UK & IRL relax covid restrictions after MAJOR complaint submitted to International Criminal Court

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: TheAiIsLying

It's like you are all incapable of simple English.

In his reply, Bourla mentioned future cancer drugs, but then also stated that mRNA vaccines could be used with people who are "born with a mistake in their DNA."

Yah, that's gene therapy, it's not the covid vaccine, it's a potential future product.

Speaking of simple english, read my post again. I actually addressed this argument because I knew it would be used

Like I said, they intend to use the exact same technology. How is it gene therapy later but not now?

I notice you didn't address the Moderna bit either.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I have given you the fact, source, and question multiple times.

Maybe I need to explain it again...

Your T cells are going to spike after you get vaccinated. Look it up.

Vaccines do not give you the nutrients needed to produce T cells. Falsify that if you can.

If you do not change the nutrients you consume, you get vaccinated, and your T cells spike, you must know, your T cells are going to come crashing down, after spiking, right? And you must know, right after that traumatic experience, you are going to be in worse shape than before that traumatic experience, right?

a reply to: TheAiIsLying

In the same way viral vector can be gene therapy or not. If you use mRNA with the intention to alter DNA and DNA gets altered that is gene therapy. If you don't, and nothing is altered, it's not.

Why would I say the same thing twice? Moderna.

Moderna is interested in new opportunities

Future products, not the covid vaccine.

You literally posted two sources saying they want to find out how to use mRNA to do gene editing in the future, and then posted the vaccine is gene editing. Like I said, basic English.

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I have given you the fact, source, and question multiple times.

Actually you haven't. You made stuff up, lied, posed ridiculous hypotheticals, and flat out contradicted yourself.

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

The vaccine does not give you more T cells.

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

There is a spike in T cells. An abundance of sources can confirm that. That can't last. What goes up must come down.

So which is it, do you get a spike in T cells, or do you not get more T cells?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Please don't be manipulative. It betrays the stupidity of your position.

Your body produces T cells from the nutrients you consume.

When you get infected and/or injected your body will start producing excessive amounts of T cells to attack the viral invader.

If you don't increase the amount of nutrients which you need to make T cells, you're very likely to wind up with less T cells after the infection and/or injection than before it, because of the excessive amount your body needed to produce to fight off the infection and/or injection.

Young children are less likely to deplete their T cells than the elderly.

If T cells in a study done in 2020 on patients were still running higher than normal 6 months after vaccination, that means the infection had not been cleared out yet.

a reply to: InachMarbank

Your words. Not mine.

Last time, facts, source, question. If you can't do that don't bother replying.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

It has been provided. Clearly. Multiple times. If you don't want to accept it, that's your bad, not mine.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: TheAiIsLying

In the same way viral vector can be gene therapy or not. If you use mRNA with the intention to alter DNA and DNA gets altered that is gene therapy. If you don't, and nothing is altered, it's not.

Why would I say the same thing twice? Moderna.

Moderna is interested in new opportunities

Future products, not the covid vaccine.

You literally posted two sources saying they want to find out how to use mRNA to do gene editing in the future, and then posted the vaccine is gene editing. Like I said, basic English.

Human gene therapy seeks to modify or manipulate the expression of a gene or to alter the biological properties of living cells for therapeutic use 1.

Gene therapy is a technique that modifies a person’s genes to treat or cure disease. Gene therapies can work by several mechanisms:

Replacing a disease-causing gene with a healthy copy of the gene
Inactivating a disease-causing gene that is not functioning properly
Introducing a new or modified gene into the body to help treat a disease
Gene therapy products are being studied to treat diseases including cancer, genetic diseases, and infectious diseases.

www.fda.gov...

Check the link. It's even got nice diagrams and mentions lipid nanoparticles and virus vectors. How do the jabs work again?

They literally changed the definition of a vaccine to get these approved. That gentle spring rain you are feeling isn't rain.

a reply to: TheAiIsLying

Human gene therapy seeks to modify or manipulate the expression of a gene or to alter the biological properties of living cells for therapeutic use 1.

No covid vaccine does any of that. What gene is modified or manipulated?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: TheAiIsLying

Human gene therapy seeks to modify or manipulate the expression of a gene or to alter the biological properties of living cells for therapeutic use 1.

No covid vaccine does any of that. What gene is modified or manipulated?

or to alter the biological properties of living cells for therapeutic use

It's right there in the sentence you just quoted! Moderna and Pfizer use nano lipids to insert mRNA into your cells programming them to express synthetic spike proteins on their surface. Astra Zenica uses an adeno virus to achieve the same thing. Does that not qualify as altering the biological properties of a living cell?

I highly recommend you also click the link to the pdf at the bottom of the FDA definition. It covers all the adverse effects we are seeing.

If you can't be convinced by the CEOs of Moderna and Pfizer or the FDA then there's really not much more I can add.

Good luck to you on your jab journey.

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I have given you the fact, source, and question multiple times.

Maybe I need to explain it again...

Your T cells are going to spike after you get vaccinated. Look it up.

Vaccines do not give you the nutrients needed to produce T cells. Falsify that if you can.

If you do not change the nutrients you consume, you get vaccinated, and your T cells spike, you must know, your T cells are going to come crashing down, after spiking, right? And you must know, right after that traumatic experience, you are going to be in worse shape than before that traumatic experience, right?

Except that your body doesn't consider this to be a traumatic experience, and the amount of resources that are used can easily be replenished through simple acts such as eating and drinking.

There is no "crash" after the spike. You're body produces them in large quantities in response to the vax and as the vax degrades within your body as it naturally does your body slowly stops producing new ones. They then slowly degrade and are cleaned out by your body as the apparent virus threat is gone.

If what you were describing was true then pretty much every vax would have the same effect, as would every real virus.

a reply to: TheAiIsLying

Does that not qualify as altering the biological properties of a living cell?

No, because the properties of the cell remain the same. You're issuing it an instruction not adding, removing, or altering its code. It's essentially the same cell before and after.

a reply to: InachMarbank

I missed the original exchange, please provide a link to where you posted the sources so that I can see them. I have no idea which thread they are in.

originally posted by: TheAiIsLying
or to alter the biological properties of living cells for therapeutic use

What biological property is altered? The cells are not being programmed. RNA enters the cell, it is used up, destroyed, and the cell is unchanged. All they are doing is using the machinery of the cell to create the spike protein, they are not changing anything.

The CEOs are talking about future products, neither of them talked about the covid vaccine. You just keep repeating the same lie over and over hoping somehow it becomes true.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

COVID 19 vaccines, adenovirus and/or mrna, are a traumatic experience to your body.

Actually your body does not store zinc. And most elderly people are deficient in zinc.

SARS COV2 is much stickier than the common cold. The evidence which I cited, which you looked up earlier in the thread, indicates the infection from mrna vaccines is still in your body 6 months after being shot.

If you're vaxxed, and you don't believe that traumatized you, you must be very insensitive. Or maybe you're a child whose thymus is still huge.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

If you're interested, go back and read it.

Please use your brain. I'm trying to help you out. Nobody is going to figure out your health for you.

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a reply to: puzzled2

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a reply to: puzzled2

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