Joe. Wants. War. (More accurate title: Joe. Needs. War.)

a reply to: rickymouse

Not evil Dems, then?

originally posted by: incoserv
ETA: I also agree with the assessment that the Russian buildup is likely Russia protecting Ukraine and defending its own sovereignty.

Bad ju-ju over there. The Biden family interests in Ukraine are substantial and Ukraine is gonna have to pay one way or the other.

Never forget Putin needs a land bridge to get his oil and gas (especially gas) into the heart of Europe. The Dims don't want him to have that.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

What threat does Putin pose?

Any evidence that there is a threat to the UK or USA or the EU?

Ukraine’s Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov told parliament Friday that the total number of Russian troops near Ukraine — about 130,000 — is comparable to Moscow’s military buildup in the spring of 2021, when Moscow eventually pulled its forces back after massive military exercises.

“We haven’t observed any events or actions of military character that significantly differ from what was going on last spring,” with the exception of the deployment to Belarus, Reznikov said.

So it seems Putin is yanking someone's chain, doing the usual spring training and stir-up the west to waste millions running around like chickens..

however

Lavrov noted that the U.S. suggested the two sides could talk about limits on the deployment of intermediate-range missiles, restrictions on military drills and rules to prevent accidents between warships and aircraft. He said that Russia proposed discussing those issues years ago — but Washington and its allies never took them up on it until now.

it's getting the discussion going again. Which is a good thing isn't it?

Guess you missed the Novichok thing too?

Didn't miss it at all, just don't think you go to war in a situation that is unwinnable unless you go completely full force and NATO isn't going to do that. So it has no point, Ukraine will be what it is a cesspool of corruption and graft a long with perhaps the killing of many innocent people. Much more than these 3, as for your Russian agent problem, are you gonna tell me there aren't UK agents in Russia and Ukraine? Hell we know from the Steele dossiers the UK agents deeks around in the US too, wonder if we should go to war over that.


Former Russian agent Sergei Skripal, his daughter Yulia and a police officer, Nick Bailey, were exposed to the substance in 2018.

Dawn Sturgess died after finding a perfume bottle with it in months later.

Security sources now believe a senior Russian agent, Denis Sergeev, was the on-the-ground commander.

Sounds like a perfectly legit reason to send troops, money, and weapons, that will likely end up on the black market.

Another gross overreaction in a few years full of governmental overreactions

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

What threat does Putin pose?

Any evidence that there is a threat to the UK or USA or the EU?

Ukraine’s Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov told parliament Friday that the total number of Russian troops near Ukraine — about 130,000 — is comparable to Moscow’s military buildup in the spring of 2021, when Moscow eventually pulled its forces back after massive military exercises.

“We haven’t observed any events or actions of military character that significantly differ from what was going on last spring,” with the exception of the deployment to Belarus, Reznikov said.

So it seems Putin is yanking someone's chain, doing the usual spring training and stir-up the west to waste millions running around like chickens..

however

Lavrov noted that the U.S. suggested the two sides could talk about limits on the deployment of intermediate-range missiles, restrictions on military drills and rules to prevent accidents between warships and aircraft. He said that Russia proposed discussing those issues years ago — but Washington and its allies never took them up on it until now.

it's getting the discussion going again. Which is a good thing isn't it?

Guess you missed the Novichok thing too?

Didn't miss it at all, just don't think you go to war in a situation that is unwinnable unless you go completely full force and NATO isn't going to do that. [...]

We didn't go to war over Salisbury.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

What threat does Putin pose?

Any evidence that there is a threat to the UK or USA or the EU?

Ukraine’s Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov told parliament Friday that the total number of Russian troops near Ukraine — about 130,000 — is comparable to Moscow’s military buildup in the spring of 2021, when Moscow eventually pulled its forces back after massive military exercises.

“We haven’t observed any events or actions of military character that significantly differ from what was going on last spring,” with the exception of the deployment to Belarus, Reznikov said.

So it seems Putin is yanking someone's chain, doing the usual spring training and stir-up the west to waste millions running around like chickens..

however

Lavrov noted that the U.S. suggested the two sides could talk about limits on the deployment of intermediate-range missiles, restrictions on military drills and rules to prevent accidents between warships and aircraft. He said that Russia proposed discussing those issues years ago — but Washington and its allies never took them up on it until now.

it's getting the discussion going again. Which is a good thing isn't it?

Guess you missed the Novichok thing too?

Didn't miss it at all, just don't think you go to war in a situation that is unwinnable unless you go completely full force and NATO isn't going to do that. So it has no point, Ukraine will be what it is a cesspool of corruption and graft a long with perhaps the killing of many innocent people. Much more than these 3, as for your Russian agent problem, are you gonna tell me there aren't UK agents in Russia and Ukraine? Hell we know from the Steele dossiers the UK agents deeks around in the US too, wonder if we should go to war over that.


Former Russian agent Sergei Skripal, his daughter Yulia and a police officer, Nick Bailey, were exposed to the substance in 2018.

Dawn Sturgess died after finding a perfume bottle with it in months later.

Security sources now believe a senior Russian agent, Denis Sergeev, was the on-the-ground commander.

