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Calling any theoretical physicist’s. Atoms travelling through time and space ideas

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posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 06:41 AM
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Hey,

So my internet is pretty bad atm as im visiting my parents but a thought came to me and you will have to watch a bit or the whole video to fully grasp it. But if you want to save time maybe try 17 mins 30 seconds…



Basically he is discussing an atom travelling through time but staying in the same space which creates a toroid.

To me it makes absolute sense, except i started wondering about plank space and the creation of space as everything is getting more distant from one another due to spaces expansion.

So in his video it shows an atom traveling through the same space in a toroid, however space expands, and i was wondering if the atom traveling through space it perhaps what creates extra space and is the cause for spacial expansion and if instead of like his image of an atom trevelling through space in the same place, if an atom traveling through space might be in a golden ratio spiral or just a spiral like our sun does through the milky way galaxy and since it is traveling through space still in a toroid form.


So an atom traveling through time still in a toroid form, but also in a golden ratio spiral or just a spiral like our sun through the galaxy, and maybe that is what creates spacial expansion.

I don’t know. Multiple thoughts and ideas.

If anyone is a theoretical physicist maybe you might know better. Im just a weirdo on a phone atm drunk and thinking of things… 😀



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 06:43 AM
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Maybe the spiral would account for the angles of the toroid in the video?

Maybe something traveling through time spirals…

Whats that mathematical thing where you keep zooming and zooming and zooming never ending zooming? Maybe that number or other numbers? Idk. Just ideas.

I mean it creates a toroid.

Maybe its the spin of the toroid the creates motion and the expansion of space. Maybe only some atoms create extra space because they un unbalanced or over weighted in a section that makes them wobble? Like too many electrons over here and the atom wonbles too much and needs more space?

Maybe some atoms are capable of creating virtual particles by their movements.

Maybe virtual particles are the reason for spacial expansion. Like if a virtual particle is created in a vaccuum then it needs space to be created it. Maybe it creates space at the same time and doesn’t just appear on the space currently present.
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posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: DaRAGE
Time is an illusion.......
If time does not exist then space doesn't either.

Only what is showing up exists......

If this is realised then there's no requirement for fancy 'theories'.


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posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 07:00 AM
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I an quite certain space is an illusion and there is no space at all. Everything exists in the same place. A place without any space. I am quite certain of that. However, im talking about things in the illusion of space which is the reality we experience, not the reality we know exists aka stuff talking about in spiritualism and religion etc.

Space and time is an illusion, however i am talking about the illusional reality of space and time that we are currently experiencing.

I’m drunk. Give me a break please. I can’t go that deep right now.
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posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 07:05 AM
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originally posted by: DaRAGE

Space and time is an illusion, however i am talking about the illusional reality of space and time that we are currently experiencing.


These words are the experience.... currently.
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posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 07:08 AM
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a reply to: DaRAGE

I’m drunk. Give me a break please. I can’t go that deep right now.

Right now appears as everything.....even drunkness. 😉



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 07:41 AM
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Ah yes, I am theoretically a physicist.

Atoms are mostly empty space.

That is all.



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 07:53 AM
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So time travel is impossible? You can’t travel to something that doesn’t exist….. only to your illusion of it.



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 07:56 AM
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a reply to: Archivalist
A vacuum is never completely empty, but instead buzzes with so-called “virtual particles” that constantly wink into and out of existence.

I imagine that what is appearing presently as reality, consists of 'virtual particles'......



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 07:58 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
So time travel is impossible? You can’t travel to something that doesn’t exist….. only to your illusion of it.

Who can travel to an illusion?

Even the imagined 'who' is an illusion.



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 08:00 AM
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Or…

I have an abandoned railroad bed behind the house where the rails have been removed. The only thing that keeps me from being hit by a past train when standing on the bed is the separation of time.



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

Then why is there consequences to my actions. My actions can kill or permanently disfigure someone independent of my intentions. Or the some for comets hitting a planet no matter how much I imagine such a thing cannot happen.

