake
The cosmic joke no one will ever get.....because when it's got.... illusion of separation disappears...

There is no one to save......never was!!!

There is just what is appearing to happen.....no thing separate, so no one to save.

originally posted by: GUGLiL
a reply to: Byrd
Aye but see when a writer stays up to 3 am and writes a masterpiece, often these people explain that it wasn't them that writ it, like musicians hit with a force of inspiration, the words come from nowhere, 8 know this happens as it has happened to me
People may take the credit but often the say there was another power working through them

However, that wasn't the case with the Bible.

There's more than one version of each of the manuscripts. There is no actual "original" document for any of them. The earliest Bibles (the Vulgate is the earliest known, and it was a retranslation of the Vetus Latina) actually aren't consistent... in the Vetus Latina ("Old Latin Bible") there's actually 27 versions that are different from each other.

So...no, not late-night inspiration stuff.

If you really wanted to "decode" it you would have to go back to the originals. Otherwise you're "decoding" what Sam wrote as he translated Bill & Ted's version of a book and Bill & Ted couldn't find an original source but used Frank's Notes For A Sermon About This Book instead and Frank took those translations and notes from Jeremy's library which was copied from something he found at the Library of Alexandria... etc, etc, etc.

And unfortunately all those manuscripts are lost. So we only have what someone said was a history of Jesus written by Mark the Evangelist (who didn't write it) and the current version of the book has some stuff tacked onto it (the oldest manuscript ends with the women running away from the tomb to tell the apostles that it's empty.)

You run into similar issues with the other gospels.

As far as I know, the Vulgate is the only version of the Bible to have a SINGLE translator (Jerome.) Other versions had multiple translators.

An interesting paper about Jerome's translation as the major source of textual fraud in the Bible is here However, the piece is weak because it doesn't cite sources. A more reliable paper on versions of the Book of Revelation is at that link.

So...

tl;dr- any attempt at finding a code has to go to an original manuscript -- of which there are none, and the many versions of each and every book of the Bible suggests you'll not be successful in finding the original to decode.