Now even Democrats call for Hillary Clinton to be investigated over Durham!

Now the question is are they going to start a war with Russia to protect the Hildabeast? That wouldn't surprise me a bit.

a reply to: Waterglass

If they're calling for her to be investigated, it's safe to say it's only so their department will overlook their own involvement.

a reply to: Arnie123

I would love to be proven wrong but its been the same song and dance for multiple decades now just remixed.

However I also think that's peoples hopium and insignificant declaration of victories like when someone is being investigated does more damage than good at this time.

Not talking about you but many have been consumed with the "[insert party or candidate] got OWNED" youtube videos that will surely come out of this and while it reinforces their notion that the OTHER party or candidate is at fault , they completely overlook that nobody got really held accountable for anything. Reverse the party blame and repeat.

Unfortunately an investigation at this point has been shown to mean absolutely nothing and shouldn't be looked as anything more relevant than a political she said he said thing from cnn or foxnews.

People need to look at the end results , remove their party loyalty , and focus on THEIR OWN PARTY and CANDIDATE if we need to resolve the corruption.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: interupt42

I thought they had a couple of indictments already?

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Are you talking about Clintons drivers step son classmates best friends dad that got charged with jay walking a dog?

BOOOM its Habbening

sorry , but I will wait to incline one x measurement of hopium when someone of the clintons significance is actually held accountable.

Ground hog day.

a reply to: interupt42

Wow! Someone's saying it out loud... and someone's actually reporting it!!! Thought you'd like to see this too --

Ex-Director of National Intelligence claims Biden and Obama KNEW ABOUT Hillary campaign plot to hack Trump servers: 'Enough evidence in Durham's Russia probe to indict MULTIPLE people'

• John Ratcliffe told Special Counsel John Durham that there is 'enough evidence' to indict 'multiple people' connected to the origins of the Trump-Russia probe
  
• The former Director of National Intelligence met with Durham more than once
  
• Ratcliffe's pointed Durham to a declassified CIA memo of Clinton approving looking into Trump's Russia ties as a way of distracting from her email scandal
  
• The report was sent directly to then FBI Director James Comey and then-Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok

a reply to: Boadicea

Again I would love to be proven wrong , but I see absolutely nothing unusual about this hopium delievered news.

Key words:
1. Ex-Director - Meaning it means nothing.

2. Ex-REPUBLICAN-TRUMP-Director - Meaning this will get dismissed as an alt-right wing trump conspiracy that will go away with some OWNED youtube videos in the end.

3. Enough evidence in Durham's Russia probe to indict MULTIPLE people
Meaning a few sub makers that came in contact with some political high ranking person will go down.

I know I sound pessimistic but what evidence is there to suggest to people that they shouldn't be? It brings me no pleasure to say such things or to feel that way , but that is the reality based on the last 2 to 3 decades at minimum.

I guess I will check back in 2024 when DeepFake Biden gets 1Trillion votes.

a reply to: Waterglass

I have been saying this for years. This is how democrats operate.

They lie, deny, commit any criminal act they feel necessary, accuse others of doing what they are the most guilty of, commit more crimes, lie some more, destroy evidence, banish, threaten and cancel truth every chance they get. Then, when all their criminal efforts fail and the truth is coming out whether they like it or not, they jump to the head of the line and "Lead the charge for justice".

STOP BEING FOOLED BY THIS CRAP!

Greetings ATS. I am brand new here and figured I would throw my two cents in about Killary. Is this not just a page from the democrat playbook ? Oh I would imagine that several rhinos use it as well. Smoke and mirrors to take focus off of other things. Politicians are loosing their grip globally. Biden and the dumocrats are itching for war in Ukraine and the covid narrative is breaking down. So why not take advantage of the angst the right has for Hillary ? They know what they are doing

a reply to: Vroomfondel

STOP BEING FOOLED BY THIS CRAP!

not likely, the power of hearing what you were hoping to hear is far to appealing and strong to overcome for most.
Squirrel .........................

a reply to: interupt42

I totally get what you're saying... and I don't even really disagree... I'm sure not holding my breath for any justice or restitution or rectification...

But it's being said and it's being reported and that's more and better than we've seen on too many other serious matters.

And I hope this is just the beginning. More people are ready to believe the worst. More people are wanting answers. More people are looking for truth. They will find that Hillary's people are Obama's people. Hillary's lawyers are Obama's lawyers. It will be obvious that the same people incriminated on behalf of Hillary are Team Obama people. If enough folks keep shining a big bright light on the associations of the guilty with Obama, more people will question Obama's complicity.