I would very much like to imagine you out of my reality. But there you are, posting a thought in time.



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

Oh. And don’t worry. You’ll be forgot about in about twenty minutes. If not sooner.



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 08:09 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

But I guess there was nothing to forget in the first place



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Then why is there consequences to my actions. My actions can kill or permanently disfigure someone independent of my intentions. Or the some for comets hitting a planet no matter how much I imagine such a thing cannot happen.


They are not 'your' actions.

What's happening is happening.....no one is doing what's happening.

There is no individual doer of action......no thing separate.

It's a movie......that is aware of itself as it happens.

Have you ever peeled yourself away from what's actually happening in the immediacy?
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posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 10:32 AM
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"Time is an illusion, lunch time doubly so." Douglas Adams.

Time is the preceived property of the universe that keeps everything from happening all at the same instant.

If atoms travel in time, where would they end up? Where they started from is millions of miles from where they were a short time ago or a short time in the future.




posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 11:24 AM
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My theory on time:

Time, when zoomed in is just the progression of physical laws as they are applied. I do not think the universe is simulated, but it has to run on laws, as we know. How fast these laws are applied and how many cycles it needs, determines the speed of progression throughout the chain set of rules.

If we look at that process in theory, we can look at it from an absolute or relativistic viewpoints in terms of the progression of matter. Like if we freeze the moment a billiard ball impacts on the initial pyramid. From the moment the energy went into the ball from the cue, it's all predetermined. The surface is there, the energy / inertia change is ongoing and everything from now on (and before) is determined by rules.

Now, if we know that and simulate it, we can have two models for the reference of location of each ball. Relative to whatever 0-point we choose as a coordinate gives us a reference layer, or relative to each other particle / ball. Also for acceleration, deacceleration and their negative counter parts.

What I am up to is that, if we find a physical mechanism or loophole that let's us access and manipulate that predetermined domain of variables, we could have teleportation AND time travel in one device. Because actually teleporting somewhere instantly is time travel, as the physical propagation of the physcial laws that are called for reality to form, would need to be speeded up.

Its like looking on a map and tracking a car, knowing it has to go from A to B in order to reach C and you know before it starts, by the average travel speed, when it will reach that location. And you speed up time (progression of results of physical laws interacting with matter and fields) on that route, so all the physical laws progress faster.

We would also need that to pre calculate destination coordinates and initiate inertia balance, since Earth spins and moves in several dimensions... or the craft or machine would be ripped apart on arrival, having different speed and inertia.

So even the teleporters from star trek need to have this feature, evident in the episode where they try to teleport on a ship doing warp speed.



TLDR; Think about a 3D printer in it's own bubble of time churning out thousand of parts a second and then you have to replace it after an hour, because time runs ten million times faster inside the bubble and thus the 3D printer decays, but raw material and finished product enter and leave the bubble just in time. Think physical / chemical processes / extraction of energy (!).

If we could do that, then we can reshape reality. Not saying it's a good thing though. We will # up somewhere, as always.
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posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain
Oops, just saying I am not a theoretical physicist, missed that requirement.
It's all made up.



posted on Feb, 9 2022 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: DaRAGE


To me it makes absolute sense, except i started wondering about plank space and the creation of space as everything is getting more distant from one another due to spaces expansion.

Only from reference frames/points measured from within the volume of space/universe.

Alternatively, 2 or more fixed points within the volume (embedded in spacetime) of the universe would remain equal distances apart relative to the scale of the universe.


So in his video it shows an atom traveling through the same space in a toroid, however space expands, and i was wondering if the atom traveling through space it perhaps what creates extra space and is the cause for spacial expansion and if instead of like his image of an atom trevelling through space in the same place, if an atom traveling through space might be in a golden ratio spiral or just a spiral like our sun does through the milky way galaxy and since it is traveling through space still in a toroid form.

