Tennessee BLM founder sentenced to 6 years in prison for illegally voting

The same BLM that wanted to de funded the police? cops? de funded jails? and among other issues now a former Tennessee BLM founder sentenced to 6 years in prison for illegally voting.


dont expect CNN,MSNBC to report on this new story because CNN support BLM.
Tennessee BLM founder sentenced to 6 years in prison for illegally voting


Memphis BLM founder Pamela Moses sentenced to 6 years for illegally voting

“You tricked the probation department into giving you documents saying you were off probation,” Ward said in court, the Washington Post reported.

a reply to: vNex92

I'm guessing her previous littany of felony convictions contributed to such a harsh sentencing. Despite being vehemently opposed to her Marxist racist organization, I do not condone such a harsh sentencing for registering to vote. I think technically she is just receiving the sentence she was supposed to serve had she not been on probation. So this was a violation of her probation and it's standard procedure that a judge can levy your maximum sentence when you violate.

Seems to establish she has a clear pattern of non violent paperwork crimes. Tampering with evidence stalking a judge etc.. indicates she refuses to learn from her poor choices and will continue to live a fraudsters life.

In Colorado, a man who was charged in 2021 with murdering his wife, who had disappeared in May 2020, was also charged with illegally casting her ballot, for Trump, in the November election. He allegedly told FBI agents that he submitted the ballot because he thought "all these other guys are cheating" and his wife would have voted for Trump anyway.

What does that have to do with the leader of a terrorist organisation being locked up?

a reply to: MiddleInsite

Just pointing out that BOTH SIDES DO IT.

When a hypocrite's finger is pointing, there is usually another hypocrite's finger pointing back.

a reply to: Dalamax

a reply to: MiddleInsite

So you know he voted for trump because the news told you? I mean no one knows who any of us voted and you think you can prove this happened then prove it.

IM CALLING BS on you for this one.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Just pointing out that BOTH SIDES DO IT.

When a hypocrite's finger is pointing, there is usually another hypocrite's finger pointing back.

a reply to: Dalamax

Where the hypocrites reside is firmly in the Progressive/Marxist camp and we all damn well know it too. That you can try to spin the disaster of Progressiveness as good will not fair well for your credibility on any platform but on the liberal media sites who are dying by off as we watch for being the liars they truly are.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Just pointing out that BOTH SIDES DO IT.

When a hypocrite's finger is pointing, there is usually another hypocrite's finger pointing back.

a reply to: Dalamax

WAT award.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Just adding a bit more context than was in the article. She was never taken off the voter rolls. She went to her probation officer who signed off on it.
She was accused of "tricking" the probation officer.

At the time, election officials should have removed her from the rolls, but the court never sent election officials in Memphis the documents they needed to do so, according to a letter from an election official I obtained.

Moses didn’t know anything was amiss until 2019, when she launched a long-shot mayoral campaign. Election officials said she couldn’t appear on the ballot because of her felony. When they began to look into her eligibility, they also realized she had never been taken off the voter rolls. Moses went to court and asked a judge to clarify whether she was still on probation, and the court confirmed that she was. What happened next is at the crux of the case against her.

Moses did not believe the judge had correctly calculated her sentence. So she went to the local probation office and asked an officer to figure it out. An officer filled out and signed a certificate confirming her probation had ended. In Tennessee, people with felony convictions who want to vote need that document from a correction official. Moses submitted it to local election officials along with a voter registration form.

I don't think the 6 years has anything to do with history. A woman in Texas got 5 years for voting while on probation.

Oddly enough in this case below, the person was facing 10 felonies but got no jail time.

Cheryl Hall, a Republican and supporter of President Donald Trump, falsely submitted at least voter registrations in which she altered the party affiliation from Democrat to either Republican or no party affiliation in connection with the 2020 presidential primary election. The discrepancy with the voter registration forms was discovered by a county election supervisor noticed that several of the forms had identical handwriting; several of the voters also complained to the Supervisor of Elections that their party affiliation had been changed without their consent. Hall pleaded no contest to 10 felony charges of submitting false voter registration information and was sentenced to 1 year of supervised release and fined $723.

Guardian
Heritage Voter Fraud Cases

ETA: The Heritage site has a listing of voter fraud cases and the court case results if anyone is interested.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Just pointing out that BOTH SIDES DO IT.

When a hypocrite's finger is pointing, there is usually another hypocrite's finger pointing back.

a reply to: Dalamax

Can't leave a thread without a WHATABOUT! How about make your own thread? You know that's possible?

a reply to: vNex92

I am not even slightly shocked to see this was someone based in Memphis. I lived there for eight years and the number of times politicians got popped for corruption was crazy. From the mayor on down the line, just about everyone associated with him was investigated in some fashion.

