Union Pacific calls for 'Strong Deterrence' vs Train Robbers

Why is it that all the nutz in Government seem to be in California. That includes the Governor along with several others in the Senate. That trickle down affect also extends up into the Judicial system. Actually, they behave as I would expect one if they were bribed or on the take. Its that simple.

So what goes around comes around and were back to robbing the trains in Los Angeles. Wow so its the 1800's all over again. Its so bad that Union Pacific wrote a terse letter to the resident "whatever"

In a searing letter released in December to L.A.'s District Attorney, the company warned that it could divert routes away from the area to avoid the issue, something Fritz insisted the company didn't want to do — at least not yet.

Union Pacific calls for 'strong deterrence' vs train robbers, won't go 'nuclear'

Piles of looted packages littering Los Angeles' tracks have become a testament to brazen train robberies, but according to Union Pacific Corp. (UNP), the problem is under control. Thieves have been breaking into cargo train containers and stealing countless dollars worth of merchandise that belong to top retailers like Amazon (AMZN), REI, Target (TGT), among others. Images of the pillaging in L.A. have gone viral on social media, and aggravated a relentless supply chain crisis that's delayed shipments for consumers and businesses alike. The shipments are part of the roughly 40% of goods that enter the U.S. via the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach — the largest in the Western Hemisphere — before being put on trains or trucks to be hauled to the rest of the nation.

Disgusting

What's Union Pacific waiting for? If diverting routes away from the area solves the problem and hurts the city, they should just do it. It sounds more like a passive threat that probably hurts UP as much is it would the city. That this looting goes on without retribution is totally mind blowing. I have a feeling this will get a lot worse before it gets better.

originally posted by: Waterglass
So what goes around comes around and were back to robbing the trains in Los Angeles.

Boosting cargo from trains never really went away. The issue is the ones doing it now are slobs.

they loot
shoot

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Well at least the mafia went after bulk cargo. These guys are going for the smalls, from what it sounds many are Amazon shipments affecting 100's of orders. I wonder how they know which boxcars contain those types of shipments?

Possibly Bezos contacted UP.

originally posted by: Waterglass
I wonder how they know which boxcars contain those types of shipments?

Did you read the article? They don't. It's just poke and hope. They toss what they don't want.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That's alot of boxcars but in reading further it seems that quite a few people are involved:

Data from Union Pacific highlights that thefts targeting its trains are up a staggering 160% over the past year in L.A. County, with an average of 90 containers broken into every day over the last three months

n its letter to the D.A., the company faulted the no cash bail policy, which in part is causing the frequency of the thefts.

I sense a possible lawsuit against the County by UP?

Or, possibly riding shotgun with rock salt will be in vogue again?

a reply to: Waterglass

Maybe they should bring back the train detectives and the Pinkerton days.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

That's what I was thinking!

a reply to: Waterglass

I see the Fed's getting involved since railroads fall under the STB.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
Maybe they should bring back the train detectives and the Pinkerton days.

Almost all railroads have their own police forces and have had them since the 1800's for this reason.

SoCal = Democrats = soft on crime / not much help for businesses

but Amazon is a big donor

so they might get something done.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yeah, that's true. But the train detectives (Bulls) and Pinkertons were ruthless and didn't pay much attention to laws.
Many a train robber and hobo got chunked off the train. Just like many a worker got the pointy end of the stick.

If the train robbers of today were treated the way they were back then, 85 to 95% of that sh@@ would stop.

I currently work in the industry but not with UP. It is a talk around the office as the organization I work with has private security in its train yards. The issue with some of these trains from what I am gathering is they are the Ztrains which are very long (sometimes a mile or more) and when they pull in for service some of the cars are outside the yard area so it isn't a very confined space to watch.

The real issue though seems like it has been discussed it is a known problem and nothing is being done by both the County and UP. I would think UP has a vested interest in keeping its products safe for it's customers. While the solution is not necessarily easy or inexpensive it seems like it has a doable solution with some effort.

a reply to: musicismagic


Yes, a few well placed snipers would probably end the problem after a few days.

a reply to: Waterglass

Hire the Rooftop Koreans of the 90s.

Cowboy Play Time would end swiftly.

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: Waterglass

Hire the Rooftop Koreans of the 90s.

Cowboy Play Time would end swiftly.

Or...the federal goverment sends out a mandate,anyone robbing a train forfeits their right to life by waiving their protection under the constitution. doing that makes it legal to shoot them.

a reply to: yuppa

Doesn't sound like nut talk at all.

It is not a “supply chain” issue.

It is a “not made in America” issue.

Identify and address the correct problem and the solution will work better.

Insider click factions want a Federal Mobile Police Force.

Welcome "crisis not going to waste" 🤫🪀