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originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude
True, but are we thinking the 296% increase in cancer is only happening in the military? If not then we would see huge increases in regular hospitals along with the other thread stating 1 out of 33 are hospitalized or dead due to the Vax.
Now if it's only happening among the military why do you think that is? Something specifically given to them only?
Anecdotally I did ask my Aunt(In a different state) after reading this if she noticed more people getting chemo, etc at the VA hospital where she goes for treatment. Her cancer appeared before vaccinations. She stated she has not noticed an increase in people when she's been in for treatment and various related surgery in the past year. She has been triple vaxxed and her cancer is now in remission.
the reason this stands out as opposed to the VARES reporting is the inability to fudge the numbers. Folks on your side seem to have issues with any data that doesn't fit the narrative. This data is solid. I'd think rather than trying to explain it away, you might want to dig into it a bit and see if there is anything to it. Pretending it's not happening won't change anything. And since "your side" is the side that can't get enough jabs, you might want to know if the jabs are not as wonderful as you continue to claim. I'm not worried, I didn't get one. I got covid quite early and am satisfied with my antibodies.
For you and all the other jabbers who can't get enough juice, I hope this is not related to the vaccine. Cancer is an awful thing, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
Has anyone verified if these numbers are remotely accurate?
originally posted by: Arizona2
originally posted by: frogs453
There seems to be some dissonance here at ATS. We have a 296% increase in cancer in one year. Another post states 1 out of 33 people will have a severe reaction or die from the Vax.
Yet, in any post with reports of hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid patients the very same people post, "my wife works in a hospital, they are empty". "I work with hospitals and they tell me they are empty." " Hospitals are not overwhelmed!"
So, where are all of the cancer patients going for treatment? Where are the people who are suffering and dying from the Vax being treated as ATS insists hospitals are not seeing an influx of people?
If you have that many people with cancer and that many people in the hospital with severe reactions or death, where are they? With the total of 150 doses(3 each 50 people) in my family alone, where is our cancer and reactions and death? It's been over a year now? Still only know of long term problems and death among those I know that were unvaccinated and had covid.
You are aware that military members with cancer just don't go down the street to the nearest ER, right? This isn't the gotcha moment that you thought it was.
originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
originally posted by: Arizona2
originally posted by: frogs453
There seems to be some dissonance here at ATS. We have a 296% increase in cancer in one year. Another post states 1 out of 33 people will have a severe reaction or die from the Vax.
Yet, in any post with reports of hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid patients the very same people post, "my wife works in a hospital, they are empty". "I work with hospitals and they tell me they are empty." " Hospitals are not overwhelmed!"
So, where are all of the cancer patients going for treatment? Where are the people who are suffering and dying from the Vax being treated as ATS insists hospitals are not seeing an influx of people?
If you have that many people with cancer and that many people in the hospital with severe reactions or death, where are they? With the total of 150 doses(3 each 50 people) in my family alone, where is our cancer and reactions and death? It's been over a year now? Still only know of long term problems and death among those I know that were unvaccinated and had covid.
You are aware that military members with cancer just don't go down the street to the nearest ER, right? This isn't the gotcha moment that you thought it was.
The problem with this is we still should see this uptick in the general public because there are many numbers.
Go out and find the current cancer rate for this year. CDC doesn't have them. Even if it is vaccines causing cancer they will spin it like everything else.
originally posted by: BigfootNZ
So your comparing a 5 year average with a single years value? Why not wait another 4 years and see what the new 5 year average is... some of those years between 2016 and 2020 could well have been (and would have been) higher than the average as well as lower.
Also if its the vaxx wheres the same increases youd expect to see in the civilian population?.. wheres the huge influx of sudden cancer diagnosis in the general vaxxed population? If the vaxx is causing the cancers (question which type/s is it causing? the vaxx cant cause ALL types of cancers after all) then for a cancer to get to a stage where its caused by the vaxx then found within that same year that has to be one hell of a malignant beast and those sorts of things dont go unnoticed for long.