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posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 10:40 AM
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www.theatlantic.com...


In a series of articles this month, The Washington Free Beacon’s Aaron Sibarium reported that hospitals in Minnesota, Utah, New York, Illinois, Missouri, and Wisconsin have been using race as a factor in which COVID-19 patients receive scarce monoclonal-antibody treatments first. Last year, SSM Health, a network of 23 hospitals, began using a points system to ration access to Regeneron. The drug would be given to patients only if they netted 20 points or higher. Being “non-White or Hispanic” counted for seven points, while obesity got you only one point—even though, according to the CDC, “obesity may triple the risk of hospitalization due to a COVID-19 infection.” Based on this scoring system, a 40-year-old Hispanic male in perfect health would receive priority over an obese, diabetic 40-year-old white woman with asthma and hypertension.




Meanwhile, Minnesota’s Department of Health used a scoring calculator that counted “BIPOC status” as equivalent to being 65 years and older in its risk assessment. (BIPOC is shorthand for Black, Indigenous, and people of color.) New York did away with a points system entirely; people of color are automatically deemed to be at elevated risk of harm from COVID—and therefore are given higher priority for therapeutics—irrespective of their underlying health conditions.


Interesting. And this........in the US today. So, basically, if you're white or obese you go to the end of the line, or, if you're in New York, you don't even get a place in line. One question that this brings to mind is, why do white people still identify as "Americans"? Why do they support this government with military service?

The article makes several other great points......read it and weep.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: TonyS

its called reality


they arent going to give a limited supply of life saving drugs on someone that it isnt going to help.


its basic triage




its not race based its just outcome based.


if the fact is that some races are unhealthier than others or have other comorbidities that isn't the doctors fault.


they are there to save lives not waste valuable and unrefillable resources on people that will die anyway.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: noscopebacon

To say it isn't race based indicates you simply havent read the article.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: TonyS
ethnicity blood type



Most common blood type by ethnicity 

In the U.S., 38% of the population have O-positive blood, making it the most common blood type.

According to the American Red Cross, the following statistics show the most common blood types in the U.S.:

African American: 47% O-positive, 24% A-positive, and 18% B-positive

Latin American: 53% O-positive, 29% A-positive, and 9% B-positive

Asian: 39% O-positive, 27% A-positive, and 25% B-positive

Caucasian: 37% O-positive, 33% A-positive, and 9% B-positive



su sceptibility


The O- blood group had a 2.1% chance of getting SARS-CoV-2 infection (95% CI, 1.8-2.3%), the lowest unadjusted probability of all blood groups. The aRR for SARS-CoV-2 infection in the O blood group was 0.88 (95% CI, 0.84-0.92) vs all other blood groups, and the ARD was -3.9 per 1,000 (95% CI, -5.4 to -2.5). Comparatively, the highest unadjusted probability of SARS-CoV-2 infection was in the B+ blood group (4.2%; 95% CI, 4.0-4.5%). Results also indicated the aRR for SARS-CoV-2 infection was higher in patients with AB blood type compared with type A.

Rh- status seemed protective against SARS-CoV-2 infection with an aRR of 0.79 (95% CI, 0.73-0.85) and an ARD of -6.8 per 1,000 (95% CI, -8.9 to -4.7). The O- blood group also seemed protective, with an aRR of 0.74 (95% CI, 0.66-0.83) and an ARD of -8.2 per 1,000 (95% CI, -10.8 to -5.3). The relative protective effects of O, Rh-, and O- blood groups were greatest in patients younger than age 70.




These two points are worth consideration if we're following the science, as they say.
🙏❤

As we can see, the jab pushers hope to infect those least susceptible to infection.
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posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: noscopebacon

Sorry but that argument doesn't wash. All other things being equal healthwise: weight, comorbidity, age, etc., the BIPOC gets additional points over the white for race alone and no other reason. We could be talking about a well to do black business man and a WT dude from the holler without two nickels to rub together, but the black dude would be needier and receive treatment first.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: loveguy

Uh, did I read that correctly, the group least likely to contract the disease is the group prioritized to recieve treatment?



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko


i worked in the medical field for years and years and if anything it is so far left as far as social ideology that there is a reason that maybe we just didn't get.


maybe they are basing there scoring system on real life results

doctors don't care what color your skin is, period.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: loveguy

Uh, did I read that correctly, the group least likely to contract the disease is the group prioritized to recieve treatment?