His example of that doughnut shaped toroid doesn't go far enough to help understand what is happening. As you have pointed out that space is expanding. Then there should also be more rings appear as the toroid gets larger. Like orbital shells of an atom and where the hole is the nucleus for example.

To explain it further. Think of the "big bang" as the emergence of an infinite source of a positive energy rotating and expanding in 3 dimensions (length/height/width) equally from a central point (isotropic). Creating an expanding universe/space.

As the energy travels away from the source (repulsive), it is being rotated and creating the electro effect.

These diagram will also help explain better (they weren't meant for this reply). They contain side notes with a math description. Of which. The 3rd diagram shows the quaternion equation where i have replaced the terms i/j/k for l/h/w as it is describing a 3 dimensional space/object. Where the math in the 1st and 2nd diagrams are my attempt to describe how the quaternion equation in the 3rd diagram was formed. But, might be incorrect. They try to explain how rotation, expansion and entanglement of the emergence of a singularity/+ energy create a duality.

Rotation/spin is very important to consider. It is widely accepted by science. But you could not have rotation without also having to consider another fixed set of dimensions (superimposed) by which to measure the changes.

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The aspects of the expanding dimensions and their + are rotated and carried round to their opposite (fixed set) coordinates. Up to down and down to up of the height dim for example. Where up and down are not only aspects in their own right, Are also a symmetric partner pair of the height dim. And are at squared positions to each other. Squaring by 90* x 90* (half rotation/spin).

Up and down were always travelling up and down in their rotational dimensions. And when they arrive at their opposite/squared coordinates/half spin/rotation they are still travelling in their up and down directions. But now appear from points away from the source tending back towards the source. The rotational set of dims and their aspects become anti of the fixed set of dims. The entanglement that occurs creates new points. The positive aspect is changed to a negative and becomes the magnetic effect. Anti particles being particles in their opposite coordinate and of opposite charge. Not as is commonly believed to be "just be particle travelling back in time".

2nd.



3rd is after 1 complete rotation/spin. The result being the creation of the nucleus where the negative puts a limit to the potential infinite positive energy forming the shell. A finite state of energy that can be measured.



The expansion continues with rotation and another shell is created (the outer surface of the doughnut toroid).

Take this as my opinion. As i am neither a scientist nor mathematician.



posted on Feb, 10 2022 @ 05:51 AM
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I did major in physics at university and know enough to be able to tell the author of the video you posted is a nut.

So if you want to know about serious physics, find a more reliable source, who isn't a nut. Here are some youtube channels covering physics topics, which are reasonably close at expressing mainstream views usually fairly accurately, and even sometimes contemplate the ins and outs of some more fringe topics. None of these are nuts:

PBS Space-time, Matt O'Dowd
www.youtube.com...

Veritasium, Derek (Mueller)?
www.youtube.com...

Fermilab, Don Lincoln
www.youtube.com...

Sabine Hossenfelder
www.youtube.com...

Those folks are reasonably reliable in giving accurate information, and none of them are nuts like the author of your OP video.

Another good channel is sixty symbols, where someone asks questions of various professors at the University of Nottingham, who vary in their fields of specialty and amount of expertise. But more topics can be covered this way, since folks like Sabine Hossenfelder will comment primarily on subjects in her field of expertise, and maybe not as much outside that.

Sixty Symbols
www.youtube.com...


originally posted by: neutronflux
Or…

I have an abandoned railroad bed behind the house where the rails have been removed. The only thing that keeps me from being hit by a past train when standing on the bed is the separation of time.
I wouldn't say that. When looking at the earth from a larger frame of reference, time isn't the only separator. The earth has been revolving around the sun and the sun has been orbiting the milky way galaxy at over 500,000 mph, so there's also quite a bit of space separating you from the old train, say to an observer in the andromeda galaxy, watching the earth and sun zip around the Milky Way.

Galactic Year

The Solar System is traveling at an average speed of 230 km/s (828,000 km/h) or 143 mi/s (514,000 mph) within its trajectory around the galactic center


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