Rush Hour Horror In West London Woman Stabbed To Death And Man Killed By Vehicle

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Fact of the matter is that the majority of the people on this island nether wish nor require firearms to be available in the same to similar manner they are in other nations.

Its something the majority of the population actually agree on here in the UK.

Correct me if I'm wrong but do the Gangs and Criminals in the UK not carry guns ?

If you think that the majority of people here are criminals or gang members then, yes, of course you are wrong.

? That's not what I'm insinuating at all mate , I'm just asking do the the Gangs and Criminals Carry guns in the UK . ?

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

The ones that want to get stopped by police and go to gaol for 5 years do.

The rest of them only go near such weapons when they need to lay their paws on such.

Easily available to purchase in certain pubs for a variety of different prices depending on type, and if its been used recently or not, if that's what you are asking.

At least that how it is in Glasgow as unfortunate as the case may be gun crime just like knife crime is on the rise.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Fact of the matter is that the majority of the people on this island nether wish nor require firearms to be available in the same to similar manner they are in other nations.

Its something the majority of the population actually agree on here in the UK.

Correct me if I'm wrong but do the Gangs and Criminals in the UK not carry guns ?

If you think that the majority of people here are criminals or gang members then, yes, of course you are wrong.

? That's not what I'm insinuating at all mate , I'm just asking do the the Gangs and Criminals Carry guns in the UK . ?

Some do, some don't. Obviously?

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Fact of the matter is that the majority of the people on this island nether wish nor require firearms to be available in the same to similar manner they are in other nations.

Its something the majority of the population actually agree on here in the UK.

Correct me if I'm wrong but do the Gangs and Criminals in the UK not carry guns ?

It's a bit more complicated than that.
They probably don't routinely carry them around. In some cases there will be one gun which may be made available at certain times, for a fee, which could be used for a "hit" then returned to the owner. Just one method that I've heard of and I'm no expert.

On the other hand altogether, my Dad has been a member of a small bore rifle association for as long as I can remember and, as long as all legal requirements are met , has had various guns and ammo securely kept and used without problems.

It's not quite as cut and dried as some people might suppose.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Fact of the matter is that the majority of the people on this island nether wish nor require firearms to be available in the same to similar manner they are in other nations.

Its something the majority of the population actually agree on here in the UK.

Correct me if I'm wrong but do the Gangs and Criminals in the UK not carry guns ?

If you think that the majority of people here are criminals or gang members then, yes, of course you are wrong.

? That's not what I'm insinuating at all mate , I'm just asking do the the Gangs and Criminals Carry guns in the UK . ?

Some do, some don't. Obviously?

I see , I suppose I would feel rather vulnerable in the UK knowing that the Only people who have guns are Gangs and only some of the Police carry guns .

I think you know that was my point in the first place but I figured I would say it anyways.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Fact of the matter is that the majority of the people on this island nether wish nor require firearms to be available in the same to similar manner they are in other nations.

Its something the majority of the population actually agree on here in the UK.

Correct me if I'm wrong but do the Gangs and Criminals in the UK not carry guns ?

If you think that the majority of people here are criminals or gang members then, yes, of course you are wrong.

? That's not what I'm insinuating at all mate , I'm just asking do the the Gangs and Criminals Carry guns in the UK . ?

Some do, some don't. Obviously?

I see , I suppose I would feel rather vulnerable in the UK knowing that the Only people who have guns are Gangs and only some of the Police carry guns .

I think you know that was my point in the first place but I figured I would say it anyways.

The gangs mostly target their own kind.

Us Brits are not particularly worried about getting shot by gangs.

Probably more likely to get struck by lightning.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Fact of the matter is that the majority of the people on this island nether wish nor require firearms to be available in the same to similar manner they are in other nations.

Its something the majority of the population actually agree on here in the UK.

Correct me if I'm wrong but do the Gangs and Criminals in the UK not carry guns ?

Not really, carrying or using them pretty much guarantees the National Crime Agency and firearms officers will take down a gang/criminal network if they're ever brandished/used. It's still a very rare occurence and a lot of specialist police resources are dedicated to firearms and gangs - hammers, knives and machettes are what 99% use as it attracts less attention.

Guns aren't illegal in the UK. There's far more firearms in the tiny farming village I live in than any of the major cities around here, though gang on gang shootings have risen a bit in recent years.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

They people, county lines type muppets, are generally more of a danger to themselves than to the majority of the public although they do target vulnerable members of society for there own sick purpose.

Put it this way asabuvsobelow, go outside the cities and most farmers will have a shotgun.

The penalties for being caught with an unregistered firearm are however severe, even more so if you have a record which most of these gang members do.

Fact is this nation is relatively safe with no need for anything but certain Police units to posses firearms to uphold the law of the land.

Put it this way try waving a tattie gun in the park and an armed response unit with dogs are apt to be there inside 5-10 minutes in our inner cities 9 times out of 10.

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Fact of the matter is that the majority of the people on this island nether wish nor require firearms to be available in the same to similar manner they are in other nations.

Its something the majority of the population actually agree on here in the UK.

Correct me if I'm wrong but do the Gangs and Criminals in the UK not carry guns ?

Guns aren't illegal in the UK. There's far more firearms in the tiny farming village I live in than any of the major cities around here, though gang on gang shootings have risen a bit in recent years.

Within walking distance of my house there's several farms, a regular clay pigeon shoot, a place for archery and air rifle shooting and a local chap who can often be seen carrying a rifle while walking the lanes. I'm not sure of his correct title but he's sort of a pest control guy.