And Biden is just Obama's unwitting (literally and in the worst way) puppet and mouthpiece at this point. I actually feel quite sorry for Biden, and consider the continued exploitation and manipulation of him genuinely cruel and abusive. (Side-eyeing his wife in particular here...)

One of the things that has come out here -- and that one gubernatorial candidate has been remarking upon -- is that the election shenanigans and other political games have hurt liberal and Democrat candidates who aren't part of the cabal as much as anyone else. The cheaters at the top pick the winners and losers in their own party as well. It's really not about left vs right or Biden vs Trump. It's about the corrupt vs everyone else.

I think -- I hope and pray -- that this is what many people are coming to realize.

Active FISA warrants are included in the potus daily intel brief.
Obama is in this up to his neck as is Biden.

Pretend we haven't gone over this ground.
We have.

a reply to: Boadicea

I get what you are saying as well.

However my concern from observation for over a decade or 2 is that people have become more consumed with proving their party is better , lesser evil , or " see I told you so" than really actually fixing the system.

unfortunately these type of investigations have only led to inflate the ego and distract the puffy chested individual from actually holding their own party accountable. So it becomes just another Right vs Left political witch hunt that quietly goes away.

I think we have reached a level where hopium has become a liability for the general folks that is used against them by the establishment to naturalize any accountability.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Active FISA warrants are included in the potus daily intel brief.
Obama is in this up to his neck as is Biden.

Pretend we haven't gone over this ground.
We have.

I think it goes back even further through the bush and clintons. Obama ,clintons, bush,etc were all just puppets the real people making the decisions are in the background . I would say Cheney and Bush Sr had more power than Obama with the sh1ttery that our govt has become. However no doubt Obama earned his turd trophy.

Remember the bush were buddy buddies with the laden and saudies and they got ladens family to safety immediately after 911. Bush also got back lash for wanting to sell out our ports to foreign entities as well.

What ever fookery has been done you can bet its not just a democrat thing.

If Hillary gets away with this, precedence will be set and the Republicans can use this tactic on all Democrat congressmen and women. This would be a disaster for Democrats since all the Republicans have to do is focus on hacking Pelosi and Schifty Shift, because they have all the evidence of wrongdoing of all the house democrats in their possession...that is how they probably control them.

a reply to: rickymouse

since all the Republicans have to do is focus on hacking Pelosi and Schifty Shift, because they have all the evidence of wrongdoing of all the house democrats in their possession...that is how they probably control them.

Only an idiotic and short term mob boss would get incriminating evidence required for control after making the individual into an underboss. You can't make it to an underboss level without already being compromised and controlled by the BOSS/DON.

These people are owned long before you hear of their name and its not a democrat or republican issue as they all work for the same BOSS/DON.

Hilary has been committing acts of treasons for decades, she got emboldened during the Obama administration because Obama was just like her and both complemented each other.

This is not only Hilary, she needed Obama in order to do what she did.

But who is going after Obama now? nobody, he is a former president.

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: interupt42

People need to wake up and realize this is not a Republican vs Democrat thing . BOTH party along with the MSM are JUST tools for the same unknown entity that controls them.

Agree but its quite clear that even Trump had NO control over the alpha agencies although you claim he did. He didn't. He was impeached

An actor was impeached. He wasn't even present in the court room because it was just more bipartisan theater to mollify the populace. Rather strange to act like a multibillionaire celebrity is somehow helpless and unconnected in the vast economic chess board of industrial and political influence.

My thoughts exactly. More like, they will do anything to protect their power and establishment cabal. Hillary is just one of their group. They can't let this get truly exposed or investigated, as it would implicate many players across politics, media, government, and private sector.

originally posted by: mikell
Now the question is are they going to start a war with Russia to protect the Hildabeast? That wouldn't surprise me a bit.

a reply to: interupt42

You're not wrong... so I cannot argue with you... but neither have I lost all hope yet. I'm not trying to be a Pollyanna. I know we're on treacherous ground here.

But I also think that we're going through growing pains as a relatively young nation, that was ambitious enough and determined enough to try something new... freedom. Too many of us have taken it for granted, and not appreciated the need to protect and defend and preserve that freedom from the tyrants.

Some lessons we need to learn the hard way. But sometimes those are the lessons we need to learn the hard way, and the lessons we learn best.

a reply to: Boadicea

How do you suppose we conquer the colossal leverage that "dark money" exerts over US leadership and policing agencies? There's never going to be justice or even a feasible counter attack as long as industrial pillars continue to reinforce federal authorities.