The eye of the dragon

So last night. Probably after 1 am, I settled into my usual position before sleep to stare into the darkness behind the eyelids, usually shadowy shapes start weave in and out with demonic like faces shifting in and out, from pointy edged circus freaks to jokeresque mischievous apparations, flashes of light and strange inner whispers, I feel nothing now, when doing this, although the light always pings my stomach thankfully its only ever in flashes, at first it was something that was looked at through the lens of science, in the guise of the theories of the collective unconscious

Tinkering on the shoulders of psychosis may sound unusual but this is where you land when you have been asking the question "who am I" for 36 years, at a door where all your fears lie, the great unknown, when deep down you have known the world is an illusion the only real fear then is the truth

Thoughts like these occupy my mind as I stare at the ever changing faces of the chaotic unconscious of behind the veil, strangely detailed yet faint shadows of the dark, and yet there was more...
An eye came into focus
Colour appeared gradually at first, I can't remember now its colour, was it green or was it red, but what I can remember is that it was ancient, it was in hd, fear was rising I could detect it, but I was one step ahead I calmed myself and continued to observe, the eyelid was dynosaur like sand coloured I remember that for some reason, I couldn't determine whether it was evil or not, I was battling the flight and fight response within myself with rationale

I had read to expect these type of things, Jung met the devil, I searched for my old friend the light within the dragon and I came out the trance, it was an eye, it was in HD colour, it looked like it could be the eye of A dragon, it was looking back


Now I'm wandering, is the Princess really that worth it

I find your thoughts interesting. Now you might have people saying you are just hallucinating or seeing things on your eyelids that aren't there etc etc......
I dont buy into that, just ask yourself this, if its pitch black where you are laying down and have your eyes closed, then what exactly are the flashes of light you are seeing? That's your third eye or pineal gland that is now at work, and with this activation of sorts you now have access to see the "unseen".

These energies and beings you are getting glimpses of are very real and we can see partly through the veil. You are doing something right and fighting the fight or flight response is key to help you focus in on what you are seeing, keep training that and trust your gut. If you are getting feelings that some of these things are malevolent and you dont want to interact with them then all you have to do is raise your vibrations. Literally think of loving, joyful and funny things to the point of having a big smile on your face will make those bad things disappear because they literally can't stand that good vibration. Going into it with a good mindset in the first place will help bring you more positive and benevolent entities and energies. Think of it as what you put into it is what you will get out of it, so if you start off in a negative mood you will attract negative things. The law of attraction.

Try it and see if your experiences change. I do it regularly

a reply to: GUGLiL

Dante's "inferno" mentions the eye... why is the person leading him not good however? There are no shortcuts when that person knows the way ...their way and then talks as if they know the ways of others.

Plato's cave...

I saw the 'same' thing(more like a cow's eye) sitting outside a billiards establishment in broad daylight it seemed to appear about 10 feet away and three feet in size just opened up a shudder like people were running in fear ran through me like a door and all I did was smile into it as if all were oblivion anyways.

I closed my eyes and centered on the inner third eye behind me; there was another eye about 35 feet away that they all mustive ran into more like the eye of an alligator inner smiled at it then focused straight ahead again... Some silly voice tried to keep insisting I was some "new" person but for all I knew that person was already in existence still; aside from them saying break a leg? I wouldn't want to be "them". Fortunately, the billiards parlor opened up and in I went.

After getting a soda pepsi is a rarity on tap and pretty good... when I got through two games and a refill I noticed a man standing at the table I was playing on just looking at it and he touched the top he was black complexion a bowler hat on and a three piece grey suit and smelled of graveyard dirt sort of like a musty sweat with rotting cloth, the bartender after he left looked at me and said "those" are hard to get rid of.

I knew it was death trying to find "me" but blind to me "frog men" is what one old guy used to call them... hopping grave to grave trying to sell out all that person owns... three weeks before one showed up similar in sitting meditation his bowler hat glowing a slight green with that same smell he had a cricket butler with him as a twined spirit or 'devils" leg.

People such as those beyond birth and death and attachments material physical or otherwise confound them... but they persist and keep trying and after some time just go away.

Fearing "truth" no matter the life it wants to exist and it persists and many times through falsehood and camouflage that would normally instill or incite fear even if no wrong has been done they try to lay their burdens and wrongs at your feet their cravings and bonds on your hands and that doesn't work.

The concepts of gods and devils only serve as that chain binding and grinding but not resolving,,, after death cant find you people try to say you are "their" lord when scared of the sacrifice of "self" their "god" when they "feel" they need a witness other than their own wisdom and experience.

Not wanting craving or hankering it just is and what it is remains those concepts hateful scornful jealous etc petty and a waste as their is no striving for betterment or real escape from that suffering their intentions become cause for and give rise too.