I worry more about drilling through a finger or dropping a hammer on my toe while pottering around in the garage.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: TrollMagnet

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TrollMagnet

Fact of the matter is that the majority of the people on this island nether wish nor require firearms to be available in the same to similar manner they are in other nations.

Its something the majority of the population actually agree on here in the UK.

Thats because you have no choice. You are ruled over.

Here we go, again.......Bored now.

Its the exact same mentality as people who were tricked into taking the shot, realized its a bad idea, but keep telling people its a good idea and to get the shot for them and their kids.

Think about it. Why else would you argue you should not be able to have a firearm when the criminals are stabbing random people? The only people who are smart that I have seen think that way are big enough to take care of themselves. Think like an old person. Firearms empower the weak to defend themselves more than they empower criminals who are already killing your citizens, because you could kill the elderly with a stick most of the time and take whatever you want from them the same as a baby. If you are walking down the street with a 4 person family with young kids and someone attacks with a knife, you cant run away.

You think just because nothing bad has happened to you, everyone should do what you did, and the people that die from violent crime are not statistically significant.

That's the same argument as people triple vaxxed with no bad side effects saying everyone should get triple vaxxed. Unarming the people who fallow the law empower the people who dont more than it saves random people from guns.

You are ruled over much more than us Americans with our fake democracy.

a reply to: TrollMagnet

Now its about the vaccine.

You lot really need some new material to shoot the breeze.

The grass is always greener TrollMagnet, something to consider.

We don't want Guns in the same manner as the USA.

Its simply not that hard to get ones head around the concept.

a reply to: andy06shake

Those whataboutisms have no power with me. You seem to have have no logical argument, but I understand it is more comfortable and less stressful to convince yourself you are better off. Just like you can't un-inject someone with the vax, so they just accept their fate since it cannot be corrected.

My vax analogy is pertinent to the conversation, your deflection is just deflection.

originally posted by: andy06shake

A woman has been stabbed to death and a man killed after being hit by a vehicle in West London.

Police have launched an "urgent investigation" after being called out to Maida Vale about 9am on Monday.

Ambulance crews and firefighters were also sent to reports of a stabbing, and when they arrived they found a man had been hit by a vehicle.

Emergency workers managed to free him but both victims were pronounced dead at the scene.

Rush hour horror in West London: Woman stabbed to death and man killed by vehicle

R.I.P

Not much information available yet.

Ambulances and other emergency services in attendance.

Will update as more becomes available.

Please stop posting this! You implied it only matters if it's gun violence.

a reply to: TrollMagnet

Thread is not even about guns TrollMagnet or vaccines for that matter.

And we don't want guns in the same manner as the USA.

No ""whataboutisms"" about that fact.

We are not better off TrollMagnet, just slightly less armed to the teeth.

Anyhoo the poor woman was not stabbed over vaccines, as to a persons fate, if you ask me to a certain extent you make your own fate in this world but some things happen that you cannot change.

Your vax analogy is simply paranoid but if it makes you feel better you project away.

a reply to: Madviking

Please stop telling others what to do coz it simply does not fly. LoL

No guns involved here just blades and cars or so it seems.

You really seem fascinated by the things, your rifle must be spotless.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Madviking

Please stop telling others what to do coz it simply does not fly. LoL

No guns involved here just blades and cars or so it seems.

You really seem fascinated by the things, your rifle must be spotless.

Don't worry, they took your guns and now i'm sure that ONE day they'll get those knife bans functioning properly too:

UK Knife Restrictions

Oye! You got a license for that there kitchen knife?

Knive-Rights in Britain

Besides illegal guns, British criminals also use edged weapons, which have been a favorite tool for mayhem since the dawn of civilization.

Having failed to disarm criminals with gun controls that they defy, British politicians are now turning their attention to implementing something new and different: knife control. Because criminals will be much more respectful of knife laws than of those targeted at firearms, I guess.

"No excuses: there is never a reason to carry a knife. Anyone who does will be caught, and they will feel the full force of the law," London's Mayor Sadiq Khan tweeted on April 8.

Not to be outdone, his predecessor, Boris Johnson, currently Foreign Secretary, called for increased use of stop-and-search powers by police. "You have got to stop them, you have got to search them and you have got to take the knives out of their possession."

a reply to: Madviking

Im not worried nor require weapons for protection, that's you projecting again.

Who's "they"?

Ive not even got a TV licence.

Plenty of kitchen knifes all the same.

Guess the FB Polis will be coming for those next.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Madviking

Im not worried nor require weapons for protection, that's you projecting again.

Who's "they"?

Ive not even got a TV licence.

Plenty of kitchen knifes all the same.

Guess the FB Polis will be coming for those next.

Yes, because we all know that no one can ever discuss any issue unless it affects them personally, or they are full of fear. Right...

Um, the articles cite the British authories.. You know, if you read the links.

a reply to: Madviking

Say what now? LoL

Its not hard to get knifes over here Madviking.

The knives in question are really dangerous with kids carrying them for sport, said sport being killing or maiming one another, you get that right?

British "authorities" will give you six months to a year if you are caught with these type of weapons on your person for no good reason, as they should in my book, or do you disagree?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Madviking

Say what now? LoL

Its not hard to get knifes over here Madviking.

The knives in question are really dangerous with kids carrying them for sport, said sport being killing or maiming one another, you get that right?

British "authorities" will give you six months to a year if you are caught with these type of weapons on your person for no good reason, as they should in my book, or do you disagree?

I don't understand, why isn't common sense knife control working there? Shouldn't the criminals just listen to good ol' Khan and Johnson and stop using these knives?