Union Pacific calls for 'Strong Deterrence' vs Train Robbers

What's wrong with RR security. Put the onus on the corporations that run them. Increase their security. It's not like all those store owners who have the smash and grab going on, those are open to the public. But railroad cars?? Strong cars made of iron or what ever. Only one way into the boxes, by the door. How about better locking devices. Stronger locks and chains. How about security guards. How about not just letting them sit out there on a rail in a space that the public can access.

I mean come on Union Pacific, spend some of your monopolistic profit and upgrade to the 21st century.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Only one way into the boxes, by the door. How about better locking devices. Stronger locks and chains.

They're typically only custom's seals.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yeah, that's what I"m on about.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Maybe the RR companies are in on the master chaos plan !!!

Seems all the smart ass Intelligencia are more wrong than right for all the "correct" reasons 😀

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Yeah, that's what I"m on about.

You going to have separate locks and keys for every container? Or a master key that can be knocked off? If the former who manages the thousands upon thousands of keys? If the latter you can just dupe a master.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

depleted uranium locks and seals,heat treated to withstand 10 ,000 degrees celcius perhaps?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Only one way into the boxes, by the door. How about better locking devices. Stronger locks and chains.

They're typically only custom's seals.

Breaking the customs seal would make that a federal offense. Too bad our federal judicial system can't be bothered enforcing existing laws.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I read an article a week or so before Christmas somewhere that said they had actually escalated to reading the bill of laden posted on each car. So, among thieves there may be "readers" and "those children who weren't left behind" so it is possible one group has a strategy to identify the contents prior to working on stealing them while the other group could care less as long as there is something in the cars when they open one.

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
Breaking the customs seal would make that a federal offense. Too bad our federal judicial system can't be bothered enforcing existing laws.

Maybe Union Pacific should give them a call since they haven't.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: yuppa

Doesn't sound like nut talk at all.

but the great train robbery of 2022 doesn't?

originally posted by: network dude
but the great train robbery of 2022 doesn't?

It's stuff, no one is going to set up snipers for stuff. Only loud mouth internet yahoos think that.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
but the great train robbery of 2022 doesn't?

It's stuff, no one is going to set up snipers for stuff. Only loud mouth internet yahoos think that.

sniping looters is a bit over the top, but telling them they are fine to take what they want, just keep it under a grand doesn't seem to be the winning strategy either. perhaps somewhere in the middle, like big boy jail.

a reply to: network dude

I didn't say to do either of those things.

Once they get the containers open and get inside, security just needs to lock them in with high security locks and send them on their way to some town in the middle of no where, Nevada.

About a week in an ice-cold container with no food or water will teach them a lesson they will remember.

Plus they could leave them in a Podunk anti-criminal town where they would get a long term on the chain gang.

a reply to: Nyiah

Sounds like a Die Hard movie with Klaus

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I agree. They are always late to the party

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

They are disrupting The Green New Deal. Crap all over the place

LA District Attorney George Gascon, who is known for being a criminal apologist, has a running feud with UP on why the train thefts spiked.

UP claims that Gascon's lax sentencing policy lets offenders back out on the streets immediately.

Gascon countered that UP's security force isn't doing a very good job.

Either way, whoever is more responsible for this issue, Gascon is known to be the Staypuff Marshmallow Man of criminal prosecution.

Gascon said of rising crime rates: 'The reality is that we go through these cycles, and we go through the cycles for a variety of reasons … In many ways we cannot prosecute our way out of social inequalities, income inequalities, the unhoused, the desperation that we have.'

Gascon is currently embroiled in a dispute over a transgender woman who has pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 10-year-old girl, with the DA saying she could be allowed to serve her sentence under house arrest.

Separately, Gascon is facing another scandal after his own cops went over his head to ask federal prosecutors to charge the alleged killers of an off-duty LAPD officer.

LA County Sheriff Alex Villanueva sought out the federal prosecution for the four gang members accused of killing Officer Fernando Arroyos, 27, on January 10 over fears pursing them through Gascon could lead to lighter sentencing.

Last year, Gascon axed sentencing enhancements - such as membership of a gang - meaning that Arroyos' alleged killers would likely be eligible for parole in 25 years if convicted on state charges.

Gascon previously announced he had decided to no longer pursue sentencing enhancements in cases involving gangs as part of an increasingly controversial prison reform policy aimed at boosting 'equity.'

So punishing criminals is unfair. They had a bad childhood, or didn't get enough hugs, so it's OK to not lock them away for theft or assault or murder.