I recall when the Memphis city school district voted to surrender their charter, all schools reverted to Shelby county control. When the time came for Shelby county elections, every single member of the Memphis city school district board ran for election. They were so inept with funds they thought that was the best way to get more, even though that district had(s) the highest funding in the state. All of the small suburb towns decided to form their own school districts to prevent the previous Memphis city school district members from draining their pockets. There were some interesting court battles around that as I recall.

a reply to: MiddleInsite

Both sides didn't extend the voting deadline and cast tens if not hundreds of thousands of votes for their guy..

Jaden

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Just pointing out that BOTH SIDES DO IT.

When a hypocrite's finger is pointing, there is usually another hypocrite's finger pointing back.

a reply to: Dalamax

ok for your statement to have ANY factual validity you have to be able TO PROVE that "both sides did it" is near (but does not have to be exactly) EQUAL in numbers and years .

im sure you can find some voter irregularities/fraud FOR republicans.

but i DEMAND YOU PROVE they are in anyway even close to the democrats.

with your logic (which you use quite often) then the US is no different than Nazi germany.

because there are "evil people / evil things done" .

but IT ISNT

your logic FAILS in THIS CASE..

well unless you can BACK IT UP WITH PROOF.

Scrounger

Virginia Gov.-elect Youngkin’s underaged son tried to vote in Tuesday’s election, elections officials said

The 17-year-old son of Virginia Gov.-elect Glenn Youngkin (R) tried to cast a ballot in Tuesday’s gubernatorial election twice despite being too young to vote, Fairfax County officials said in a statement released Friday.

Not once, but TWICE.

This was not a someone on probation that was not aware that they were ineligible to vote and seeking to sort it out and preparing a provisional ballot that would could be used if it turned out she could.

This was the 17 year old SON of the Governor Elect who KNEW he was too young to vote and never-the-less DEMANDING to be allowed to (illegally) cast a ballot.

The similarity of the two cases is that neither resulted in a ballot being counted.

The difference between the two cases is that the first one is a (black) probationer who got 6 years for trying to do the right thing (follow the defined process while the mess is sorted out) and the second is the (white) son of the Governor who maybe got grounded for the weekend when the story got out.

This is the definition of "white privilege".

The article in op says that the tampering with evidence conviction permanently revoked her voter eligibility. P/O's do # up, i know from experience when i threw mine under the bus for telling me wrong information way back. The day after I spoke with the judge, she called me at 7am on my day off, yelling her lungs out. Woke my lady up out of bed too and it was not on speaker. I grogily said to her "all I told the judge was the truth" and told her i would see her on the next appointment day, then hung up.

If she was indeed given bad information by the probation officer, which I can absolutely see as a possibility, then I think she should at least get her violation and six year sentence overturned. However, if the tampering with evidence conviction in Tennessee does revoke that right permanently, then it's up to their legislature to fix that particular problem for her.

What some folks are missing here i think, is that it is not the illegal voting charge that is getting them prison time. It is the fact they are violating probation on an existing conviction. When you violate probation, the judge can either levy the full sentence that conviction carries regardless of how minor the violation is, or reinstate probation, often resetting it.

I have met folks who are on fourth and fifth reinstated probation, and others who go to prison on first violation. It really is at the judge's discretion.

Just curious. Anyone know the reasoning why someone on probation cannot vote? I mean of course you lose some rights, etc, but why voting? Seems to me unless you've committed voter fraud previously then sure lose that right, but I fail to see how another crime should make you ineligible.

Why stop thousands if not millions from voting?

originally posted by: frogs453
Just curious. Anyone know the reasoning why someone on probation cannot vote? I mean of course you lose some rights, etc, but why voting? Seems to me unless you've committed voter fraud previously then sure lose that right, but I fail to see how another crime should make you ineligible.

Why stop thousands if not millions from voting?

It is felons who cannot vote. If they are on probation for felony they are not done with their repayment to society.

a reply to: Justoneman

Yes thanks. I should have done some research anyway. I did come across this article which was interesting, it had background and the history on it, including basis on race, when early voting rights were granted, and political motivations in the more current times.

Some states are making changes.

Vox

originally posted by: frogs453
Just curious. Anyone know the reasoning why someone on probation cannot vote? I mean of course you lose some rights, etc, but why voting? Seems to me unless you've committed voter fraud previously then sure lose that right, but I fail to see how another crime should make you ineligible.

Why stop thousands if not millions from voting?

It depends on the state. It's one of the rights given to the states by the Constitution.

Remember that we have no national voting law and that each state sets up who can vote and who can't. In some cases, prisoners can vote. In other cases, they can vote once the sentence is completed (nothing about probation.) In others, you can't vote until you've finished both jail (if necessary) and probation.

And yes, it prevents a lot of people from voting. Many folks have been trying to overturn this for quite awhile. However, I don't see that happening until we get some sort of national coordination on who can vote and who can't.