Did the RINOS and the left conspire about the desired trajectory of the 2020 election

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: putnam6
Every other election in history a winner was determined before the sun came up on Nov. 4.
Mail in voting achieved the impossible.

It put someone too scared to come out from his basement to campaign for the white house in the white house.

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for example, now any data about vaccinated vs unvaxxed is about that 65/35 ratio as soon as you get over a wide enough swath

Interesting stats....

Dembs are more likely to get the vax...will that influence the vote in 22? In todays political clown world; it might!

originally posted by: putnam6
would love to hear ATS's opinion and comments

Politicians are on one side. We are on the other.

Problem is: The politicians already know this.
The fix is: Getting everyone on our side tuned-in.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
School yourself.
since 1845

Election Day is November 3, 2020.

The election date is set by federal law and has not changed since 1845. Americans select a president and vice president every four years. This regular election schedule has persisted through periods of great uncertainty and upheaval, including the Great Depression, and two World Wars. Historically, unprecedented times have not stopped Americans from voting.

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a reply to: loveguy

I know when Election Day is and I also know that your comment that all previous Election Day results were known the next day is a lie.

a reply to: putnam6

At that point, it's extremely unlikely to overtake an election that way, it would have been a more gradual rise over a long period

Six states coordinated with each other to stop the count, only to resume with fudged inconsistencies.

People had a deadline to cast their mail in ballots, to be received no later than election day.

But as we well know, that is not what occurred.
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originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: dandandat2
The establishment, which is made up of Republicans and Democrats, worked together to remove Trump from the presidency. I wouldn't use the term "conspired" because they did it in the open (and continue too) and their is nothing wrong with their actions from a ethical point of view. No man deserves nor should expect 100% support from his political party all of the time.

Walking away from the deal each side of the establishment got what they wanted. Democrats got a year to push through as much federal legislation as they could before they would lose congress. Establishment Republicans got ride of Trump and the disruption he was causing to their establishment.

Trumps wing of the Republican party was simply not savy enough to survive the battle.

Sounds like a solid assessment to the situation, but open? really? got any links any backup showing this? pretty much none of this was in the "open" if it was it should be easy to find links and articles this isn't ancient history. Where's the article "Pelosi, Romney, and Graham sit down and discuss the election headline? I mean damn we knew when Pelosi went and got her her hair shampooed>

50% or more of this website is dedicated to discussions regarding the political maneuvers of the US political establishment; most of those discussions relate to how the last election was "stolen" from Trump.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: loveguy

I know when Election Day is and I also know that your comment that all previous Election Day results were known the next day is a lie.

I've provided source backing up my claim, you're welcome to practice the same courtesy.

a reply to: loveguy

Your 'source' is what day the election was held in 2020, you've provided nothing that shows all previous results were known the next day.

Maybe start with the 2000 and 1876 elections and tell me what day those were settled. Once you figure those out I can give you a few more.

a reply to: network dude

Right. I put it up to the simple notion that most voters vote according to name and face recognition. Simple as that. I always liken it to the old days in India. A peasant working in the field all day long twenty hours a day, seven days a week, and a pollster comes up to them and asks ''are you going to vote?''

''Dun know, who is running? ''

''Well for one, Indra Gandi''

''GANDI? GANDI? Yes, I'll vote.''

Biden won the nomination because Clinton's face was not on the stage. Michelle Obama's face was not on the stage, nor was Oprah's. It's not that there was nothing to choose from in the rest of the policy differences up there, there was. It was just that the Democrat primary voters could not distinguish between them, hence the candidates were indistinguishable to them.

I gotta go with that Occam's Razor there. Considering the possibility that the Party managers are not as stupid as many find it convenient to believe, I have to think that he would not have been their choice. That is predicated on believing that they are not that dump, which of course begs the question that maybe they are.

Would they deliberately choose a candidate that had such family baggage? That was already demonstrating the loss in focus that old most old people demonstrate? I can't imagine what other ''behind the scenes skullduggery'' might have been their true intent. I just cannot imagine, or don't want to.

originally posted by: loveguy

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: loveguy

I know when Election Day is and I also know that your comment that all previous Election Day results were known the next day is a lie.

I've provided source backing up my claim, you're welcome to practice the same courtesy.

I'll never forget the days of the hanging chad. They were glorious.

www.history.com...

originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: dandandat2
The establishment, which is made up of Republicans and Democrats, worked together to remove Trump from the presidency. I wouldn't use the term "conspired" because they did it in the open (and continue too) and their is nothing wrong with their actions from a ethical point of view. No man deserves nor should expect 100% support from his political party all of the time.

Walking away from the deal each side of the establishment got what they wanted. Democrats got a year to push through as much federal legislation as they could before they would lose congress. Establishment Republicans got ride of Trump and the disruption he was causing to their establishment.