Sounds like a perfectly legit reason to send troops, money, and weapons, that will likely end up on the black market.

Another gross overreaction in a few years full of governmental overreactions

We didn't go to war over Salisbury.

You brought it up like it scary Putin was gonna poison you or something... NATO won't go full scale we will just screw around send troops here and there and get caught in a meat-grinding money pit, and in the end, Russia will get what parts of Ukraine it wants. That's if they even invade or not which as has been mentioned is not a certainty at all,

Don't ever go to war without a complete plan to win that damn thing... NATO doesn't the US doesn't the UK doesn't Germany sounds extremely reluctant. Let's let France, Belgium, and Italy decide are they rattling their sabers with ya

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

ah classic flip to another subject. There is no evidence it was Putin, so like the rest of the jury in the Court of public opinion you follow the guilty by newspaper until proven innocent dogma.

Perhaps you want to be found guilty for the ones you paid for tax paid for MURDERS.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
I thought most here wanted war. Civil war. Well, you're probably going to get one. Keep supporting Putin and you might even get the draft back.

Let's have another Vietnam. And half of the Americans, the Conservatives will be rooting for the murderer Putin


Is Tucker Carlson displaying his Russian flag yet?

Simple post search shows you as primary member talking about "civil war" of late.

As for the rest of your post, no F'n idea what you're talking about.

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a reply to: incoserv

I'll be 100% honest up front.

I'm going to be pissed if we do Cross Swords with Russia finally , All my time in the Military and I can tell you that we did some day dreaming about a straight up fight with Russia.

Most of our training was based on fighting unconventional forces , but actually getting in a Fight with Conventional Russian forces ! Damn it son !!

I guarantee you that Ranger Battalion is F*cking pumped and ready to go ! I'm sure the Marine Infantry is lighting a Fire as well !

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rickymouse


Remind me, who started the War on Terror and the whole Afghan thing?

Not us.

Some people did some things.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: rickymouse


Remind me, who started the War on Terror and the whole Afghan thing?

Read a History book or 2 or 3 and then you will recall Russia fighting a War with Afghanistan all through the 80's and early 90's .

But yeah America the evil empire and all that right ?

The economy is on the brink of going completely tits up. Years of easy money printing by the fed has led to banks and hedge funds managers gambling away retirement funds and blowing up the economy. This is 2008 on steroids, everything is a bubble. The Biden admin is looking to distract from what’s about to transpire. Who cares if the men and women in the armed forces are all battle fatigues and suffering mentally. We want more damn it.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: incoserv

I'll be 100% honest up front.

I'm going to be pissed if we do Cross Swords with Russia finally , All my time in the Military and I can tell you that we did some day dreaming about a straight up fight with Russia.

Most of our training was based on fighting unconventional forces , but actually getting in a Fight with Conventional Russian forces ! Damn it son !!

I guarantee you that Ranger Battalion is F*cking pumped and ready to go ! I'm sure the Marine Infantry is lighting a Fire as well !

This is one of the most ignorant posts I’ve read in a long time.


War is the absolute last resort. In this case it’s so not necessary.

a reply to: incoserv

It has been in the works for some time.. It was Hillary's dream to the point she begged Obama to start it. Don't forget that fact, people who voted Trump did Not want war with Russia. That was a huge part in voting for him, something the dumb arse democrats missed by a mile, when wondering why she lost.

Because all she did was war speak Russia. While licking the Chinese arse as she planned more selloffs.. now fast forward, which country posed the bigger threat.. china, who do they want war with? Russia.

Millions die over the "china virus" we do nothing.
Russia protects their borders from a "Mexico" in a free for all.. (something we have yet to do). And the drums of war start beating.. you have to be stupid not to see what's going on.

a reply to: 38181

Ignorance at its finest agreed. War with Russia can easily be a game over for the entire world. They have weapons that will kill everything on the planet 3 times over, that is airborne. Only a fool demands war against an enemy like that.

Those without that respect to the enemy die.. people think Vietnam was a cluster, a war with Russia will cost the lives of everyone.. which appears to be the goal since not enough people died to the virus..

It's sad that even North Korea recognized this and called a nuclear dismantle meeting.. because of the damages a war like this could cause the planet

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Watch the Rambo movie him fighting in Afghanistan. The Russians gave up.

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: Smigg

They desperately need a distraction from the fecal feature dumpster fire that this administration is.

This has been the goal for some time now, even before Trump took office.

Right.

That's why DJT got us involved in all those new wars.

Yeah?

It isn't Biden who wants war he's just a puppet for the people who do, the same people who rigged your election, they basically kicked Trump out of office, these people have been around a very long time, Way way before Trump

Wrong it is Joe Trump was leaving the middle east. Joe has undone that effort. Its been low key but Joe has sent people back into Syria

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originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: incoserv

It has been in the works for some time.. It was Hillary's dream to the point she begged Obama to start it. Don't forget that fact, people who voted Trump did Not want war with Russia. ...

Interesting anecdote. I have friends in northern Mongolia. Just a few months before Trump was elected, we received an email from one of them saying how sorry she was that there was about to be a war between the US and Russia. The talk was strong in that region (just hop-skip across the border) on impending conflict.