Nirvana is just such a state that one cannot be reborn "gods" wish they could escape devils "wish" they could escape all of their children including men and all inbetween stuck to names stuck to forms stuck to beliefs stuck to relatives and still say all of that stuck is absolute?

All it is ...to borrow a description? Another "monkey" skewered after being ensnared in five ways.

Dante shows a guide that isn't free guided by ear nope guided by nose nope guided by eye nope guided by taste nope guided by feeling nope guided by hate nope guided by anything is the sickness simply being and all passes on through side or no side light or no light shadow or no shadow self supporting is something all of those cannot awaken too how self supporting? All of the countless corpses of oneself they have been the cause of... being faultless from the beginning... how clean how dirty when all duality is seen as a speck of dust floating on the infinite winds of change.

a reply to: GUGLiL

Try and enter the pupil, that's where the party's at.

As for that princess? You mean that glowing thing dangling in front of that angler fish? I'll pass

a reply to: BerkshireEntity

Thanks for your insights, I did have a feeling the other night that the air changed and I was struggling with concentrating on something else, so I just went back on the computer to game and draw my attention into that, worked a treat, will for sure try other things,

Cheers

a reply to: Terpene

When it was getting overpowering I imagined the light as tiny dot in the eyeball, but then I came to and lost the image, my first actual image though

Feels like progression

a reply to: Crowfoot

It depends on how you see it though, this world if anything is one that is mysterious, I trust nobody that thinks they know truth, for one man's hell is another's heaven and you may see yourself as but a speck of dust in a tornado of chaos, but I see my being as one that holds a universe

a reply to: GUGLiL

Wanna know something funny? Sitting in the middle of a galaxy in a black pond this silly head demanded I get out of his "world" I suppose he thought he had conquered something?

Some say galaxy some say lotus yadda yadda yadda whatever...

the tiny speck you mention is a window of birth and death or bardo as some have named it maybe it's your corpse maybe it's not.

Truth in my experience is suffering and nothing else it like impermanence means there is existence without impermanence there is no existence the grasping isn't a self and the letting go isn't a self jhanna or dhyanna states is what those are called or "dreaming on the cushion".

Easy to get lost easy to get conquered when one forgets when why and where they sit.

Staring decades at a "self" there isn't any reflection there other than grasping mistaken as thought... head full of nonsense is good head full of sense eats the root dreaming of the clouds... it's silly and yet it is empty.

That truth of suffering is not just life but all of that clinging to it even corpses with a tiny lil bit of gristle in there thousands of years old screaming as if the fire is still lit that burnt them.

So jumping in a light or bardo ship and flying it beneficial lays that stuff to rest and at peace such a thing cant really be followed but such a thing can be practiced.

Like going through the entirely of one's "current life" that all have been attached too gossiped lied etc and it's like bursting out in laughter as in im probably a smell of dog turd in your present moment you barely notice and yet me being a dog turd smell makes you jealous? What's worse don't even know you and yet im the root of your hate or issues? karma in being negative omg! I stepped in a dog turd and out of silence one opens one's eyes in knowing why ones body hurts for a dog turd instead of angry at it like those seeing it just laying there.

Most are like oh man meditation is painful... SHUT UP DOG TURD!(jokingly) as that isn't reality calling it meditating as meditating is all they think they have been doing.

The shakti that's the so called princess but not really more like the one that keeps giving birth to others attachment once one is free from such a thing.

I've always seen the colors, since childhood it were only 'waves' of bright colors I saw and nothing more. I was 17 when I started to see the faces. Every night when I closed my eyes they were there, even after I opened my eyes again they wouldn't go away and they freaked me out. I slept with the lights on for almost 3 years.
Then I found a mentor and he thought me all about meditation and visualization techniques and how to see beyond the demonic faces. That's when I started seeing the eye. First time I saw it, "eye of the dragon" were exactly the words I used!
I would say the quality of the image is far beyond high definition, more real then reality with colors that are more vivid then I have ever experienced outside of my vision quests.

Like someone else mentioned, go inside the eye, that's where the party starts.
Though I have never tried psychedelics, I imagine that's what they are like (if I can believe the stories of native tribes who use them for their spiritual journeys). I may see an entire world just as realistic as this one and I might go directly to wonderland. Sometimes I only see short 'clips' or images, some days even apocalyptic events.

For the last 25 years I've been going inside the eye almost daily and I still have the same questions now as I did the first day: What is this? Where am I? What am I seeing? Is this real or imagination? etc...
Except for this one time, what I'm seeing are not premonitions and the images are not symbolic.
I've heard dozens of theories but nothing convincing, still I keep doing it

so, enjoy it
and let us know if it's worth saving the princess!