Trumps wing of the Republican party was simply not savy enough to survive the battle.

Sounds like a solid assessment to the situation, but open? really? got any links any backup showing this? pretty much none of this was in the "open" if it was it should be easy to find links and articles this isn't ancient history. Where's the article "Pelosi, Romney, and Graham sit down and discuss the election headline? I mean damn we knew when Pelosi went and got her her hair shampooed>

50% or more of this website is dedicated to discussions regarding the political maneuvers of the US political establishment; most of those discussions relate to how the last election was "stolen" from Trump.

Understood and yes I agree on ATS it's not a secret, but it's not brought up anywhere in the MSM which means those of a different view don't hear squat about even the possibility of this happening.

That said Im considering posing this same question on another site that leans towards the other side and seeing just how far apart we are on something we ATSer's mostly believe VS this other site that probably doesn't.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
lol

How the 1876 Election Tested the Constitution and Effectively Ended Reconstruction

Disputed returns and secret back-room negotiations put Republican Rutherford B. Hayes in the White House—and Democrats back in control of the South.

Back room deals is easier than a do over?

Same 💩 different timeline.

Blacks are still having their voting right usurped by the system...
That's not democracy.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: putnam6
Every other election in history a winner was determined before the sun came up on Nov. 4.
Mail in voting achieved the impossible.

It put someone too scared to come out from his basement to campaign for the white house in the white house.

for example, now any data about vaccinated vs unvaxxed is about that 65/35 ratio as soon as you get over a wide enough swath

Interesting stats....

Dembs are more likely to get the vax...will that influence the vote in 22? In todays political clown world; it might!

Yes Ive read where 91% of the Democrats are vaxxed and only 60% of Republicans, now imagine if news drops the COVID vaccines are harmful. Would they conspire to suppress this info?

a reply to: putnam6

If anyone elected Biden to stop the crazy they need to be admitted to an inpatient psych hospital for observation. It would be like putting a serial killer as chief of police with full immunity from any crimes they committed to stop the killing.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: putnam6
Every other election in history a winner was determined before the sun came up on Nov. 4.
Mail in voting achieved the impossible.

It put someone too scared to come out from his basement to campaign for the white house in the white house.

for example, now any data about vaccinated vs unvaxxed is about that 65/35 ratio as soon as you get over a wide enough swath

Interesting stats....

Dembs are more likely to get the vax...will that influence the vote in 22? In todays political clown world; it might!

Yes Ive read where 91% of the Democrats are vaxxed and only 60% of Republicans, now imagine if news drops the COVID vaccines are harmful. Would they conspire to suppress this info?

Well, that'd mean that fewer Democrats were able to vote because they'd be harmed by/taken out by the vaccine, right? And those who refuse the vaccine and opted to catch the disease to obtain "natural immunity" were out-surviving the Democrats, right?

I don't think that plan's gonna work.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: putnam6
Every other election in history a winner was determined before the sun came up on Nov. 4.
Mail in voting achieved the impossible.

It put someone too scared to come out from his basement to campaign for the white house in the white house.

for example, now any data about vaccinated vs unvaxxed is about that 65/35 ratio as soon as you get over a wide enough swath

Interesting stats....

Dembs are more likely to get the vax...will that influence the vote in 22? In todays political clown world; it might!

Yes Ive read where 91% of the Democrats are vaxxed and only 60% of Republicans, now imagine if news drops the COVID vaccines are harmful. Would they conspire to suppress this info?

Well, that'd mean that fewer Democrats were able to vote because they'd be harmed by/taken out by the vaccine, right? And those who refuse the vaccine and opted to catch the disease to obtain "natural immunity" were out-surviving the Democrats, right?

I don't think that plan's gonna work.

Where did I say it was a plan?

I said if the news drops the COVID vaccines are harmful. Would they conspire to suppress this info?

Im would pose that if they conspired about the election they would likely conspire to keep that information suppressed, After all if this is the case and the public gets it in their minds our leaders knew, the elections for all incumbents will be even more difficult.

originally posted by: loveguy
Back room deals is easier than a do over?

Not relevant. What is relevant was that you were incorrect about your claim.

a reply to: putnam6

The article below can not be posted enough. While the Democrats claim in this article that there were Republicans involved in putting this action plan together, it sounded very minimal. The egos of these fools are astounding when you read the article. Funny how they even mention the mass Zoom call that went out around the same time that the battle ground states decided to stop counting ballots for the night. They gave themselves away here and I hope it gets used against them some day.

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

time.com...

a reply to: Deetermined

Thankyou for resurfacing the tell-all article: time.com...

It's perfect for everyone who wants a high-level overview of what was done to get Joe Biden into the White House.

RINOS are still working to protect the STEAL they helped to orchestrate in Nov 2020.

Arizona RINO Walter Blackman: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

I'm sure he's getting an earful this week!