Bingo!

bloodclots

The jab targets the ability to fend off infection....
Bloodclots was one of the first diseases people came down with after the jab.




posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: TonyS

or its based off fact based and the reason why it is the way it is.


or or you saying that there is a medical conspiracy to kill black people?

with a virus with a lethality around.1%?

if they wanted to kill black people they wouldnt treat their diabetes or their illnesses from being overweight.


sometimes real life needs to trump political correctness.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: noscopebacon

Then why give someone extra points gor their racial background? I hate to tell you this but it very much is rooted in the idea of equity and race. If I were not phone posting I would look it up, the reason rests on being part of historically disadvantaged groups.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: noscopebacon

Then why give someone extra points gor their racial background? I hate to tell you this but it very much is rooted in the idea of equity and race. If I were not phone posting I would look it up, the reason rests on being part of historically disadvantaged groups.


Insurance is a cleverly designed racket.
The care one receives is based upon their ability to pay.

Having a profit margin such that it is, healthcare shouldn't cost an arm and a leg, but it does.
🙏❤



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: noscopebacon

Doctors might not but hospitals and insurance companies sure do.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

because certain races react differently to virus's

facts of life stuff.

its not a arbitrary grading scale, there is a reason for it, or do you think they made it all up to oppress black people?



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: [post=26330408]loveguy[/he'll.

It does for two big reasons:

1. We largely expect someone, anyone else to pay for it. And that means all of it, so we have middlemen who know what it costs and must also be paid.

2. We let government become one of the middlemen. Government can always pay whatever it wants, so there is no downward pressure on price. It always has the deepest, least efficiently managed pockets.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: noscopebacon

Do they?

Of course. African Americans are some of the most vaccine averse despite the popular line in the press. Is it that the virus is worse for them or that they're less likely to be vaccinated and have a higher chance of poor prognosis?



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 12:33 PM
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if you want to see real racism go to china they HATE black people


they edited the movie BLACK panther so he never took his mask off.

this was so clearly a lab leak and the government of China said they were working on genomic virus's meaning it would effect one genotype over the other genotype and be more lethal.


back when South Africa was run by white people, remember they developed and tested their own nukes with help from the French and Israelis, they were also working on genomic virus's that would effect white people but kill most of the blacks that got it.

I know for a fact that doctors don't give 2 elephant turds what color your skin is, they just want to help people.


and if this is a list they put together I'm sure they have science and data points to back it up other wise this would be a scandal of scandals

and it isn't.

some virus's naturally attack certain genotypes or genders even age groups differently.

if you have a very limited supply of a medication and you KNOW it will make bed A better and it wont do anything for bed B because they are to far gone or have to many comorbidities to give it to them over bed A.

notice how color didnt play into that.


maybe its the way a certin slice of our community is living that is causing them their own strife and suffering.

when i worked in a hospital when i got home, SOOOOOO many elderly black people with their tows, legs, fingers arms etc were rotting off and i would ask them about their dite and they would say what they think i wanted to hear but they were like 600lbs in a mobility scooter doing no exercise and having their visitors sneak them junk food.

so imagine that person coming in and than a otherwise healthy teenager on the football team in the prime of his life and just happened to get COVID

who would you give the limited stock of medication to if you could only pick one or the other?



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: noscopebacon
a reply to: TonyS

its called reality


they arent going to give a limited supply of life saving drugs on someone that it isnt going to help.


its basic triage




its not race based its just outcome based.


if the fact is that some races are unhealthier than others or have other comorbidities that isn't the doctors fault.


they are there to save lives not waste valuable and unrefillable resources on people that will die anyway.


Im assuming your post was a joke? There was no information in there except, 'they said so, and look at this graph'

Weight, co morbidities, and age are by far the biggest outcome factors. There are rural black areas all over the south outside of urban centers (most people dont know this). There are no overflowing hospitals of black people in those areas, and they are statistically more overweight than black people in the northern part of the country.

There are many ways to easily show there is no increased risk due to race. How many people in Africa are vaxxed, and how are they doing?

The only reason they even argue things so ridiculous is because they want black people to love democrats, and they know a bunch of people who dont know any better will take it as truth, then actually argue with people who know what they are talking about. They are doing it to create more racial division, and the people arguing it is true without even knowing the statistics are as much or more to blame than the people pushing the policies in the first place.



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: loveguy

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: loveguy

Uh, did I read that correctly, the group least likely to contract the disease is the group prioritized to recieve treatment?


Bingo!

bloodclots

The jab targets the ability to fend off infection....
Bloodclots was one of the first diseases people came down with after the jab.


Correct, but the article from the OP was based on monoclonal treatments?



posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: ancientlight



a factor in which COVID-19 patients receive scarce monoclonal-antibody treatments first.


Monoclonal is scarce because it depends on blood types already consisting of antibodies to have derived from...gotta match the blood to the patient receiving the treatment.
That inadvertently reinforces significance of natural immunity being superior to contrived experiments that in hindsight increases mortality.


🙏❤


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posted on Jan, 31 2022 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: noscopebacon

Doctors aren't the ones who came up with the rules.

Government bureaucrats did. Do you want to make the same arguments about them?
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