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Yes the eye lid surrounding area was highly detailed it told a story in itself, it made me think ancient golden cracked like dragon reptile skin, the eye was hard to describe I was transfixed in the black iris, all the while consciously observing it all, fighting emotional impulses, trying to decide wether it was good or bad, when I should have just relinquished emotion,

Can you meet other travellers in this realm, or is this world solely yours, with universal archetypes

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Do you have the falling experience before this happens, the last few weeks before this I have been have the feeling I'm falling backwards and I keep getting an inner fright, I'm thinking maybe that's me stopping myself from getting into the trance state to see... What I saw... Are you always disembodied?

a reply to: GUGLiL

First of all, I think the eye is a universal symbol through history and there is a reason why people see 'eyes' in their spiritual workings. But maybe it is just our brain making sense of things, or maybe not. Who is to say that your eye and my eye are one and the same? And if it is a 'realm' as you call it, who is to say that it is the same? Like I said in my previous post, after all those years I still don't have answers and mostly I still feel like I have no clue what I'm doing.

That said, I used to study with a group of people who 'specialized' in this sort of things. Some claimed to have met for the first time in another realm before they found each other online. I don't know if it's true or not.
I did see an speak with other 'beings' there, who presented themselves in human forms to me, but the proof, or information from them that proves to me that it is 'real' is not there.... so I honestly don't know if it are archetypes.

Before you ask, that group I mentioned does not exist anymore and I haven't been in contact with any of them for 15 years. And honestly, most of these groups are not all about 'love and light'.
I did hear a lot of rumors about another group who met in a place they called 'dream university', it's supposed to be a realm where people meet to learn from 'mentors' and each other, mostly shamanism and things like that.

I'm honestly a bit surprised that not more people jump on this thread saying that they also see the eye, or the faces, lights, etc... I thought it was much more common

originally posted by: GUGLiL
a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Do you have the falling experience before this happens, the last few weeks before this I have been have the feeling I'm falling backwards and I keep getting an inner fright, I'm thinking maybe that's me stopping myself from getting into the trance state to see... What I saw... Are you always disembodied?

The falling experience is a hypnagogic shock, it happens when you are about to fall asleep and you snap back out of it. Happens to me all the time but not when I'm meditating or visualizing because I want to be fully awake when I do that.

Try practicing during the day, while sitting up, not when you are in your bed

I'm never disembodied....

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

I'm honestly a bit surprised that not more people jump on this thread saying that they also see the eye, or the faces, lights, etc... I thought it was much more common

Maybe those who know don't talk.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Maybe those who know don't talk.

maybe...

but those that think they know usually don't shut up about it

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Very interesting, you sound like me, most people on seeing the light will pounce on their prefixed idea of their conditioned belief system, or its a ghost

For me I'm like, what is this, what's its nature, is it just me, I think that people may be afraid to be termed mentally ill Tbh

When we should be investigating and sharing results

Like science

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Lol

Yeah I didn't want to go there

Eta

It's funny how that behavior deters the ones that honestly want to know from posing questions, almost by design.
there is a saying in my part of the woods that would translate to, if two are bickering, a third is frolicking, not sure it applies tough...

a reply to: GUGLiL

I think that people may be afraid to be termed mentally ill Tbh

You know, it always helped me that it's not actually a bad thing to be deemed ill by a mentaly sick society

You're doing good actually, many break at some point and many would say breaking is part... On that part I'd be like a tree. whatever comes my way, when well rooted, I bend and don't break.

more than 50 years of journeys taken

i usually listen to beats or psy-trance while i concentrate on getting the 'light-years' of distance from my location (in my inner visions) up to that tiny point-of-light...

finally, what seems 15 minutes at a 'warp-speed velocity' i clearly am floating at the now rather large, planet sized portal, or illuminated porthole which moments ago was only a pin-point of light at a vast distance away...


eye of Drago, the dragon constellation? IDK ... but 50+ years ago is difficult to recall exact what i was witness to...

the point of light could have been the exit point into Reality and i trans versed a dark tunnel (or actual wormhole)...
~sorta like the Shaman journey to upper or lower worlds, for a knowledge quest...
if you are aware, the tunnel of clay/rock is also peppered with arms of all sorts of creatures trying to grab at the tunnel traveler to hinder his journey~


i go through the round, well lit opening (or pupil-of-eye) into various histories/timelines/locals/worlds/universes

most worlds are forests or oceans or rocky surfaces-landscapes... life forms rare, civilizations only as numerous as a NYC phone book


i sure love to travel thru my personal wormhole or dragon iris to vistas & awesome skylines

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

I have seen it as well. The eye absolutely startled me. Was in a void of total emptiness then out of now-where an enormously big eye looking at me. I remember talking to a woman back then (decades back) from sourth america doing some research on the topic. She wanted my to re-enter that state but I did not feel comfortable about it. Think I had too much ego invested so felt it would backfire on me. Today, I am trying to re-enter with a better state of mind. My watcher seeking rather than wanting if you know what I mean.